Freddie's Staff searches
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OK Browns ....make your move NOW
Assistant shocker: Gary Kubiak will not be Denver’s offensive coordinator, league sources tell ESPN. After lengthy discussions, Denver and Kubiak had different ideas on staffing and offensive philosophies. Both sides going in different directions.
Too strong a personality. He wouldn't want to be running Kitchens offense...
From Terry Pluto's article... "And they wanted a coach who could work with a very strong front office led by General Manager John Dorsey." Sound like Kubiak? I don't think so...
Too strong a personality. He wouldn't want to be running Kitchens offense...
From Terry Pluto's article... "And they wanted a coach who could work with a very strong front office led by General Manager John Dorsey." Sound like Kubiak? I don't think so...
Kubiak? Strong personality? Wasn't an issue in HOU... more the opposite.
https://deadspin.com/vikings-run-out-of-excuses-to-keep-mike-nuke-the-gays-1831681752
Interesting fella ?
Oh, Lordy...
Of even more interest, however, was the conflicting point on the Vike's not wanting him back vs. his claim that it was his decision.
We have enough of that shit in our daily lives already.
& we've all seen how that works out- you have one all-world corner. Who's he covering? Throw it the other way.
So now they need a Minniefield... it's happened before.
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We also hired Packers O line coach ........
I'm still kind of stunned OL Coach Bob Wylie was fired here in a place where the continuity of progress should be extremely important. Near the end of the season I read an artcile full of Joel Bitonio's warm and fuzzy about the guy on the team's website. He spoke about the job he did getting the line to gel and being the first line coach to tap Robinson's talent that reminded teammates why he was a 2nd pick overall. I also thought our other OT (Hubbard) who struggled earlier in the year improved quite a bit in the 2nd part of the year. I think the offensive line climbed up to an elite rating at the end of the year (which reflects well on Freddie as well as Wylie) IMO.
We had a rookie RB average 5.3 yards per carry. We also had a rookie QB set a record throwing 27 TD passes despite only starting 13 games. Another positive trend that Freddie deserves a great deal of credit for was the reduction in sacks via getting Baker to get the ball out of his hands quicker. That's usually an easier said than done with rookie QBs - especially in Cleveland.
As much as I like Dorsey, I'm still reading and hearing Jimmy continues to prefer more Chiefs than Indians when it comes time to make a decision. That can get very rocky and turbulent as we've seen first hand. I just hope we're careful about all this changing especially after all the progress we finally saw on the offensive side of the ball. I think we were a lot more happy with our running game and passing game than Green Bay fans were in the 2nd half of the season. IMO, you can get too cute with changing to the extent you're changing something that didn't really need to be changed. I always thought Goldie Hawn and Meg Ryan were hotties until they had plastic surgery. After looking to the unnecessary - their faces look deformed. Why? Same thing applies to what I thought we were just building.
All that said, if it was Freddie's input saying Bob Wylie NEEDED to be fired - I'd feel a lot better about it. I'm very glad we kept our WR Coach (Adam Henry) when I look at how much Callaway improved as well as how much more he got out of Perriman than any other NFL WR Coach to date. Not only that, he actually had our WRs blocking people down field not to be confused with Webster Slaughter taking inventory of his groin while the guy he refused to block (Jeremiah Castille) stripped the ball from Byner.
I'm still kind of stunned OL Coach Bob Wylie was fired here in a place where the continuity of progress should be extremely important. Near the end of the season I read an artcile full of Joel Bitonio's warm and fuzzy about the guy on the team's website. He spoke about the job he did getting the line to gel and being the first line coach to tap Robinson's talent that reminded teammates why he was a 2nd pick overall. I also thought our other OT (Hubbard) who struggled earlier in the year improved quite a bit in the 2nd part of the year. I think the offensive line climbed up to an elite rating at the end of the year (which reflects well on Freddie as well as Wylie) IMO.
As much as I like Dorsey, I'm still reading and hearing Jimmy continues to prefer more Chiefs than Indians when it comes time to make a decision.
Agree... except I'm getting a different, bottom-line vibe...
Far from Dorsey being an "Indian", I get the feeling Dorsey is the one not wanting any over-sized personalities around the FO with whom he has to compete.
Further, I've had the feeling that his HC search was akin to Cheney's VP search for "W". That Dorsey's real conclusion was that he was the best choice... but recognized he was not a choice that was available to himself.
Just a couple feelings... but we all have to remember that there was a reason KC sent him packing...
... and it sure wasn't his lack of talent recognition.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Who's out & who's still in?(i think?
) And if anybody sees a wrong? Give us a shout out,thanks...OUT*--DC-Gregg & Blake Williams/Asst.DB coach-Jerod Kruse/Def. quality control-Eric Sanders/OL coach & Asst-Bob Wylie & Mark Hutson/QB coach-Ken Zampese/TE coach-Greg Seamon/ST coaches-Amos Jones & Josh Cribbs..STILL IN*-Sr.Off.Asst.-Al Saunders/Off.Quality control-Brian Braswell/DB's-Dewayne Walker/DL coach & asst.-Clyde Simmons & Ken Delgado/Def. quality control-Scott Kaniecki/WR coach-Adam Henry/RB coach-Ryan Lindley/Asst.ST-Sam Shade..Strength & cond. has a 5 member crew lead by Larry Jackson, but none yet to get booted, pending a new hire interview with a former QB from Oklahoma(name blank)..
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I'm still kind of stunned OL Coach Bob Wylie was fired here in a place where the continuity of progress should be extremely important. Near the end of the season I read an artcile full of Joel Bitonio's warm and fuzzy about the guy on the team's website. He spoke about the job he did getting the line to gel and being the first line coach to tap Robinson's talent that reminded teammates why he was a 2nd pick overall. I also thought our other OT (Hubbard) who struggled earlier in the year improved quite a bit in the 2nd part of the year. I think the offensive line climbed up to an elite rating at the end of the year (which reflects well on Freddie as well as Wylie) IMO.
As much as I like Dorsey, I'm still reading and hearing Jimmy continues to prefer more Chiefs than Indians when it comes time to make a decision.
Agree... except I'm getting a different, bottom-line vibe...
Far from Dorsey being an "Indian", I get the feeling Dorsey is the one not wanting any over-sized personalities around the FO with whom he has to compete.
Further, I've had the feeling that his HC search was akin to Cheney's VP search for "W". That Dorsey's real conclusion was that he was the best choice... but recognized he was not a choice that was available to himself.
Just a couple feelings... but we all have to remember that there was a reason KC sent him packing...
... and it sure wasn't his lack of talent recognition.
Agree... except I'm getting a different, bottom-line vibe...
Far from Dorsey being an "Indian", I get the feeling Dorsey is the one not wanting any over-sized personalities around the FO with whom he has to compete.
Further, I've had the feeling that his HC search was akin to Cheney's VP search for "W". That Dorsey's real conclusion was that he was the best choice... but recognized he was not a choice that was available to himself.
Just a couple feelings... but we all have to remember that there was a reason KC sent him packing...
... and it sure wasn't his lack of talent recognition.
Interesting points! Hopefully he has a lot more smarts than Cheney especially when it comes to the safety of those he hunts with...
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at least we know we'll be staying in a 43 with Wilks
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Let's see if the defense works.
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What's an associate head coach ?
James Campen will become the Cleveland Browns associate head coach/offensive line coach, according to league sources. So the Packers are losing their longest-tenured assistant coach. New Packers coach Matt LaFleur will hire a new line coach. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41052811-4 …
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Kubiak
http://nfltraderumors.co/browns-targeting-gary-kubiak-as-offensive-coordinator/
Does kitchens have history with Kubiak
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Just hired a former Bama guy
BREAKING: Sources indicate former Alabama Director of Player Personnel Jody Wright (
@WrightJody) is headed to the NFL with Freddie Kitchens and the Cleveland Browns. This year Wright was OL coach/Assistant HC at UAB. -
Kubiak
http://nfltraderumors.co/browns-targeting-gary-kubiak-as-offensive-coordinator/
Does kitchens have history with Kubiak
Does kitchens have history with Kubiak
No idea Gip ....but it is all over twitter Browns OC will be a big name .....
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Wilks deal done
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#Browns are expected to hire former#AZCardinals head coach Steve Wilks as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. They are close on a deal and it should be done tomorrow. Big hire for new coach Freddie Kitchens. -
RECAP
HC KITCHENS
OC MONKEN
DC WILKS
RB STUMP
QB LINDLEY ( MOVED FROM RB )
O LINE CAMPEN
WR ADAM HENRY (UNCHANGED)
ST PRIEFER
JODY WRIGHT FORMER BAMA DIRECTOR OF PERSONNEL ARRIVES BUT NOT SURE IN WHAT CAPACITY.
D line, linebackers and db coaches not mentioned as of yet
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Browns have assembled a legit all star offensive staff.
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Browns have assembled a legit all star offensive staff.
Browns have assembled a legit all star offensive staff.
Mike Priefer should make a huge difference on ST. Might start seeing some.....gasp... blocked kicks
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