The official Terry Pluto thread
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From Terry:
8. While Williams has said he’s open to staying on the job, I’m not sure it’s a good idea. It would be hard for him to take a step back after his 5-3 record and strong showing as a head coach. Caldwell would be a relatively safe pick for the Browns, but I sense the Browns want more than “safe.”.....
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Wow, known "safe" commodity versus going outside for maybe a better long term fix. Tough decision.
Not really. You have a guy that wins and the players respond to. You can afford to look hard with those aces on your hand
Not really. You have a guy that wins and the players respond to. You can afford to look hard with those aces on your hand
It does give you the ability to look at anybody and everybody if you have a guaranteed fall back position.
Feels like draft time again with all of the rumours and posturing.
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Not really. You have a guy that wins and the players respond to. You can afford to look hard with those aces on your hand
It does give you the ability to look at anybody and everybody if you have a guaranteed fall back position.
Feels like draft time again with all of the rumours and posturing.
It does give you the ability to look at anybody and everybody if you have a guaranteed fall back position.
Feels like draft time again with all of the rumours and posturing.
but were not good at long dragged out things on this board ?..watch when the 1st good defensive coach goes or Zona calls Freddie back to HC?..Am taking that week off ?️ book it
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Regarding coach Williams
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13. Williams and Kitchens were thrown together after the firings of Jackson and offensive coordinator Todd Haley. In fact, Kitchens was hired by Haley. He was close to Haley. He didn’t know Williams very well. The fact the two men worked well together played a big part in Kitchens emerging as the head coach for 2019.
Seems to be conflicting reports on “whose guy” Kitchens was. Too many chefs in Kitchens’ grill.
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On point 3, I read this as the NFL is blacklisting GW from a HC job league wide
On point 3, I read this as the NFL is blacklisting GW from a HC job league wide
lmao.....yeah just like the nfl is blacklisting me from a HC job too....thats why I dont have one!
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On point 3, I read this as the NFL is blacklisting GW from a HC job league wide
lmao.....yeah just like the nfl is blacklisting me from a HC job too....thats why I dont have one!
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.....6. The state of kicking in the NFL is shaky, especially since the move from about 20 yards to 33 yards for extra points. Joseph had a decent rookie year. But he doesn’t inspire much confidence in me. I was spoiled by Phil Dawson. By the way, Dawson will be 44 on Jan. 23. He was only 5-of-8 on field goals last year before being cut by Arizona. The Browns need to find the next Phil Dawson.......
Strange how currently this is such a problem in the NFL with all of the NCAA players out there at all levels.
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.....6. The state of kicking in the NFL is shaky, especially since the move from about 20 yards to 33 yards for extra points. Joseph had a decent rookie year. But he doesn’t inspire much confidence in me. I was spoiled by Phil Dawson. By the way, Dawson will be 44 on Jan. 23. He was only 5-of-8 on field goals last year before being cut by Arizona. The Browns need to find the next Phil Dawson.......
Strange how currently this is such a problem in the NFL with all of the NCAA players out there at all levels.
.....6. The state of kicking in the NFL is shaky, especially since the move from about 20 yards to 33 yards for extra points. Joseph had a decent rookie year. But he doesn’t inspire much confidence in me. I was spoiled by Phil Dawson. By the way, Dawson will be 44 on Jan. 23. He was only 5-of-8 on field goals last year before being cut by Arizona. The Browns need to find the next Phil Dawson.......
Strange how currently this is such a problem in the NFL with all of the NCAA players out there at all levels.
Seems simple tho. They just don’t want to pay kickers. Other than winning or losing ballgames, they have little value. Go figure
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Todays scribbles
WSS
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2. None of this happens unless General Manager John Dorsey and his front office select Mayfield with the No. 1 pick. Suppose they had taken my guy (Josh Rosen). Or they had taken the favorite of the draft experts (Sam Darnold). Or maybe picked Saquon Barkley, the running back from Penn State.
3. Barkley is a star with the New York Giants, but Pat Shurmur’s team won only five games with veteran Eli Manning at QB. Rosen had a miserable rookie year with the Arizona Cardinals. Darnold had a few nice moments, but he has a long way to go before being considered a viable long-term NFL starting quarterback.......
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Oh how Dorsey and Mayfield helped prove a LOT of people wrong (me included). Can't wait for the 2019 draft and offseason moves....I can't believe I'm actually saying that.
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2. None of this happens unless General Manager John Dorsey and his front office select Mayfield with the No. 1 pick. Suppose they had taken my guy (Josh Rosen). Or they had taken the favorite of the draft experts (Sam Darnold). Or maybe picked Saquon Barkley, the running back from Penn State.
3. Barkley is a star with the New York Giants, but Pat Shurmur’s team won only five games with veteran Eli Manning at QB. Rosen had a miserable rookie year with the Arizona Cardinals. Darnold had a few nice moments, but he has a long way to go before being considered a viable long-term NFL starting quarterback.......
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Oh how Dorsey and Mayfield helped prove a LOT of people wrong (me included). Can't wait for the 2019 draft and offseason moves....I can't believe I'm actually saying that.
2. None of this happens unless General Manager John Dorsey and his front office select Mayfield with the No. 1 pick. Suppose they had taken my guy (Josh Rosen). Or they had taken the favorite of the draft experts (Sam Darnold). Or maybe picked Saquon Barkley, the running back from Penn State.
3. Barkley is a star with the New York Giants, but Pat Shurmur’s team won only five games with veteran Eli Manning at QB. Rosen had a miserable rookie year with the Arizona Cardinals. Darnold had a few nice moments, but he has a long way to go before being considered a viable long-term NFL starting quarterback.......
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Oh how Dorsey and Mayfield helped prove a LOT of people wrong (me included). Can't wait for the 2019 draft and offseason moves....I can't believe I'm actually saying that.
This is the very first off season that I have looked forward to the next season with genuine optimism since the late 80s.
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2. None of this happens unless General Manager John Dorsey and his front office select Mayfield with the No. 1 pick. Suppose they had taken my guy (Josh Rosen). Or they had taken the favorite of the draft experts (Sam Darnold). Or maybe picked Saquon Barkley, the running back from Penn State.
3. Barkley is a star with the New York Giants, but Pat Shurmur’s team won only five games with veteran Eli Manning at QB. Rosen had a miserable rookie year with the Arizona Cardinals. Darnold had a few nice moments, but he has a long way to go before being considered a viable long-term NFL starting quarterback.......
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Oh how Dorsey and Mayfield helped prove a LOT of people wrong (me included). Can't wait for the 2019 draft and offseason moves....I can't believe I'm actually saying that.
This is the very first off season that I have looked forward to the next season with genuine optimism since the late 80s.
This is the very first off season that I have looked forward to the next season with genuine optimism since the late 80s.
Now with just the SB LIII and the exhibition game formerly known as the Pro Bowl left I imagine many of us feel the same way.
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This is the very first off season that I have looked forward to the next season with genuine optimism since the late 80s.
Now with just the SB LIII and the exhibition game formerly known as the Pro Bowl left I imagine many of us feel the same way.
Now with just the SB LIII and the exhibition game formerly known as the Pro Bowl left I imagine many of us feel the same way.
WHAT super bowl? You mean the Ref Bowl?
I'll be tying flies on Ref Bowl Sunday in preparation for this coming fishing season.
Mike
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Didn't he have a line of BBQ sauce?
WSS
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This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs.
Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory.
For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........
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Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more.
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This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs.
Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory.
For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........
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Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more.
This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs.
Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory.
For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........
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Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more.
My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart.
Edit
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm
WSS
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This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs.
Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory.
For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........
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Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more.
My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart.
Edit
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm
WSS
My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart.
Edit
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm
WSS
OMG I was at that game, still have the ticket stubs somewhere in my collection I'll have to look for them.
I was a maintenance foreman and my superintendant often gave me FREE or COMPLIMENTARY tickets.
.......edit add, I found my LAR at CLE ticket stub from 1978 BROWNS won 30-19. Have not found the 1977 game but it might be in another box.
Did find the 1977 PIT at CLE stub among others......and lots of INDIANS ticket stubs.
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This is something Browns fans have missed: A chance to sit and shiver through bone-chilling winter weather and watch their favorite team in the playoffs.
Even if it means have yet another rotten Browns postseason memory.
For the record, the Browns lost: 36-33. ........
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~●
Ahhhh yes cold weather memories, we look forward to more.
My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart.
Edit
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm
WSS
My cold weather memory was November 27th my birthday I forget what year Cleveland Browns vs Los Angeles with Pat Haden after Joe Namath had been benched. Starting for the Browns was dr. Dave Mays oh, doctor bomb. Browns lost 9 zip and it was colder than Hillary's heart.
Edit
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197711270cle.htm
WSS
Edmund Hillary?
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