Antonio Brown
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We lost shazier to a freak injury otherwise the defense would be infinitely better. Ben is going to play for as long as the offensive line keeps him clean and as it stands the steelers have one of the best in the league. I expect him to sign another 3 to 4 year extension and health permitting will see it through. It's also easy to "hit the draft out of the park" when you draft inside the top 10 every single season vs drafting in the 20's and even still the steelers smacked the watt draft out of the park. How soon it seems you've forgotten seeing as Watt, juju and Connor all came out of that draft.
The Steelers offensive line was one of the best in the league because they had like Munchak coaching it which they no longer have so that best in the league is out the windows
The Steelers offensive line was one of the best in the league because they had like Munchak coaching it which they no longer have so that best in the league is out the windows
Don't worry Gipper, Vag is hallucinating the Steeler gravy train will never end....
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The Steelers offensive line was one of the best in the league because they had like Munchak coaching it which they no longer have so that best in the league is out the windows
Don't worry Gipper, Vag is hallucinating the Steeler gravy train will never end....
Don't worry Gipper, Vag is hallucinating the Steeler gravy train will never end....
He thinks because the team was good in the past that means they will always be good. Then shouldn’t it be the fact that if a team is always bad it will always be bad in the future. Maybe he should’ve consulted Chuck Noll all about that because if that was the case he would not of bothered to of taken the Steelers job back in 1969.
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Don't worry Gipper, Vag is hallucinating the Steeler gravy train will never end....
He thinks because the team was good in the past that means they will always be good. Then shouldn’t it be the fact that if a team is always bad it will always be bad in the future. Maybe he should’ve consulted Chuck Noll all about that because if that was the case he would not of bothered to of taken the Steelers job back in 1969.
He thinks because the team was good in the past that means they will always be good. Then shouldn’t it be the fact that if a team is always bad it will always be bad in the future. Maybe he should’ve consulted Chuck Noll all about that because if that was the case he would not of bothered to of taken the Steelers job back in 1969.
Exactly what I said, if you'd check my posts... Lalalalala, it's all wonderful in Steeler land. We're the mighty Steelers- even though we didn't make the playoffs this year.... Are you seeing third place in the AFC North this year?
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The Steelers offensive line was one of the best in the league because they had like Munchak coaching it which they no longer have so that best in the league is out the windows
Don't worry Gipper, Vag is hallucinating the Steeler gravy train will never end....
Don't worry Gipper, Vag is hallucinating the Steeler gravy train will never end....
kinda interesting that he decided to ignore me tho...?
dudes out to lunch...as i said, real steeler fans are sweating, at the very least. they see the window closing. Vag is just an apologist fanboy that reads cheerleader takes like fidipaldo and dulac, then yuks it up as gospel. problem in pitt is that if the beat writers levy too much criticism, their access to the team gets removed. its how rooney keeps the positive narrative in the limelight.
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First football coach to take a job in another city because his daughter lives there. Especially since his Mother, Father and Sisters live in PA and the Penn State alum has connections throughout the state.
The Broncos have a Defensive coach, haven't picked an offensive coordinator yet, and Munch has already grabbed the OL job ... that's how bad he wanted off the set of the Kardashians .
Zombo
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Forgot one thing vag...
I'll just leave this here for ya...
Just munch using the same xcuse to stay in Pittsburgh last year...nothing big ?
Forgot one thing vag...
I'll just leave this here for ya...
Just munch using the same xcuse to stay in Pittsburgh last year...nothing big ?
I'm fairly certain Munchak just left Pittsburgh for Denver...
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Forgot one thing vag...
I'll just leave this here for ya...
Just munch using the same xcuse to stay in Pittsburgh last year...nothing big ?
I'm fairly certain Munchak just left Pittsburgh for Denver...
I'm fairly certain Munchak just left Pittsburgh for Denver...
uh...yup. what i posted was an article from last year where munch cites family to stay in pitt, rather than take a job in arizona.
so, cites family to stay in pitt. also cites family to leave pitt.
its a crock of shit that Vag guzzled the first chance he got.
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Don't worry Gipper, Vag is hallucinating the Steeler gravy train will never end....
kinda interesting that he decided to ignore me tho...?
dudes out to lunch...as i said, real steeler fans are sweating, at the very least. they see the window closing. Vag is just an apologist fanboy that reads cheerleader takes like fidipaldo and dulac, then yuks it up as gospel. problem in pitt is that if the beat writers levy too much criticism, their access to the team gets removed. its how rooney keeps the positive narrative in the limelight.
kinda interesting that he decided to ignore me tho...?
dudes out to lunch...as i said, real steeler fans are sweating, at the very least. they see the window closing. Vag is just an apologist fanboy that reads cheerleader takes like fidipaldo and dulac, then yuks it up as gospel. problem in pitt is that if the beat writers levy too much criticism, their access to the team gets removed. its how rooney keeps the positive narrative in the limelight.
I read wexell and kozora and only mentioned paying as a indicator that I go out of my way to follow along. It's okay to try and make it about me "not following along" if it will make you feel better about me denying the demise. Further more the "average steeler fan" is an idiot just like the average Browns fan. I'm a "yinzer" and a proud one in certain capacities but a yinzer when it comes to sports is defined in my mind and a lot of others as a dip shit that follows sound bites and acts in a reactionary manner. You may think you are getting the heartbeat of the fan base being that close to the stadium but you just aren't. The rational fans are dragging their ass across the floor all over social media. I also can't stand most of what is said on 93.7 and that's the only real full time radio gig in town. The fan includes both Ron cook and andrew fillipponi and they are both blow hards.
Brown still isn't gone and is unlikely to be gone. Yet somehow the loss of bell and potentially brown makes the steelers talent less? In what world? Our offensive line is all world, our defensive line is ridiculously good. TJ watt had more pressures than von Miller and IF brown is traded it's going to be at LEAST another first round pick which will also be from a cash + team. The latter normally means a higher draft pick due to lack of total team talent or youth.
Let's also mention the steelers and their ability to draft wr's. Just in the last ten years you have Brown, sanders, Wallace and juju. Wallace left and flaked out but the other three are tremendous. Are the steelers just going to forget how to draft them now? Washington didn't get a chance to see the field much due.to the talent log jam and some rookie miscues. Keep talking about the steelers demise and I will keep rubbing it in when you are wrong.
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I'm fairly certain Munchak just left Pittsburgh for Denver...
uh...yup. what i posted was an article from last year where munch cites family to stay in pitt, rather than take a job in arizona.
so, cites family to stay in pitt. also cites family to leave pitt.
its a crock of shit that Vag guzzled the first chance he got.
uh...yup. what i posted was an article from last year where munch cites family to stay in pitt, rather than take a job in arizona.
so, cites family to stay in pitt. also cites family to leave pitt.
its a crock of shit that Vag guzzled the first chance he got.
What part of his nephew routinely posts on my primary steeler board didn't you read the first time. I also don't know when his family moved to Denver and la. Arizona isn't Denver, his daughter LIVES in Denver. She LIVES in Denver. Did you read it this time?
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And I didn't want munchak to leave, it's a blow for sure but only because I haven't seen how the team performs under Sarrett. However Sarrett is loved by the lineman and learned under munchak. I'm just not a reactionary spoiled twat like some of our fan base is on the regular.
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kinda interesting that he decided to ignore me tho...?
dudes out to lunch...as i said, real steeler fans are sweating, at the very least. they see the window closing. Vag is just an apologist fanboy that reads cheerleader takes like fidipaldo and dulac, then yuks it up as gospel. problem in pitt is that if the beat writers levy too much criticism, their access to the team gets removed. its how rooney keeps the positive narrative in the limelight.
I read wexell and kozora and only mentioned paying as a indicator that I go out of my way to follow along. It's okay to try and make it about me "not following along" if it will make you feel better about me denying the demise. Further more the "average steeler fan" is an idiot just like the average Browns fan. I'm a "yinzer" and a proud one in certain capacities but a yinzer when it comes to sports is defined in my mind and a lot of others as a dip shit that follows sound bites and acts in a reactionary manner. You may think you are getting the heartbeat of the fan base being that close to the stadium but you just aren't. The rational fans are dragging their ass across the floor all over social media. I also can't stand most of what is said on 93.7 and that's the only real full time radio gig in town. The fan includes both Ron cook and andrew fillipponi and they are both blow hards.
Brown still isn't gone and is unlikely to be gone. Yet somehow the loss of bell and potentially brown makes the steelers talent less? In what world? Our offensive line is all world, our defensive line is ridiculously good. TJ watt had more pressures than von Miller and IF brown is traded it's going to be at LEAST another first round pick which will also be from a cash + team. The latter normally means a higher draft pick due to lack of total team talent or youth.
Let's also mention the steelers and their ability to draft wr's. Just in the last ten years you have Brown, sanders, Wallace and juju. Wallace left and flaked out but the other three are tremendous. Are the steelers just going to forget how to draft them now? Washington didn't get a chance to see the field much due.to the talent log jam and some rookie miscues. Keep talking about the steelers demise and I will keep rubbing it in when you are wrong.
Brown still isn't gone and is unlikely to be gone. Yet somehow the loss of bell and potentially brown makes the steelers talent less?
Yes....because the RB talent you have now is not as good as it was with him. Again, no disparagement to Conner who played well....but he is just not as good.
In what world?
Planet Earth...ever hear of it?
Our offensive line is all world,
It WAS ....when coached by Munchak...now, it remains to be seen.
our defensive line is ridiculously good.
Its pretty good...not ridiculously good. Not Top Ten. And you have no DL anywhere near as good as Myles Garrett. Maybe overall the Spermsuckers DL is better than the Browns...but it is marginally so.
TJ watt had more pressures than von Miller and IF brown is traded it's going to be at LEAST another first round pick which will also be from a cash + team. The latter normally means a higher draft pick due to lack of total team talent or youth.
Again...you are one fucking idiot if you think that they will get a first rounder out of Brown. A. he is aging (by your own admission Smith has passed him by) B. A fire sale means getting lowballed. C. If you keep him....that team will officially have to be declared to be run by idiots)
Let's also mention the steelers and their ability to draft wr's. Just in the last ten years you have Brown, sanders, Wallace and juju. Wallace left and flaked out but the other three are tremendous. Are the steelers just going to forget how to draft them now? Washington didn't get a chance to see the field much due.to the talent log jam and some rookie miscues. Keep talking about the steelers demise and I will keep rubbing it in when you are wrong.
Well....you got ONE of those guys left (or will after Brown is gone).....and he may pretty good...but how good is he when he is #1. He may have been great as a #2....but as a #1? Who knows.
And Washington? The Browns will have 4 WRs on their roster next year likely that are better than him.
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Brown still isn't gone and is unlikely to be gone. Yet somehow the loss of bell and potentially brown makes the steelers talent less?
Yes....because the RB talent you have now is not as good as it was with him. Again, no disparagement to Conner who played well....but he is just not as good.
In what world?
Planet Earth...ever hear of it?
Our offensive line is all world,
It WAS ....when coached by Munchak...now, it remains to be seen.
our defensive line is ridiculously good.
Its pretty good...not ridiculously good. Not Top Ten. And you have no DL anywhere near as good as Myles Garrett. Maybe overall the Spermsuckers DL is better than the Browns...but it is marginally so.
TJ watt had more pressures than von Miller and IF brown is traded it's going to be at LEAST another first round pick which will also be from a cash + team. The latter normally means a higher draft pick due to lack of total team talent or youth.
Again...you are one fucking idiot if you think that they will get a first rounder out of Brown. A. he is aging (by your own admission Smith has passed him by) B. A fire sale means getting lowballed. C. If you keep him....that team will officially have to be declared to be run by idiots)
Let's also mention the steelers and their ability to draft wr's. Just in the last ten years you have Brown, sanders, Wallace and juju. Wallace left and flaked out but the other three are tremendous. Are the steelers just going to forget how to draft them now? Washington didn't get a chance to see the field much due.to the talent log jam and some rookie miscues. Keep talking about the steelers demise and I will keep rubbing it in when you are wrong.
Well....you got ONE of those guys left (or will after Brown is gone).....and he may pretty good...but how good is he when he is #1. He may have been great as a #2....but as a #1? Who knows.
And Washington? The Browns will have 4 WRs on their roster next year likely that are better than him.
Myles Garrett Is a beast but you had to suck ass to draft him. I like ogbah too and even ogunjobi. However not everything I say here is in relation to the Browns, it was in relation to comments made. Heyward, tuitt and Hargrave are damn good and only one was drafted in the first round at pick 31!
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And your Washington comment is pure speculation. He had a more decorated college career than every guy on your roster with the exception of maybe Landry.
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And your Washington comment is pure speculation. He had a more decorated college career than every guy on your roster with the exception of maybe Landry.
And your Washington comment is pure speculation. He had a more decorated college career than every guy on your roster with the exception of maybe Landry.
Anything you say positive about Washington is pure speculation. And really....my statement is NOT speculation. Landry, Higgins, Callaway, Perriman...all had better production THIS year than Washington.
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Myles Garrett Is a beast but you had to suck ass to draft him. I like ogbah too and even ogunjobi. However not everything I say here is in relation to the Browns, it was in relation to comments made. Heyward, tuitt and Hargrave are damn good and only one was drafted in the first round at pick 31!
Myles Garrett Is a beast but you had to suck ass to draft him. I like ogbah too and even ogunjobi. However not everything I say here is in relation to the Browns, it was in relation to comments made. Heyward, tuitt and Hargrave are damn good and only one was drafted in the first round at pick 31!
Wasn't Heyward a first round pick? And TJ Watt? Other than Garrett, I think the Steelers DL consists of higher draft picks than the Browns DL does.
BUT....You can't really do apples to apples because the Steelers still run the 3/4. And the Browns a 4-3.
If you take a look at each team's front 7.....the Steelers have Three first round picks with Heyward, Dupree, Watt, and a second rounder in Tuitt, and a third rounder with Hargrave....and a couple of FAs.
The Browns have one first rounder: Garrett, one second rounder: Ogbah, one third rounder Ogunjobi, one 4th rounder...Schobert. One 5th rounder Avery...and a couple of free agents: Coley/Collins
The Steelers have invested far more heavily in their front 7 than the Browns. Ergo...they SHOULD have a better front 7.
I...and most on here likely agree that the Browns DO need to make a heavier investment in their defensive front 7...and may start to do so in the next draft.
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Myles Garrett Is a beast but you had to suck ass to draft him. I like ogbah too and even ogunjobi. However not everything I say here is in relation to the Browns, it was in relation to comments made. Heyward, tuitt and Hargrave are damn good and only one was drafted in the first round at pick 31!
Wasn't Heyward a first round pick? And TJ Watt? Other than Garrett, I think the Steelers DL consists of higher draft picks than the Browns DL does.
BUT....You can't really do apples to apples because the Steelers still run the 3/4. And the Browns a 4-3.
If you take a look at each team's front 7.....the Steelers have Three first round picks with Heyward, Dupree, Watt, and a second rounder in Tuitt, and a third rounder with Hargrave....and a couple of FAs.
The Browns have one first rounder: Garrett, one second rounder: Ogbah, one third rounder Ogunjobi, one 4th rounder...Schobert. One 5th rounder Avery...and a couple of free agents: Coley/Collins
The Steelers have invested far more heavily in their front 7 than the Browns. Ergo...they SHOULD have a better front 7.
I...and most on here likely agree that the Browns DO need to make a heavier investment in their defensive front 7...and may start to do so in the next draft.
Wasn't Heyward a first round pick? And TJ Watt? Other than Garrett, I think the Steelers DL consists of higher draft picks than the Browns DL does.
BUT....You can't really do apples to apples because the Steelers still run the 3/4. And the Browns a 4-3.
If you take a look at each team's front 7.....the Steelers have Three first round picks with Heyward, Dupree, Watt, and a second rounder in Tuitt, and a third rounder with Hargrave....and a couple of FAs.
The Browns have one first rounder: Garrett, one second rounder: Ogbah, one third rounder Ogunjobi, one 4th rounder...Schobert. One 5th rounder Avery...and a couple of free agents: Coley/Collins
The Steelers have invested far more heavily in their front 7 than the Browns. Ergo...they SHOULD have a better front 7.
I...and most on here likely agree that the Browns DO need to make a heavier investment in their defensive front 7...and may start to do so in the next draft.
A d the steelers do have a better front seven, soooooo. The only guy I'd take from the Browns front seven over any of our guys is Garrett. He's a beast and a athletic specimen.
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And your Washington comment is pure speculation. He had a more decorated college career than every guy on your roster with the exception of maybe Landry.
Anything you say positive about Washington is pure speculation. And really....my statement is NOT speculation. Landry, Higgins, Callaway, Perriman...all had better production THIS year than Washington.
Anything you say positive about Washington is pure speculation. And really....my statement is NOT speculation. Landry, Higgins, Callaway, Perriman...all had better production THIS year than Washington.
Washington hardly saw the field. He had two receivers on his team go over 100 receptions. Perriman flaked out in Baltimore. Landry is your damn starter. If you want to include him how did he stack up against juju or brown? Lol
81 catches, less than a 1000 and four tds. How in the hell are you going to compare your starter to basically our 4th string rookie? Washington was inactive some games this year. Gipper it's a Wednesday at 12. You hitting the bottle? Bad Santa?
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Wasn't Heyward a first round pick? And TJ Watt? Other than Garrett, I think the Steelers DL consists of higher draft picks than the Browns DL does.
BUT....You can't really do apples to apples because the Steelers still run the 3/4. And the Browns a 4-3.
If you take a look at each team's front 7.....the Steelers have Three first round picks with Heyward, Dupree, Watt, and a second rounder in Tuitt, and a third rounder with Hargrave....and a couple of FAs.
The Browns have one first rounder: Garrett, one second rounder: Ogbah, one third rounder Ogunjobi, one 4th rounder...Schobert. One 5th rounder Avery...and a couple of free agents: Coley/Collins
The Steelers have invested far more heavily in their front 7 than the Browns. Ergo...they SHOULD have a better front 7.
I...and most on here likely agree that the Browns DO need to make a heavier investment in their defensive front 7...and may start to do so in the next draft.
A d the steelers do have a better front seven, soooooo. The only guy I'd take from the Browns front seven over any of our guys is Garrett. He's a beast and a athletic specimen.
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Anything you say positive about Washington is pure speculation. And really....my statement is NOT speculation. Landry, Higgins, Callaway, Perriman...all had better production THIS year than Washington.
Washington hardly saw the field. He had two receivers on his team go over 100 receptions. Perriman flaked out in Baltimore. Landry is your damn starter. If you want to include him how did he stack up against juju or brown? Lol
81 catches, less than a 1000 and four tds. How in the hell are you going to compare your starter to basically our 4th string rookie? Washington was inactive some games this year. Gipper it's a Wednesday at 12. You hitting the bottle? Bad Santa?
Washington hardly saw the field.
Yea...because he wasn't fucking good enough...you asswipe. Most teams DO run 3-4 WR sets a lot of the time these days....so if he was good enough he would have seen plenty of the field. Your OC must not have figured that he was one of your 4 best WRs.
He had two receivers on his team go over 100 receptions. Perriman flaked out in Baltimore. Landry is your damn starter. If you want to include him how did he stack up against juju or brown? Lol
This proves you are an idiot with the inability to read English We were talking next year: You won't have Brown......and I said that the Browns will have 4 WRs that are better than Washington. (I didn't say they would be better than Schmister). Perriman played very well for the Browns...don't know what the problem was in Balt.
81 catches, less than a 1000 and four tds. How in the hell are you going to compare your starter to basically our 4th string rookie? Washington was inactive some games this year. Gipper it's a Wednesday at 12. You hitting the bottle? Bad Santa?
I would say that you are the one hitting the bottle. Either that or you need to repeat second grade reading class.
What is it about "The Browns will have 4 WRs better than Washington" that you did not understand? I didn't say that we will have 4 4th string WRs better than Washington (though maybe that could even be true)...I said 4 WRs. Landry will be one, Perriman one, Higgins one, Calloway one......even Damion Ratley our 5th/6th stringer could be one. He played about as well as Washington. (and let's not forget...he had a HOFer throwing to him...not a career backup and a rookie)
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Washington hardly saw the field.
Yea...because he wasn't fucking good enough...you asswipe. Most teams DO run 3-4 WR sets a lot of the time these days....so if he was good enough he would have seen plenty of the field. Your OC must not have figured that he was one of your 4 best WRs.
He had two receivers on his team go over 100 receptions. Perriman flaked out in Baltimore. Landry is your damn starter. If you want to include him how did he stack up against juju or brown? Lol
This proves you are an idiot with the inability to read English We were talking next year: You won't have Brown......and I said that the Browns will have 4 WRs that are better than Washington. (I didn't say they would be better than Schmister). Perriman played very well for the Browns...don't know what the problem was in Balt.
81 catches, less than a 1000 and four tds. How in the hell are you going to compare your starter to basically our 4th string rookie? Washington was inactive some games this year. Gipper it's a Wednesday at 12. You hitting the bottle? Bad Santa?
I would say that you are the one hitting the bottle. Either that or you need to repeat second grade reading class.
What is it about "The Browns will have 4 WRs better than Washington" that you did not understand? I didn't say that we will have 4 4th string WRs better than Washington (though maybe that could even be true)...I said 4 WRs. Landry will be one, Perriman one, Higgins one, Calloway one......even Damion Ratley our 5th/6th stringer could be one. He played about as well as Washington. (and let's not forget...he had a HOFer throwing to him...not a career backup and a rookie)
I would hope you would have a few CURRENTLY better than our fourth string rookie you dip shit. I understood the statement but thought it was ridiculous.
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