The Missed Call in NFC Champ. Game
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except THAT CALL ! The unbelievable no doubt about it flagrant interference call when that is where the ball was going?
nah - just because some calls get missed, THAT was NOT a "missed call".
That was intentional - there isn't an rational explanation for it to be some "accident". Just none.
except THAT CALL ! The unbelievable no doubt about it flagrant interference call when that is where the ball was going?
nah - just because some calls get missed, THAT was NOT a "missed call".
That was intentional - there isn't an rational explanation for it to be some "accident". Just none.
I have to agree with cal. The rams DB intentionally laid out the wr, he even said so after the game...he knew he was beat. How do u miss a call like that? 80k people were looking right at it, im amazed saints fans disnt riot.
But myles landing on a QB like a fluffy pillow, we dont miss those calls....
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Baking up Turnovers said:
It was a bad call but the Saints were up big and never should have been in position for the refs to influence the game
When ur talking a co ference championship game, they're almost always going to be close games. Those teams are there for a reason.
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Completely disagree, and I'm shocked more of you on this forum didn't call BS. When did this forum become like U Miami after the loss to Ohio State in 03? Quit whining about one play and ask why they didn't take advantage of the other 50 opportunities they did have.
If the penalty was called, they get a first. OK. Maybe they miss the FG, maybe they fumble. Saints got the ball first in OT and failed there also.
Saints didn't need the refs' help to blow multiple plays in the first half.. and if the refereeing is perfect we also don't know what ADDITIONAL calls would have gone against the Saints.
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Completely disagree, and I'm shocked more of you on this forum didn't call BS. When did this forum become like U Miami after the loss to Ohio State in 03? Quit whining about one play and ask why they didn't take advantage of the other 50 opportunities they did have.
If the penalty was called, they get a first. OK. Maybe they miss the FG, maybe they fumble. Saints got the ball first in OT and failed there also.
Saints didn't need the refs' help to blow multiple plays in the first half.. and if the refereeing is perfect we also don't know what ADDITIONAL calls would have gone against the Saints.
Completely disagree, and I'm shocked more of you on this forum didn't call BS. When did this forum become like U Miami after the loss to Ohio State in 03? Quit whining about one play and ask why they didn't take advantage of the other 50 opportunities they did have.
If the penalty was called, they get a first. OK. Maybe they miss the FG, maybe they fumble. Saints got the ball first in OT and failed there also.
Saints didn't need the refs' help to blow multiple plays in the first half.. and if the refereeing is perfect we also don't know what ADDITIONAL calls would have gone against the Saints.
Though I didn't understand Peyton not running the ball on first down and I remember the missed opportunities, I have to disagree.
You have a number of challenges that you should use wisely, so if they miss a PI on first quarter, you may swallow it because humans make mistakes. But when the game is on the line and the tension is growing, the failed calls are less acceptable and not having the chance to review them (even if you don't increase the number of challenges) and FIX human mistakes (even more after showing that mistake to millions of people) is something that should be changed.
I don't want them to have a thousand of challenge flags, I just want the coaches to have the chance to challenge any kind of fault and referees don't whistling the ball dead way too early. Those two situations frustrate me the most.
And I repeat, I don't believe in conspiracy theories.
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While it is true that the Saints missed several opportunities to put the game away...
The simple fact is that if the correct call is made and the flag is thrown, the Saints run the clock down to 00 :04 and then kick the game-winning field goal. So yeah, that blown non-call cost the Saints a trip to the SB.
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As opposed, of course, to the blown possession in OT or every other blown possession in regulation, right?
How do Chicago and Indianapolis feel about your assumption that every playoff team never misses a FG or XP?
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Baking up Turnovers said:
It was a bad call but the Saints were up big and never should have been in position for the refs to influence the game
irrelevant...having lost a lead has absolutely nothing to do with the blown call...its a red herring used by folks like you to excuse the incompetence int he product we are served.
at that point in the game, the call changed the likely outcome of the game. what happened prior to that point is irrelevant.
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I agree that missed calls are part of the game. But here u have a completely non borderline situation where a player even acknowledged he purposefully wiped out the WR cause he knew he was beat. They stacked up for the run and brees saw the opening. If u let deliberate violations of the rules slide like that, what kind of sport are we talking about here?
Would they allow these days a QB to get body slammed after the play like what happened to mcmahon back in the day? Probably not but they essentially allowed something very similiar to be done to a WR. Wiped out and helmet to helmet. More than one flag could have and should have been thrown. This arhument the Saints cost themselves the fame by not going up 50 points earlier is ridiculous. Its 2 of the top 4 teams in the NFL playing each other, one is not going to blow out the other. Not with those defenses.
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The scary thing is the NFL typically uses their "BEST" refs for the playoffs and SB.
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Baking up Turnovers said:
It was a bad call but the Saints were up big and never should have been in position for the refs to influence the game
irrelevant...having lost a lead has absolutely nothing to do with the blown call...its a red herring used by folks like you to excuse the incompetence int he product we are served.
at that point in the game, the call changed the likely outcome of the game. what happened prior to that point is irrelevant.
irrelevant...having lost a lead has absolutely nothing to do with the blown call...its a red herring used by folks like you to excuse the incompetence int he product we are served.
at that point in the game, the call changed the likely outcome of the game. what happened prior to that point is irrelevant.
You'd be a great little league parent.....
In the bottom of the 7th little Jenny takes a ball at her shoulders on a full count, 2 outs, bases loaded, down 1 and the ump calls it strike 3 to end the game..... everyone loses their minds. "The ump took the game away from us"....... oh yea?
What about the bases loaded in the bottom of the 1st and our 4, 5 and 6 hitters all go down looking?
What about the over throw by the 3B into the dugout with 2 outs and bases loaded in the top of the 3rd that let 2 runs score?
What about the missed call by the batter on a suicide squeeze that got our runner thrown out in the 5th?
^ Yep, the ump cost us the game alright.........
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Jeez...... missed or bad calls have been a part of every single sport, at every single level, since that sport was invented.
Boohoo..... get over it already for fucksake.
Jeez...... missed or bad calls have been a part of every single sport, at every single level, since that sport was invented.
Boohoo..... get over it already for fucksake.
I agree that everyone except the Saints and their fans should get over it. I know if that was the Browns that it happened to in the AFC title game, I still wouldn't be over it.
But hopefully this forces the league to address how bad the refs performance was pretty much all season. I don't remember a year when there were so many not just bad calls, but calls that were hard to believe they were called or not called.
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lol...you think thats a good analogy? you forgot the part where the called third strike was so far out of the strike zone that the catcher had to move off the plate just to keep the ball from going to the backstop.
otherwise, this nonsensical "logic" is just excuse making. the saints were driving and were in position to put the game away...decisions or mistakes prior to that dont change the fact the saints were in position to put the game away. and that was changed by one non-call...had that call been made, saints merely had to kneel to run out the clock. nothing prior to the non-call changes the fact that the non-call had a huge impact on the game at that point. i wonder how you feet about the browns getting jobbed in the bad spot in oakland...
so, the basis of you point is simple..."saints should have scored more and not made mistakes". thats absofuckinglutely brilliant...and completely ignores the other team also has good players, and is also trying to win the game.
really...that is such a sad defense of an indefensible position.
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The shit is out of hand, Any NFL player will tell you Holding happens on every single play, and it is the refs call if they want to throw a flag or not. That is bullshit, No play should be a judgement call for the refs. Just like many of you guys I can name hundreds if not thousands of plays where the refs fucked us for no reason at all, and yes it has happened to other teams as well but it should never happen. Just like that bullshit game agains the Skins a few years back, Duke Johnson came out of the pile with the ball, whil the refs were still uncovering the pile but that **MASK** ref already awarded the Skins the ball. They could not challenge that? WTF? same game and same ref threw 2 DPI calls on Haden when video replay showed no contact, like several years back, we stopped Pispuke on 4th and goal but for no reason at all they awarded Pisspuke the First down. It is hard to argue that the refs don't rig games when shit like this happens. But I guess we have to keep in mind that the courts already had argued and the NFL won the case that the NFL is sports entertainment not competition.
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Jeez...... missed or bad calls have been a part of every single sport, at every single level, since that sport was invented.
Boohoo..... get over it already for fucksake.
I agree that everyone except the Saints and their fans should get over it. I know if that was the Browns that it happened to in the AFC title game, I still wouldn't be over it.
But hopefully this forces the league to address how bad the refs performance was pretty much all season. I don't remember a year when there were so many not just bad calls, but calls that were hard to believe they were called or not called.
I agree that everyone except the Saints and their fans should get over it. I know if that was the Browns that it happened to in the AFC title game, I still wouldn't be over it.
But hopefully this forces the league to address how bad the refs performance was pretty much all season. I don't remember a year when there were so many not just bad calls, but calls that were hard to believe they were called or not called.
We are not over the fact that the refs got the call on Karliss's kick wrong.....in the 1986 AFC title game.
I mean, after that the league extended the height of the goal posts so that that issue has hardly ever come up again.
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irrelevant...having lost a lead has absolutely nothing to do with the blown call...its a red herring used by folks like you to excuse the incompetence int he product we are served.
at that point in the game, the call changed the likely outcome of the game. what happened prior to that point is irrelevant.
You'd be a great little league parent.....
In the bottom of the 7th little Jenny takes a ball at her shoulders on a full count, 2 outs, bases loaded, down 1 and the ump calls it strike 3 to end the game..... everyone loses their minds. "The ump took the game away from us"....... oh yea?
What about the bases loaded in the bottom of the 1st and our 4, 5 and 6 hitters all go down looking?
What about the over throw by the 3B into the dugout with 2 outs and bases loaded in the top of the 3rd that let 2 runs score?
What about the missed call by the batter on a suicide squeeze that got our runner thrown out in the 5th?
^ Yep, the ump cost us the game alright.........
You'd be a great little league parent.....
In the bottom of the 7th little Jenny takes a ball at her shoulders on a full count, 2 outs, bases loaded, down 1 and the ump calls it strike 3 to end the game..... everyone loses their minds. "The ump took the game away from us"....... oh yea?
What about the bases loaded in the bottom of the 1st and our 4, 5 and 6 hitters all go down looking?
What about the over throw by the 3B into the dugout with 2 outs and bases loaded in the top of the 3rd that let 2 runs score?
What about the missed call by the batter on a suicide squeeze that got our runner thrown out in the 5th?
^ Yep, the ump cost us the game alright.........
I feel you. But it’s about perspective. And the ref shouldn’t have control in the outcome of the game by not doing there job and throwing the flag.
Coaches should get 1 penalty challenge flag per game(one additional if they win the challenge), where they can replay challenge a BS call or no call. Simple fix.
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I agree that everyone except the Saints and their fans should get over it. I know if that was the Browns that it happened to in the AFC title game, I still wouldn't be over it.
But hopefully this forces the league to address how bad the refs performance was pretty much all season. I don't remember a year when there were so many not just bad calls, but calls that were hard to believe they were called or not called.
We are not over the fact that the refs got the call on Karliss's kick wrong.....in the 1986 AFC title game.
I mean, after that the league extended the height of the goal posts so that that issue has hardly ever come up again.
We are not over the fact that the refs got the call on Karliss's kick wrong.....in the 1986 AFC title game.
I mean, after that the league extended the height of the goal posts so that that issue has hardly ever come up again.
I'm over it. it was 33 years ago.
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