Browns Season Tickets- the NFL has gone Millennial
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It's an unmitigated disaster...
Gipper, some of us are going to have to complain to the Browns it's a violation of the AWCDA. Americans With Cellphone Dislike Act... It never occured to me this will effectively put scalpers out of business.... Or was that the plan all along? And I am not putting Google wallet on my phone either! People are entirely too trusting of the security on their cell phones... FWIW, my phone is a little more sophisticated than the Jitterbug AARP advertises in their publications. Seems like the younger crowd feels the need to have their phone glued to their body 24\7. Not having it around results in an immediate feeling of helplessness...
And for those who are guffawing at us oldsters who have the quaint idea of liking paper tickets... I'd bet the ranch the number of season ticket holders on the high side of 60 is at least double of those who are under 30....
I just got t he top of the line black flip phone with 1 inch screen!
I just got t he top of the line black flip phone with 1 inch screen!
That's what I mean. I asked Don to call his CSR and ask them how they're going to accommodate season ticket holders who don't have cellphones. There has to be a few. Buy them phones and wireless service? Don't think so.
Though that email from the Browns is assuming everyone now has Internet service. Hey, we can save at least $15,000 sending out billing notices electronically, instead of using snail mail.
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And for those who are guffawing at us oldsters who have the quaint idea of liking paper tickets... I'd bet the ranch the number of season ticket holders on the high side of 60 is at least double of those who are under 30....
I'm 72 & my 2018 paper tickets (last year for paper) will still be in sheet form & framed on my ManCave wall soon. I have forgotten my tickets before & had to get them printed at Guest Services. I NEVER forget my phone & with a pocket charger, I never have to worry about the phone being dead.
Mike
I'm 72 & my 2018 paper tickets (last year for paper) will still be in sheet form & framed on my ManCave wall soon. I have forgotten my tickets before & had to get them printed at Guest Services. I NEVER forget my phone & with a pocket charger, I never have to worry about the phone being dead.
Mike
And then you dropped your phone and it broke.
Still would have to go to the ticket office. I realize season ticket holders get special treatment. If you're not, in that situation or your phone is out of juice (once upon a time, was trying to contact Zombo who's phone was dead) you're screwed.
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And I'm not happy. As I expected, Jimmuh is making up for lost time raising prices. The speculated 7% is low in our case. Went from $95 to $110. That's not what's bothering me.
Going to all digital tickets? That's a problem for us oldsters. A little background history. I don't consider myself a computer illiterate. I took several college level courses on computer operating systems and ancillary software programs. But this past year going to the Texans game was another story. Had to get a digital ticket to the game from Vivid Seats. It only took me around four hours spread over two days, two calls to the Texans ticket office, and loading the Houston Texans app on my phone- which I hated to do (I try to keep my phone as app free as humanly possible) to finally say- mission accomplished. Easy? Like hell!!!! Hey Browns fans- just make sure you load our Browns app on your phone, it will make it easy! So what if I don't want to? That shouldn't be a necessity to go to one of the games I'm paying you $110 for. I was getting daily notifications from the Texans I had to waste time deleting, before I removed their app I'm around 95% certain I'll never use again, and my Texans ticket account...
I'm having my lifelong good pal call the Browns CSR (he's the ticket holder of record) to ask them what they plan on doing if you don't own a smartphone. It will create a hassle for him transferring my two tickets over from his account. I could pay the $50 bucks and have the tickets put in my name, but then I'd lose all of our 35+ years of seniority... And thinking about it- won't framing that QR code on the wall when the Browns get to their first playoff game bring back fond memories? NOT!!!
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OK, Rant over....
And I'm not happy. As I expected, Jimmuh is making up for lost time raising prices. The speculated 7% is low in our case. Went from $95 to $110. That's not what's bothering me.
Going to all digital tickets? That's a problem for us oldsters. A little background history. I don't consider myself a computer illiterate. I took several college level courses on computer operating systems and ancillary software programs. But this past year going to the Texans game was another story. Had to get a digital ticket to the game from Vivid Seats. It only took me around four hours spread over two days, two calls to the Texans ticket office, and loading the Houston Texans app on my phone- which I hated to do (I try to keep my phone as app free as humanly possible) to finally say- mission accomplished. Easy? Like hell!!!! Hey Browns fans- just make sure you load our Browns app on your phone, it will make it easy! So what if I don't want to? That shouldn't be a necessity to go to one of the games I'm paying you $110 for. I was getting daily notifications from the Texans I had to waste time deleting, before I removed their app I'm around 95% certain I'll never use again, and my Texans ticket account...
I'm having my lifelong good pal call the Browns CSR (he's the ticket holder of record) to ask them what they plan on doing if you don't own a smartphone. It will create a hassle for him transferring my two tickets over from his account. I could pay the $50 bucks and have the tickets put in my name, but then I'd lose all of our 35+ years of seniority... And thinking about it- won't framing that QR code on the wall when the Browns get to their first playoff game bring back fond memories? NOT!!!
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OK, Rant over....
My seats remained the same, and at $155 each I was glad. I don't even know what they mean by digital tickets.
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Just screenshot your ticket...
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I was going to say the same. I know what a digital ticket is. Pull up your account the day before and screenshot the tickets. Don't wait to do it half drunk, standing in the rain while in line.
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I talked to my rep. today. He explained that 20 teams went this way last year and the NFL is making the others do the same. There will be no more printed tickets for NFL games. There is a big problem with print at home tickets. People can make multiple copies and sell them. The first one to get to the gate is the winner, the other stuck at the gate holding a sheet of paper for which they just paid $100.
All of your tickets will be loaded in to your account.. Pull them up as you need them. I'd screen shot them the night before so you aren't dicking around while half drunk trying to access you account.
Go access your account and you will find it pretty easy. No tickets are loaded at this point, but it looks pretty easy.
Go to your account and snoop around.
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I kept all my printed tics in '18 & used my cell to enter. IMHO, it's EASIER! Believe me, I'm no "techie".
Mike
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I kept all my printed tics in '18 & used my cell to enter. IMHO, it's EASIER! Believe me, I'm no "techie".
Mike
I kept all my printed tics in '18 & used my cell to enter. IMHO, it's EASIER! Believe me, I'm no "techie".
Mike
I have no idea how anything is easier than taking a ticket out of your pocket and handing it to the ticket taker.
This doesn't make life easier for us. It makes life easier for the Browns/Indians/Cavs/etc.
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I kept all my printed tics in '18 & used my cell to enter. IMHO, it's EASIER! Believe me, I'm no "techie".
Mike
I have no idea how anything is easier than taking a ticket out of your pocket and handing it to the ticket taker.
This doesn't make life easier for us. It makes life easier for the Browns/Indians/Cavs/etc.
I have no idea how anything is easier than taking a ticket out of your pocket and handing it to the ticket taker.
This doesn't make life easier for us. It makes life easier for the Browns/Indians/Cavs/etc.
It makes life easier for me I just won’t go except on rare occasions
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I talked to my rep. today. He explained that 20 teams went this way last year and the NFL is making the others do the same. There will be no more printed tickets for NFL games. There is a big problem with print at home tickets. People can make multiple copies and sell them. The first one to get to the gate is the winner, the other stuck at the gate holding a sheet of paper for which they just paid $100.
All of your tickets will be loaded in to your account.. Pull them up as you need them. I'd screen shot them the night before so you aren't dicking around while half drunk trying to access you account.
Go access your account and you will find it pretty easy. No tickets are loaded at this point, but it looks pretty easy.
Go to your account and snoop around.
I talked to my rep. today. He explained that 20 teams went this way last year and the NFL is making the others do the same. There will be no more printed tickets for NFL games. There is a big problem with print at home tickets. People can make multiple copies and sell them. The first one to get to the gate is the winner, the other stuck at the gate holding a sheet of paper for which they just paid $100.
All of your tickets will be loaded in to your account.. Pull them up as you need them. I'd screen shot them the night before so you aren't dicking around while half drunk trying to access your account.
Go access your account and you will find it pretty easy. No tickets are loaded at this point, but it looks pretty easy.
Go to your account and snoop around.
That's sort of what I figured Russ... It does make it harder to sell bogus tickets- but not impossible....
I'll give you a "what if". You put your ticket(s) up for sale on any of the the resale sites... Someone buys them, proceeds to screen shot them, and forward them to 10 different people... Same difference, first guy gets in- the others are screwed... It would make it a damn sight easier to trace back to where the original ticket came from though....
So I guess the word of warning is be mighty careful who you're forwarding a ticket to....
Oh well, for us nostalgia folks, they could have said print at home tickets will no longer be accepted- originals only- the ones embossed with holograms that can't be duplicated.
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I kept all my printed tics in '18 & used my cell to enter. IMHO, it's EASIER! Believe me, I'm no "techie".
Mike
I have no idea how anything is easier than taking a ticket out of your pocket and handing it to the ticket taker.
This doesn't make life easier for us. It makes life easier for the Browns/Indians/Cavs/etc.
I have no idea how anything is easier than taking a ticket out of your pocket and handing it to the ticket taker.
This doesn't make life easier for us. It makes life easier for the Browns/Indians/Cavs/etc.
Not to mention cheaper... no mailing and printing costs....
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I talked to my rep. today. He explained that 20 teams went this way last year and the NFL is making the others do the same. There will be no more printed tickets for NFL games. There is a big problem with print at home tickets. People can make multiple copies and sell them. The first one to get to the gate is the winner, the other stuck at the gate holding a sheet of paper for which they just paid $100.
All of your tickets will be loaded in to your account.. Pull them up as you need them. I'd screen shot them the night before so you aren't dicking around while half drunk trying to access your account.
Go access your account and you will find it pretty easy. No tickets are loaded at this point, but it looks pretty easy.
Go to your account and snoop around.
That's sort of what I figured Russ... It does make it harder to sell bogus tickets- but not impossible....
I'll give you a "what if". You put your ticket(s) up for sale on any of the the resale sites... Someone buys them, proceeds to screen shot them, and forward them to 10 different people... Same difference, first guy gets in- the others are screwed... It would make it a damn sight easier to trace back to where the original ticket came from though....
So I guess the word of warning is be mighty careful who you're forwarding a ticket to....
Oh well, for us nostalgia folks, they could have said print at home tickets will no longer be accepted- originals only- the ones embossed with holograms that can't be duplicated.
That's sort of what I figured Russ... It does make it harder to sell bogus tickets- but not impossible....
I'll give you a "what if". You put your ticket(s) up for sale on any of the the resale sites... Someone buys them, proceeds to screen shot them, and forward them to 10 different people... Same difference, first guy gets in- the others are screwed... It would make it a damn sight easier to trace back to where the original ticket came from though....
So I guess the word of warning is be mighty careful who you're forwarding a ticket to....
Oh well, for us nostalgia folks, they could have said print at home tickets will no longer be accepted- originals only- the ones embossed with holograms that can't be duplicated.
Not all tickets look like season tickets. The ones you would buy for single game entry are just computer printed tickets. The aren't embossed or have fancy graphics. Every year I buy a few for family or friends. Someone with some skills could print out a bunch of those.
I think this was done as a security measure with the cost of printing a minor point, though you know the printing of tickets as fancy as our season tickets is expensive. That printer in Arkansas prints all the big event tickets because not many places are capable. They are probably still being used to generate these tickets across the league.
I have never saved ticket stubs, but I know many people do. I guess those days are over.
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I have never saved ticket stubs, but I know many people do. I guess those days are over.
So....a game day ticket stub is going to be a hot item in the memorabilia market before long?
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I have never saved ticket stubs, but I know many people do. I guess those days are over.
So....a game day ticket stub is going to be a hot item in the memorabilia market before long?
I have never saved ticket stubs, but I know many people do. I guess those days are over.
So....a game day ticket stub is going to be a hot item in the memorabilia market before long?
I save a few. Haven't framed my Indians World Series tickets from the 90s yet.
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I have never saved ticket stubs, but I know many people do. I guess those days are over.
So....a game day ticket stub is going to be a hot item in the memorabilia market before long?
I save a few. Haven't framed my Indians World Series tickets from the 90s yet.
I save a few. Haven't framed my Indians World Series tickets from the 90s yet.
I have most all of my Indy 500 tickets (19 years in a row so far) but other than that I don't have many ticket stubs. I found one of my Browns tickets from when I was a kid and we had season tickets. Browns/Steelers game, old stadium. Section 36, Row U Seat 24, lower deck. I remember we were on the aisle and right around the 50 yard line on the visitors side of the field. Face value including tax was $27 on the ticket. No idea what year the ticket is from though.
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Those lowers are undervalued compared to other team prices. I looked up your section and cost...a similar seat in Atlanta is $1750 per seat.
As time goes on, I would expect you will see your seat price increase another 45% over the next 5-6 years.
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Those lowers are undervalued compared to other team prices. I looked up your section and cost...a similar seat in Atlanta is $1750 per seat.
As time goes on, I would expect you will see your seat price increase another 45% over the next 5-6 years.
Those lowers are undervalued compared to other team prices. I looked up your section and cost...a similar seat in Atlanta is $1750 per seat.
As time goes on, I would expect you will see your seat price increase another 45% over the next 5-6 years.
Longer term with a winning record I agree with you. Taking a 30% increase and then going 1-31 should have bought a year or two after the first decent season in years IMO. We also got no relief on price when they cut pricing for many due to the turd of a product presented.
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I was fortunate to not get an increase this year. In fact during the last price adjustment my price went down. So for now I'm ahead in the game. I've been using the mobile entry for two seasons now. Opening day this past year, in the torrential downpour, the scanners that got wet all malfunctioned. Fans just said the hell with it and walked right past the scanners. Another time the app would not load, my guess was due to overload of the bandwidth. That was the Cree Lighting gate. Somebody mentioned adding tickets to the wallet, I need to figure out how to do that.
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I was fortunate to not get an increase this year. In fact during the last price adjustment my price went down. So for now I'm ahead in the game. I've been using the mobile entry for two seasons now. Opening day this past year, in the torrential downpour, the scanners that got wet all malfunctioned. Fans just said the hell with it and walked right past the scanners. Another time the app would not load, my guess was due to overload of the bandwidth. That was the Cree Lighting gate. Somebody mentioned adding tickets to the wallet, I need to figure out how to do that.
I was fortunate to not get an increase this year. In fact during the last price adjustment my price went down. So for now I'm ahead in the game. I've been using the mobile entry for two seasons now. Opening day this past year, in the torrential downpour, the scanners that got wet all malfunctioned. Fans just said the hell with it and walked right past the scanners. Another time the app would not load, my guess was due to overload of the bandwidth. That was the Cree Lighting gate. Somebody mentioned adding tickets to the wallet, I need to figure out how to do that.
Not sure what you mean adding tickets to the wallet.
My thinking is screen shot them maybe the night before. If you do that you won't have to worry about bandwidth at the stadium. You are pulling them up from your camera picture file.
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