Browns sign Kareem Hunt

[The Gipper]

@beare said:

great talent just wonder the pr nightmare and the female fanbase effect.

hopefully it doesnt effect chubb

No worse than the  100 other players who are now playing that have been charged with some kind of crime.  

Remember....his case does NOT fall into the domestic abuse category.   He didn't even know this woman apparently.  And strictly....Domestic abuse can only be committed on someone you are related to or living with.   This would be just a plain criminal assault case.  Now....is it worse because it was the assault of a woman.  Not legally....legally it would not matter if it was a male or a female he assaulted.      But, of course, it looks much worse when it appears that he assaults a woman.  Because honestly....this society still really holds what can only be called sexist views on subjects of this nature.

If a man gets into an argument and then a fight with a man (who he is not related to or live with)....we do not consider that as aggregious  as when a man gets into an argument and then a fight with a woman (who...again, he is not related to or lives with).   And why not?  Protective sexist attitudes toward women.

I am certainly NOT defending what he did.....I am just explaining the difference in the reaction to what he did than if it were a male on male confrontation.

[The Gipper]

@vagitron said:

The league didn’t suspend him, he got cut.

I think there was more to it than that, wasn't there?

[The Gipper]

Again.....not legally considered domestic violence:

2919.25 Domestic violence.

(A) No person shall knowingly cause or attempt to cause physical harm to a family or household member.

(B) No person shall recklessly cause serious physical harm to a family or household member.

(C) No person, by threat of force, shall knowingly cause a family or household member to believe that the offender will cause imminent physical harm to the family or household member.

(D)

(1) Whoever violates this section is guilty of domestic violence, and the court shall sentence the offender as provided in divisions (D)(2) to (6) of this section.

[hoorta]

@the-gipper said:

I think there was more to it than that, wasn't there?

It wasn't so much the assault, IIRC, it's he lied about it to Management... Or at the least tried to minimize it...  

Here ya go, per CNN...  "As part of our internal discussions with Kareem, several members of our management team spoke directly to him. Kareem was not truthful in those discussions," the Chiefs said via Twitter. "The video released today confirms that fact. We are releasing Kareem immediately."

[choco]

^^

[bjh2130]

Chubb already contacted Dorsey and asked for a trade. Dorsey asked him why? He said you guys just signed a guy that's going to take all my snaps.

Dorsey told him no you got it all wrong we needed a great kickher. If we had one last year we would have been in playoffs.

[The Gipper]

And, apparently, Hunt has not even been charged in the incident that was caught on tape.   (not because he couldn't be...but because the victim apparently will not cooperate):

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2808876-woman-in-kareem-hunt-altercation-reportedly-not-cooperating-with-prosecutors

Also note:    this article says he is put on the "Exempt list".  

How in helll do you consider being put on the "exempt list" as anything other than a suspension?

[Ibleedbrown]

@hoorta said:

All l will say is that John Dorsey is one silver tongued devil. My first reaction was ”Scandalous!!” But then l read his statement and somehow, someway everything makes sense. 

[The Gipper]

@hoorta said:

It wasn't so much the assault, IIRC, it's he lied about it to Management... Or at the least tried to minimize it...  

Here ya go, per CNN...  "As part of our internal discussions with Kareem, several members of our management team spoke directly to him. Kareem was not truthful in those discussions," the Chiefs said via Twitter. "The video released today confirms that fact. We are releasing Kareem immediately."

OK....but Vagitron made it out like  Hunt being released was the only reason he didn't play much last year.

But...I am saying that if you are on an Exempt list....that means you are fucking suspended.  It would be semantics.    A rose by any other name would be just as sweet, a lemon by any other name would be just as sour.

[hoorta]

@the-gipper said:

OK....but Vagitron made it out like  Hunt being released was the only reason he didn't play much last year.

But...I am saying that if you are on an Exempt list....that means you are fucking suspended.  It would be semantics.    A rose by any other name would be just as sweet, a lemon by any other name would be just as sour.

More research Gipper... He was put on the exempt list November 30th, meaning he would have been ineligible the last five games of the 2018 season...  According to Rappoport, the NFL still hasn't finished their "investigation". Seriously- just how long can something like that take?  

Not hard to find the video on TMZ, if you want to make up your mind...  His posse was trying to restrain him- which looks bad, he wasn't listening to common sense...  Mostly shoving, and then kicking the chick on the ground...  

[ATOM]

@the-gipper said:

OK....but Vagitron made it out like  Hunt being released was the only reason he didn't play much last year.

But...I am saying that if you are on an Exempt list....that means you are fucking suspended.  It would be semantics.    A rose by any other name would be just as sweet, a lemon by any other name would be just as sour.

you would think that they would take last years games missed into consideration one very cool thing i have not seen mentioned is that we only signed him to a one year contract and after that he is a RFA so will retain his rights 

[darren15]

Baking up Turnovers said:

Wow. Does this team have no morals or ethics anymore? First they decide to draft a QB who's running from cops and grabbing his stuff and now they are signing a woman beater. 

The moron returns ......

[The Gipper]

Baking up Turnovers said:

Wow. Does this team have no morals or ethics anymore? First they decide to draft a QB who's running from cops and grabbing his stuff and now they are signing a woman beater. 

You are such a fucking **MASK**.  It means that they....just like every single one of the 31 other NFL teams have programs in place for people of talent who have gone off the rail.  They will assist them to get back on the straight track. 

I see Hunt as simple being a mirror reflection of yourself:   You have come in here and have committed aggregious offenses......yet...you are still here being given a chance to redeem yourself.

You should take stock....and see yourself in his situation. 

[LBC mike]

Nice pick up.  Maybe..

[Nero]

Interesting news... I hope that he can make up for the chance he is given. I'm excited. This could be huge, or a low risk failure.

[Louisville Slugger]

What does this mean for Duke Johnson? I have always felt we under used him in the first place and now he will be lucky to get 5 touches a game. What is his trade value a 5th rounder?

[Nero]

@louisville-slugger said:

What does this mean for Duke Johnson? I have always felt we under used him in the first place and now he will be lucky to get 5 touches a game. What is his trade value a 5th rounder?

I'd say that nowadays Duke is more like a 3rd down RB who sometimes runs the ball. I'll never complain about having too many good players in a group...

[choco]

@louisville-slugger said:

What does this mean for Duke Johnson? I have always felt we under used him in the first place and now he will be lucky to get 5 touches a game. What is his trade value a 5th rounder?

Why trade him? Is there some wrong with having good depth players?

[CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS]

Never hurts to have a 3 headed RB machine.. playing for a good deal at that.. they’ll probably be making way less the LeVeon combined 

[Tour2ma]

Assuming Hunt is cleared to play we improved our Offense and our STs...

I wonder how Duke will do in NE?