Browns sign Kareem Hunt
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Who hasn't given a hooker a love tap kick after she leaves? ?
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Who hasn't given a hooker a love tap kick after she leaves? ?
yeah but that's not what happened. Im assuming you're talking about Hunt right? Cause what happened in that Clev hotel was that chick went off on him cause he wanted to call it a night with him and his girl..im still not exactly clear why that chick went off on him so hard and may have called him the N word, "allegedly"...I mean if all that went down as said...im not condoning what he did, but I undastand!
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No worse than the 100 other players who are now playing that have been charged with some kind of crime.
Remember....his case does NOT fall into the domestic abuse category. He didn't even know this woman apparently. And strictly....Domestic abuse can only be committed on someone you are related to or living with. This would be just a plain criminal assault case. Now....is it worse because it was the assault of a woman. Not legally....legally it would not matter if it was a male or a female he assaulted. But, of course, it looks much worse when it appears that he assaults a woman. Because honestly....this society still really holds what can only be called sexist views on subjects of this nature.
If a man gets into an argument and then a fight with a man (who he is not related to or live with)....we do not consider that as aggregious as when a man gets into an argument and then a fight with a woman (who...again, he is not related to or lives with). And why not? Protective sexist attitudes toward women.
I am certainly NOT defending what he did.....I am just explaining the difference in the reaction to what he did than if it were a male on male confrontation.
Don't know your situation, but from the post here it seems that you see no difference, or would have no opinion one way or the other, if a man assaulted your son vs daughter.
I have no problem with the Browns signing Hunt. I just think that people should use the same rules for a Browns player vs another teams player with chances and benefits. If someone is going to RIP a player for assault or DV, then dont try to qualify for a player on your team. I don't think ANYONE here is trying to defend his actions, that isn't my point. The point is, if he had signed with Steelers I think the talk and outcome of suspension would be different.
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I doubt that. I assume that is all worked out under the CBA. I also assume that an entirely new disciplinary procedure will be worked out in the next CBA.
Before the Ray Rice thing they had nothing in place, since that whole media shit-storm they have implemented a framework on how to deal with Domestic Violence. But you said it yourself and are correct this isn't Domestic Violence. His on tape kicking some racist bitch while she was the ground while his boys are trying to hold him back. What does he get for that I dunno? Does Roger know? The only thing his been consistence at is being inconsistence. Doubt he gets time served because of optics of it. With that said we have by far the best backfield in the league. Go Browns!!!
Before the Ray Rice thing they had nothing in place, since that whole media shit-storm they have implemented a framework on how to deal with Domestic Violence. But you said it yourself and are correct this isn't Domestic Violence. His on tape kicking some racist bitch while she was the ground while his boys are trying to hold him back. What does he get for that I dunno? Does Roger know? The only thing his been consistence at is being inconsistence. Doubt he gets time served because of optics of it. With that said we have by far the best backfield in the league. Go Browns!!!
Of course he was probably called the N-word 5000 times that same day by his posse
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Baking up Turnovers said:
Proof?
Look down
Look down
Lol.
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Baking up Turnovers said:
Proof?
The proof is you're copping a "holier than thou" attitude about any player that doesn't have a squeaky clean resume. So buy a clue a significant percentage of players in the NFL fail to measure up to your standards. LOL, if no one ever screwed up in their lives, the divorce rate should be zero.
Josh sakes- pun intended- we gave Gordon damn near unlimited chances to fly right- and now you want to crucify Hunt after one mistake? Athletic talent gets you those second- or tenth chances. Hunt led the league in rushing- in case you forgot.
Personally, I'm willing to buy Kareem's apology as sincere- until proven otherwise. He's on a zero tolerance contract. Dorsey will cut him in two seconds if he screws up again.
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I don't like woman beaters. I don't like abusive people. I don't reach the point of wishing them hell, but I don't like them.
Having said that, these guys play in a very violent sport, where the alpha men are praised and they get paid a lot of money. I can see them derailing and acting like that, mostly when they have reached that level through working their bodies out. Many people lose their mind when they become millionaires, so I don't know what we expect from them, really.
The only thing we should care about is his performance. The rest, like in any other job (I think bjh said it) is superfluous. Did he commit a crime? He should be punished. But I am nobody to judge that.
Likewise, we shouldn't be surprised or pissed when the same happens in other teams and other players. It's all about sports, all about business. I don't seek moral references in football.
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We don't know that but- no charges were filed. MY POV is it takes one hell of a man to just walk away after some chick starts calling you names and slaps you in the face- especially if you've had more than a few drinks...
And on testosterone most likely. I have to think the majority of these guys are using peds. Top athletes can get around tests.
I don't think the general public realizes how the NFL environment conditions you to be as aggressive as possible. Being in that environment all the time.... When the drinks start going, and party girls get involved, you know crazy shits going down
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What does this mean for Duke Johnson? I have always felt we under used him in the first place and now he will be lucky to get 5 touches a game. What is his trade value a 5th rounder?
I think nothing happens until 2020. If Kareem stays clean and we resign to multi-year deal, then Duke probably gets shipped out in 2020. If Kareem screws up we still have Duke. So I wouldn't expect anything to happen with the RBs until 2020 outside of Hilliard being released once Hunt is eligible.
I think nothing happens until 2020. If Kareem stays clean and we resign to multi-year deal, then Duke probably gets shipped out in 2020. If Kareem screws up we still have Duke. So I wouldn't expect anything to happen with the RBs until 2020 outside of Hilliard being released once Hunt is eligible.
When he does turn out for us imagine our offense with a top quality receiver added .... either FA or draft ...... if the Steelers were not in our division I could see Dorsey deffo moving for Antonio Brown ....... maybe OBJ is on the cards ?
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This is a bit of a questionable signing..
We have depth at RB with Duke and Dayes.
Yeah I know Hunt is a good RB, a great one even, but Chubb was exceptional in his rookie season..
IF Kareem can keep his name out of the news and his foot out of women's faces, then this might work out..
But until then, I remain skeptical of this.. I hope I am wrong though and he comes back and lights it up out there.
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Local kid with a 2nd chance. I hope he makes the most of it. Reading the stool drool and hypocrites is funny.
Go Browns
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This is a bit of a questionable signing..
We have depth at RB with Duke and Dayes.
Yeah I know Hunt is a good RB, a great one even, but Chubb was exceptional in his rookie season..
IF Kareem can keep his name out of the news and his foot out of women's faces, then this might work out..
But until then, I remain skeptical of this.. I hope I am wrong though and he comes back and lights it up out there.
We have depth at RB with Duke and Dayes.
Hilliard...Dayes was let go last year and got picked up by another team. Hilliard got some quicks, but he's just not on hunts level.
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A rapist has 2 Superbowl wins.
Way different point.
The point I am making is if he had signed with Steelers, or another player on Patriots had the same issue, would everyone say the same things about him? If history is correct, then no.
I'll look at it like this, and it's not to call someone out. But there has been talk that his games missed already should count as his punishment. If Hunt had signed with Pittsburgh, would people be adamant that they should count?
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Hunting a chubby Johnson. Ladies... feel free to use it next season in FF.
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A rapist has 2 Superbowl wins.
Way different point.
The point I am making is if he had signed with Steelers, or another player on Patriots had the same issue, would everyone say the same things about him? If history is correct, then no.
I'll look at it like this, and it's not to call someone out. But there has been talk that his games missed already should count as his punishment. If Hunt had signed with Pittsburgh, would people be adamant that they should count?
The point I am making is if he had signed with Steelers, or another player on Patriots had the same issue, would everyone say the same things about him? If history is correct, then no.
not to be a dick, but its not a very good point. toss out a hypothetical that cannot be proven under the circumstances, make a bold claim that also cannot be proven or verified. what history? are you going to provide it? because the end conclusion of your point is that all football fans are like minded, do not have individual thoughts or feelings, and lack nuance in examining situations with different circumstances. how is it that you seem to know everyone else's thoughts on something that hasn't even happened?
But there has been talk that his games missed already should count as his punishment.
by one member of this board. but to hear you tell it, its common internet chatter. why would you need to exaggerate that?
sorry...i dont see any relevance to this point youre making. as if the observation that fans will typically tolerate more negativity for their own team than other teams is some new revelation...congrats, you discovered humanity's fickle nature.
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Baking up Turnovers said:
Proof?
The proof is you're copping a "holier than thou" attitude about any player that doesn't have a squeaky clean resume. So buy a clue a significant percentage of players in the NFL fail to measure up to your standards. LOL, if no one ever screwed up in their lives, the divorce rate should be zero.
Josh sakes- pun intended- we gave Gordon damn near unlimited chances to fly right- and now you want to crucify Hunt after one mistake? Athletic talent gets you those second- or tenth chances. Hunt led the league in rushing- in case you forgot.
Personally, I'm willing to buy Kareem's apology as sincere- until proven otherwise. He's on a zero tolerance contract. Dorsey will cut him in two seconds if he screws up again.
Personally, I'm willing to buy Kareem's apology as sincere- until proven otherwise. He's on a zero tolerance contract. Dorsey will cut him in two seconds if he screws up again.
That's basically where I am. Hopefully he uses the fact that he was out of a job and out of the league as a wake up call and doesn't do anything like this again. He deserves a 2nd chance but certainly not a third.
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Duke can't be happy with the snaps hes getting and now we bring in a Hunt to take away even more playing time. He is going to be nothing more then depth and special teams at this point. Granted hes making like 5 mil a year and hes not destroying his body.
First and foremost, look into kitchens use or 3 RB sets and wing T. Considering Duke and hunts ability to catch the ball, having a stable of versatile backs allows for an immense amount of offensive creativity. Baker spreads the ball around anyway, so if Duke values stats over winning, he can go.
Depth isn't a bad thing. In this case, hunts getting some type of suspension. 4...6...8 games ... Who knows maybe more. Under no circumstances is Duke going anywhere until there's a replacement and hunt gets on the field. Hyde hung around till they were sure Chubb was good to go. By the time hunts ready, we're in a playoff push, hunt has fresh legs, no one has any film on his usage, and dukes already gonna have an established role.
First and foremost, look into kitchens use or 3 RB sets and wing T. Considering Duke and hunts ability to catch the ball, having a stable of versatile backs allows for an immense amount of offensive creativity. Baker spreads the ball around anyway, so if Duke values stats over winning, he can go.
Depth isn't a bad thing. In this case, hunts getting some type of suspension. 4...6...8 games ... Who knows maybe more. Under no circumstances is Duke going anywhere until there's a replacement and hunt gets on the field. Hyde hung around till they were sure Chubb was good to go. By the time hunts ready, we're in a playoff push, hunt has fresh legs, no one has any film on his usage, and dukes already gonna have an established role.
I didnt even think about the potential of a 3 rb set. Imagining Duke and Hunt running little flare routes and Chubb hammering it up the guts is damned near impossible to stop.
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