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  • @darren15 said:

    Dont see them keeping Chase Keenum's salary on the books ..... will probably be cut

    Keenum can go bridge a rookie or backup a real starter somewhere, which is what his ceiling is.

    The Broncos now can find their QB of the future while Flacco keeps them competive with a good defense. Kinda like he was with the Ravens.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Keenum can go bridge a rookie or backup a real starter somewhere, which is what his ceiling is.

    The Broncos now can find their QB of the future while Flacco keeps them competive with a good defense. Kinda like he was with the Ravens.

    Zombo

    What's surprising to me Z, is the Redskins didn't make a serious offer- or got out bidded or not enough cap room. Smith isn't playing this year, or maybe ever again. With that ilizarov device still on his leg months after the injury tells me that leg was shattered. They have our old pal Colt McCoy, so connect the dots.

  • It is a surprise for me, I didn't think of the Broncos as a possible destination for Flacco, but it may work for both parts. If it doesn't, I think Elway will lose all the credit he had: how many quaterbacks has he brought as starters? The only one that worked was Peyton freaking Manning. 

    @nero said:

    It is a surprise for me, I didn't think of the Broncos as a possible destination for Flacco, but it may work for both parts. If it doesn't, I think Elway will lose all the credit he had: how many quaterbacks has he brought as starters? The only one that worked was Peyton freaking Manning. 

    Well....to be fair. Peyton had only won 1 SB until he was picked up by the Broncos.   I see Elway trying to accomplish the same as with the Manning pickup.....see if a guy that has been there, done that once can do it again.

  • Zombo said:

    Keenum can go bridge a rookie or backup a real starter somewhere, which is what his ceiling is.

    The Broncos now can find their QB of the future while Flacco keeps them competive with a good defense. Kinda like he was with the Ravens.

    Zombo

    What's surprising to me Z, is the Redskins didn't make a serious offer- or got out bidded or not enough cap room. Smith isn't playing this year, or maybe ever again. With that ilizarov device still on his leg months after the injury tells me that leg was shattered. They have our old pal Colt McCoy, so connect the dots.

    @hoorta said:

    What's surprising to me Z, is the Redskins didn't make a serious offer- or got out bidded or not enough cap room. Smith isn't playing this year, or maybe ever again. With that ilizarov device still on his leg months after the injury tells me that leg was shattered. They have our old pal Colt McCoy, so connect the dots.

    I have not seen it.   What DID the Broncos give up to get Flacco?

  • @hoorta said:

    What's surprising to me Z, is the Redskins didn't make a serious offer- or got out bidded or not enough cap room. Smith isn't playing this year, or maybe ever again. With that ilizarov device still on his leg months after the injury tells me that leg was shattered. They have our old pal Colt McCoy, so connect the dots.

    I have not seen it.   What DID the Broncos give up to get Flacco?

    @the-gipper said:

    I have not seen it.   What DID the Broncos give up to get Flacco?

    Nothing official. Reported to be a mid round pick. Don't forget, nothing is official until March.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I have not seen it.   What DID the Broncos give up to get Flacco?

    Nothing official. Reported to be a mid round pick. Don't forget, nothing is official until March.

    @hoorta said:

    Nothing official. Reported to be a mid round pick. Don't forget, nothing is official until March.

    I heard that earlier today and was thinking, 'The trade deadline passed.  And it's not the new league year until mid-March'.

  • Ravens are banking the rest of the NFL won’t adjust to Lamar.

    Plus , it’s only a matter of time he gets injured.

    we should have swept the ratbirds last season... we got hosed. Now that we are more respectable - look for that Raiders fiasco and other horrible officiating to swing in our favor.

    (one can dream)

    Bermeck 

    @bermeck08 said:

    Ravens are banking the rest of the NFL won’t adjust to Lamar.

    Plus , it’s only a matter of time he gets injured.

    we should have swept the ratbirds last season... we got hosed. Now that we are more respectable - look for that Raiders fiasco and other horrible officiating to swing in our favor.

    (one can dream)

    Bermeck 

    Banking on Jackson is, IMHO, one HUGE mistake for the Ravens, but great for the Browns.

    Mike

  • @the-gipper said:

    I have not seen it.   What DID the Broncos give up to get Flacco?

    Nothing official. Reported to be a mid round pick. Don't forget, nothing is official until March.

    @hoorta said:

    Nothing official. Reported to be a mid round pick. Don't forget, nothing is official until March.

    Rumor is a 4th

  • I heard 4th round pick. But some think this is an upgrade. I do not. Flacco is older, less mobile, injury prone, and actually had worse stats and performance then Keenum over the past several years. Plus his Salary is huge. I have several friends that are going ape-$hi! over this. But it couldn't have happened to a better franchise. 

  • 68IU.gif    Still stings a bit Elway? Denver ranked 8th in most pass attempts last season. Denver also ranked #22 in sacks allowing 34..Fangio's best coaching hire was his OL coach Munchak from the berg..It's early, but Denver got better starting with Fangio..Not Elway

  • Elway's QB expertise ain't holding up so well...

    Word is that Flacco saw Jackson as the team's future and basically ceased to give a shit about the Ravens. Stopped working with WRs after practice... never helped Jackson... and at 34 he's not playing forever.

    Great move, John!

  • I heard 4th round pick. But some think this is an upgrade. I do not. Flacco is older, less mobile, injury prone, and actually had worse stats and performance then Keenum over the past several years. Plus his Salary is huge. I have several friends that are going ape-$hi! over this. But it couldn't have happened to a better franchise. 

    @5150k9 said:

    I heard 4th round pick. But some think this is an upgrade. I do not. Flacco is older, less mobile, injury prone, and actually had worse stats and performance then Keenum over the past several years. Plus his Salary is huge. I have several friends that are going ape-$hi! over this. But it couldn't have happened to a better franchise. 

    ^^^ That, and this....   https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-the-broncos-reported-plan-for-case-keenum-after-pulling-off-surprising-trade-for-joe-flacco/

    @tour2ma said:

    Elway's QB expertise ain't holding up so well...

    Word is that Flacco saw Jackson as the team's future and basically ceased to give a shit about the Ravens. Stopped working with WRs after practice... never helped Jackson... and at 34 he's not playing forever.

    Great move, John!

    See the link above Tour.... Even if they manage to move Keenum, it's gonna cost 'em...   🙂 

  • @bermeck08 said:

    Ravens are banking the rest of the NFL won’t adjust to Lamar.

    Plus , it’s only a matter of time he gets injured.

    we should have swept the ratbirds last season... we got hosed. Now that we are more respectable - look for that Raiders fiasco and other horrible officiating to swing in our favor.

    (one can dream)

    Bermeck 

    Banking on Jackson is, IMHO, one HUGE mistake for the Ravens, but great for the Browns.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Banking on Jackson is, IMHO, one HUGE mistake for the Ravens, but great for the Browns.

    Mike

    It will be interesting or maybe just fun to see who ends up being the best quarterback in the AFCN in 2019 season.  😉

    Sounds like a question for Dutch's '19 Browns.

  • This tells me that Denver is going QB in this draft.. Maybe Haskins or Murray?

  • This tells me that Denver is going QB in this draft.. Maybe Haskins or Murray?

    @domcucch1994 said:

    This tells me that Denver is going QB in this draft.. Maybe Haskins or Murray?

    Please,  Jesus,  let it be Murray. 

  • I almost forgot about Flacco's fat contract. . .

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  • I almost forgot about Flacco's fat contract. . .

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    @canton-dawg said:

    I almost forgot about Flacco's fat contract. . .

    If you look at the link I posted, Keenum has an equally fat contract. Guaranteed $25 million, that the Broncos are still on the hook for $7 million of, with a $10 million dead cap. Can't see Denver keeping him around as a $18 million backup.

    As one of the previous posters said, is Flacco really that much of an upgrade? 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    I almost forgot about Flacco's fat contract. . .

    If you look at the link I posted, Keenum has an equally fat contract. Guaranteed $25 million, that the Broncos are still on the hook for $7 million of, with a $10 million dead cap. Can't see Denver keeping him around as a $18 million backup.

    As one of the previous posters said, is Flacco really that much of an upgrade? 

    @hoorta said:

    If you look at the link I posted, Keenum has an equally fat contract. Guaranteed $25 million, that the Broncos are still on the hook for $7 million of, with a $10 million dead cap. Can't see Denver keeping him around as a $18 million backup.

    As one of the previous posters said, is Flacco really that much of an upgrade? 

    Saw several sports talk shows on this subject, and the collective answer was:   NO, not really

  • QB Veteran Carousel:

    One player jumped off one horse and on to another:  Flacco....off the merry go round...on to the Broncos.

    Now what about:

    Foles.     Redskins could be a good place for him....but Eagles would never trade him in-division.

    Tannehill could either be had in trade....or end up on the street.

    Bortles....see Tannehill

    Keenum....will he just be kept by Denver....or will he be put on the block.

    Carr.....some say he may be traded.

    Rosen.....more than one said that  Cards will take  Murray....and trade Rosen....possibly to the Pats.

    Tyrod Taylor....is a FA.    Where could he land?  Back here?  (makes some sense)

    Teddy Twatwater....not sure if he is FA or not.    Miami/Jax/DC could be landing spots. 

    Sam Bradford....is available if anyone wants him.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick....the same.

    Eli Manning.    He will be safe with the Giants.....until they possibly draft Hankins.....and use Eli as a bridge QB.

    Anyone else?

  • QB Veteran Carousel:

    One player jumped off one horse and on to another:  Flacco....off the merry go round...on to the Broncos.

    Now what about:

    Foles.     Redskins could be a good place for him....but Eagles would never trade him in-division.

    Tannehill could either be had in trade....or end up on the street.

    Bortles....see Tannehill

    Keenum....will he just be kept by Denver....or will he be put on the block.

    Carr.....some say he may be traded.

    Rosen.....more than one said that  Cards will take  Murray....and trade Rosen....possibly to the Pats.

    Tyrod Taylor....is a FA.    Where could he land?  Back here?  (makes some sense)

    Teddy Twatwater....not sure if he is FA or not.    Miami/Jax/DC could be landing spots. 

    Sam Bradford....is available if anyone wants him.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick....the same.

    Eli Manning.    He will be safe with the Giants.....until they possibly draft Hankins.....and use Eli as a bridge QB.

    Anyone else?

    @the-gipper said:

    QB Veteran Carousel:

    One player jumped off one horse and on to another:  Flacco....off the merry go round...on to the Broncos.

    Now what about:

    Foles.     Redskins could be a good place for him....but Eagles would never trade him in-division. Jacksonville*, Eagles former OC John Deflippo now OC at Jags 

    Tannehill could either be had in trade....or end up on the street. Now with Flores in house with 5 years, I'd say draft high & best player wins.

    Bortles....see Tannehill....1 year back-up deal elsewhere, not at Jags,maybe Redskins?

    Keenum....will he just be kept by Denver....or will he be put on the block. Too much dough owed to keep in Denver with Flacco, how bout a back-up to Cousins again?

    Carr.....some say he may be traded. Chuckie will come to his senses.BPA.Carr stays 1 more season, than Vegas Drafts from better QB class next season

    Rosen.....more than one said that  Cards will take  Murray....and trade Rosen....possibly to the Pats. The GM in Zona is clueless. He's capable of anything, lean trade

     Tyrod Taylor....is a FA.    Where could he land?  Back here?  (makes some sense) Why does Baltimore make sense now? TT could compete to start. back-up money here? not sure

    Teddy Twatwater....not sure if he is FA or not.    Miami/Jax/DC could be landing spots. Am not sure Teddy gave up cross-dressing? Knee for a leg in DC? Maybe at fair price..

    Sam Bradford....is available if anyone wants him. This guy made more money for completing 8 yard passes than I've ever seen..now living in a van down by the river..

    Ryan Fitzpatrick....the same. Buffalo again..me you & god could play back up QB better than Peterman 😮

    Eli Manning.    He will be safe with the Giants.....until they possibly draft Hankins.....and use Eli as a bridge QB. Davis Webb Sucks canal water..Getelman drafts Haskins

    Anyone else? How good is Drew Stanton on the field in Dorsey's mind? we shall see

    Interesting layout Gip..had to take a swing (surely with a few misses)

  • @the-gipper said:

    QB Veteran Carousel:

    One player jumped off one horse and on to another:  Flacco....off the merry go round...on to the Broncos.

    Now what about:

    Foles.     Redskins could be a good place for him....but Eagles would never trade him in-division. Jacksonville*, Eagles former OC John Deflippo now OC at Jags 

    Tannehill could either be had in trade....or end up on the street. Now with Flores in house with 5 years, I'd say draft high & best player wins.

    Bortles....see Tannehill....1 year back-up deal elsewhere, not at Jags,maybe Redskins?

    Keenum....will he just be kept by Denver....or will he be put on the block. Too much dough owed to keep in Denver with Flacco, how bout a back-up to Cousins again?

    Carr.....some say he may be traded. Chuckie will come to his senses.BPA.Carr stays 1 more season, than Vegas Drafts from better QB class next season

    Rosen.....more than one said that  Cards will take  Murray....and trade Rosen....possibly to the Pats. The GM in Zona is clueless. He's capable of anything, lean trade

     Tyrod Taylor....is a FA.    Where could he land?  Back here?  (makes some sense) Why does Baltimore make sense now? TT could compete to start. back-up money here? not sure

    Teddy Twatwater....not sure if he is FA or not.    Miami/Jax/DC could be landing spots. Am not sure Teddy gave up cross-dressing? Knee for a leg in DC? Maybe at fair price..

    Sam Bradford....is available if anyone wants him. This guy made more money for completing 8 yard passes than I've ever seen..now living in a van down by the river..

    Ryan Fitzpatrick....the same. Buffalo again..me you & god could play back up QB better than Peterman 😮

    Eli Manning.    He will be safe with the Giants.....until they possibly draft Hankins.....and use Eli as a bridge QB. Davis Webb Sucks canal water..Getelman drafts Haskins

    Anyone else? How good is Drew Stanton on the field in Dorsey's mind? we shall see

    Interesting layout Gip..had to take a swing (surely with a few misses)

    @gumby73 said:

    Interesting layout Gip..had to take a swing (surely with a few misses)

    All good input you had there Boss. Would not surprise me if a lot of what you say happens.    And I still think that TT could do no better than to stay here as a backup.  If he doesn't have a clue that his future in this league is as a backup and not a starter...then he is fooling himself.