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  • We 100% need help at corner. Carrie and Mitchell are okay, but why wouldn't you want to upgrade at that position? I wouldn't stop looking for better talent unless we have 2 all-pro corners.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
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  • Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger

    @the-gipper said:

    I say:  yes we do.  

    Until and unless you have a team made up of 22 First Team All Pros.....you always strive to get better...to upgrade your talent, at every position

    Like bringing in Hunt at RB  .....you can say that makes no sense since we have Chubb/Duke.   I say that if we can go 2-3 deep with Pro Bowl caliber talent at every position...why not.

    I agree we need depth at CB, but we only have so many high draft picks. After the first couple of rounds it becomes really difficult to project those players as starters. I would say we need to upgrade DT, WR, OT, before we worry about CB (if we bring back BBC).

    @louisville-slugger said:

    I agree we need depth at CB, but we only have so many high draft picks. After the first couple of rounds it becomes really difficult to project those players as starters. I would say we need to upgrade DT, WR, OT, before we worry about CB (if we bring back BBC).

    I say we get good/better everywhere we can....no matter the position.   If say, a CB is clearly the best player available in the draft, then you take one over what you consider a lesser talent at a position of greater need.   But all things being equal talentwise, you take the place of need.

  • S secondwave

    We 100% need help at corner. Carrie and Mitchell are okay, but why wouldn't you want to upgrade at that position? I wouldn't stop looking for better talent unless we have 2 all-pro corners.

    @secondwave said:

    We 100% need help at corner. Carrie and Mitchell are okay, but why wouldn't you want to upgrade at that position? I wouldn't stop looking for better talent unless we have 2 all-pro corners.

    Sure,   give me Deion Sanders at one CB and Darrell Green at another. 

    (Dixon/Minniefield;   Hayes/Haynes  etc.)

  • Z Zombo

    @louisville-slugger said:

    Do we really need corner? 

    1. Ward- Stud

    2. Carrie- much better suited for the zone scheme Wilks runs. High fiber guy, solid #2

    3. Mitchell- play maker that will give carrie a run for his money for that starting spot.

    4. Boddy-Calhoun- he's a FA but I would love to see him play in Wilks system. Can play safety.

    I like that group alot. If we can bring in someone like Julian Love in the 3rd round, great, but I dont think it's a priority. 

    Ya, we need a corner. I'm assuming Boddy is gone and you can't expect the other three to stay healthy all year long. You gotta have three good ones. Mitchell was brought in because of his abilities as a press corner, but as you say, Wilks runs a lot more zone than Williams.

    I KNOW we need an interior DL, and I KNOW this draft is loaded with them ... but what about using that cap space we have to land a veteran free agent DT, there seems to be a few very good ones and draft another first round corner? I wouldn't be opposed.

    Then go LB and WR with the next two picks,

    It'll be interesting. But to me, I think you can fill an immediate need with free agency and then draft talent at all these depth positions (DB, WR, LB) where you need so many good players to compete these days.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Ya, we need a corner. I'm assuming Boddy is gone and you can't expect the other three to stay healthy all year long. You gotta have three good ones. Mitchell was brought in because of his abilities as a press corner, but as you say, Wilks runs a lot more zone than Williams.

    I KNOW we need an interior DL, and I KNOW this draft is loaded with them ... but what about using that cap space we have to land a veteran free agent DT, there seems to be a few very good ones and draft another first round corner? I wouldn't be opposed.

    Then go LB and WR with the next two picks,

    It'll be interesting. But to me, I think you can fill an immediate need with free agency and then draft talent at all these depth positions (DB, WR, LB) where you need so many good players to compete these days.

    Zombo

    I would love for Williams (bama) to fall down the order some - and have Dorsey go grab him... that dude dominated the interiors of the SEC Olines.

    agree on getting another corner... that’s FA for sure.

    ILB ???? no clue... can’t seem to find anything better than what we currently have, imho.

    Draft I’m guessing DL, OL, WR

    FA - corner, WR, OL

    wouldnt be pissed if we took a flyer at QB as well... Stanton (sp) is a stiff.

    Bermeck (I was dejected when we took Baker... good thing I’m not a GM in the NFL)

  • am i the only one who would love to have Devin White? He looks like he's going to be special. Ray Lewis/Luke Kuechly special.

    tiamat63T Canton MikeC 2 Replies
  • S secondwave

    am i the only one who would love to have Devin White? He looks like he's going to be special. Ray Lewis/Luke Kuechly special.

    @secondwave said:

    am i the only one who would love to have Devin White? He looks like he's going to be special. Ray Lewis/Luke Kuechly special.

    Devin White is the guy that would have me consider putting Schob at the WILL spot.       Yeah, he looks THAT good.

    As for Quinnen Williams...? Forget about it.  That kid is going top 10 barring some crazy run on QB's and Oline. 

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    am i the only one who would love to have Devin White? He looks like he's going to be special. Ray Lewis/Luke Kuechly special.

    @secondwave said:

    am i the only one who would love to have Devin White? He looks like he's going to be special. Ray Lewis/Luke Kuechly special.

    Nope. I would love to see a trade up for him, cuz I believe that's the only way we get him. We'll see.

    Mike

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  • Here's a draft grade on the 2018 draft https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001017724/article/afc-north-rookie-grades-browns-ravens-land-core-performers  let's do it again 🙂 

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  • About Boddy-Calhoun, I think he is a useful piece to have, as he can add depth both at CB and Safety and in my opinion doesn't suppose an unsourmountable step down comparing to the starters. He did some plays when he stepped into the field, IIRC. If we are not overpaying for such a role I would keep him.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @secondwave said:

    am i the only one who would love to have Devin White? He looks like he's going to be special. Ray Lewis/Luke Kuechly special.

    Devin White is the guy that would have me consider putting Schob at the WILL spot.       Yeah, he looks THAT good.

    As for Quinnen Williams...? Forget about it.  That kid is going top 10 barring some crazy run on QB's and Oline. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Devin White is the guy that would have me consider putting Schob at the WILL spot.       Yeah, he looks THAT good.

    As for Quinnen Williams...? Forget about it.  That kid is going top 10 barring some crazy run on QB's and Oline. 

    I think White is a great prospect, but I think Pratt may be the better overall player and better value. White is a great blitzer and a better athlete, but Pratt has better instincts. This is a pretty solid draft for LBers so I would look for better value in the end and 3rd rounds.

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