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  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @jcam222 said:

    I am hoping he gets a 10 game suspension with credit given for the 4 regular season he missed last year giving him to us in week 7. 

    I don't see him being given credit for last year since he was cut.

    There is a difference between being released and suspended.

    I do understand your thinking....I just don't see it happening.

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't see him being given credit for last year since he was cut.

    There is a difference between being released and suspended.

    I do understand your thinking....I just don't see it happening.

    EBut he was placed on the exempt list which is essentially a suspension so in my mind it should count because any team could’ve picked him up and use him if not for that 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't see him being given credit for last year since he was cut.

    There is a difference between being released and suspended.

    I do understand your thinking....I just don't see it happening.

    EBut he was placed on the exempt list which is essentially a suspension so in my mind it should count because any team could’ve picked him up and use him if not for that 

    @the-gipper said:

    EBut he was placed on the exempt list which is essentially a suspension so in my mind it should count because any team could’ve picked him up and use him if not for that 

    Shrug....who knows?  Guess we will find out in a few weeks/months

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • 10 - 12 weeks?

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    10 - 12 weeks?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    10 - 12 weeks?

    WSS

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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  • B browns52

    @londonbrown said:

    FWIW I think Hunt is a piece of shit and we never should have signed him. 

    no shit...what the fuck are we going to do with 3 productive backs....someone is going to get fucked with the number of carries...i am happy with duke and chubb....this will be another shit show....give dorsey a chance to fuck this shit up is what i see....unless he trades kunt for some good high draft picks....we need defense, not 3 fucking productive rb's...christ almighty....

    @browns52 said:

    no shit...what the fuck are we going to do with 3 productive backs....

    I think this transition into being a good football team is going to be hard for some.

    Zombo

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @westside-steve said:

    10 - 12 weeks?

    WSS

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    @ballpeen said:

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    ... Hence the reason(s)  why I said Duke isn't as expendable as many have speculated.   

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @ballpeen said:

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    ... Hence the reason(s)  why I said Duke isn't as expendable as many have speculated.   

    @tiamat63 said:

    ... Hence the reason(s)  why I said Duke isn't as expendable as many have speculated.   

    I never thought he was going to be expendable this season.  The deadline is the end of October every year.....that is like week 7 or 8.

    I have always thought if Duke is traded, it would be after we sign Hunt to a long term deal, which would be next year.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @tiamat63 said:

    ... Hence the reason(s)  why I said Duke isn't as expendable as many have speculated.   

    I never thought he was going to be expendable this season.  The deadline is the end of October every year.....that is like week 7 or 8.

    I have always thought if Duke is traded, it would be after we sign Hunt to a long term deal, which would be next year.

    @ballpeen said:

    I never thought he was going to be expendable this season.  The deadline is the end of October every year.....that is like week 7 or 8.

    I have always thought if Duke is traded, it would be after we sign Hunt to a long term deal, which would be next year.

    Wasn't referencing you specifically, you just had the post content I wanted to quote.   Apologies for the confusion. 

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @westside-steve said:

    10 - 12 weeks?

    WSS

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    @ballpeen said:

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    He cant be with team in season, but unless something has changed, he can participate in camp and preseason games, which he should have a playbook then

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  • Gunz41G Gunz41

    @ballpeen said:

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    He cant be with team in season, but unless something has changed, he can participate in camp and preseason games, which he should have a playbook then

    @gunz41 said:

    He cant be with team in season, but unless something has changed, he can participate in camp and preseason games, which he should have a playbook then

    And IIRC, wasn't an exception made for Gordon?   

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @gunz41 said:

    He cant be with team in season, but unless something has changed, he can participate in camp and preseason games, which he should have a playbook then

    And IIRC, wasn't an exception made for Gordon?   

    @hoorta said:

    And IIRC, wasn't an exception made for Gordon?   

    When he was suspended for a certain number of games or indefinitely. No contact when indefinitely, but when it is a set number of games I believe they can.

    Brady did, Edelman did I believe, some others blanking on 

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @westside-steve said:

    10 - 12 weeks?

    WSS

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    @ballpeen said:

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    6 games on the active roster, active being key word. So even if his suspension is 10 and he can't get the Playbook to learn the plays we could just not list him on the active roster for a week and then this year would not count as an accrued season. And he has a remainder of 5 games this year to get acclimated then hopefully a postseason run to get acclimated and a full year next year before he is actually a restricted free agent.

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  • bjh2130B bjh2130

    @ballpeen said:

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    6 games on the active roster, active being key word. So even if his suspension is 10 and he can't get the Playbook to learn the plays we could just not list him on the active roster for a week and then this year would not count as an accrued season. And he has a remainder of 5 games this year to get acclimated then hopefully a postseason run to get acclimated and a full year next year before he is actually a restricted free agent.

    @bjh2130 said:

    6 games on the active roster, active being key word. So even if his suspension is 10 and he can't get the Playbook to learn the plays we could just not list him on the active roster for a week and then this year would not count as an accrued season. And he has a remainder of 5 games this year to get acclimated then hopefully a postseason run to get acclimated and a full year next year before he is actually a restricted free agent.

    I predict he will be on the field week 7

  • bjh2130B bjh2130

    @ballpeen said:

    I keep seeing 10 weeks.  

    Question for any who might know.  Once Hunt is officially suspended, can he practice with the team or is he out of all activity?

    If he can't do anything, I don't see how he is going to be much help down the stretch.

    Just looked it up....no.  He can't even get a playbook.  Six games counts as a accrued season.  It's looking more like we signed him to gain his restricted status, tag him, then keep him or take the pick.

    6 games on the active roster, active being key word. So even if his suspension is 10 and he can't get the Playbook to learn the plays we could just not list him on the active roster for a week and then this year would not count as an accrued season. And he has a remainder of 5 games this year to get acclimated then hopefully a postseason run to get acclimated and a full year next year before he is actually a restricted free agent.

    @bjh2130 said:

    6 games on the active roster, active being key word. So even if his suspension is 10 and he can't get the Playbook to learn the plays we could just not list him on the active roster for a week and then this year would not count as an accrued season. And he has a remainder of 5 games this year to get acclimated then hopefully a postseason run to get acclimated and a full year next year before he is actually a restricted free agent.

    If it came to a situation like that- I don't think Dorsey would pull a dirty trick like that to screw Hunt out of an accrued season.... 

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @bjh2130 said:

    6 games on the active roster, active being key word. So even if his suspension is 10 and he can't get the Playbook to learn the plays we could just not list him on the active roster for a week and then this year would not count as an accrued season. And he has a remainder of 5 games this year to get acclimated then hopefully a postseason run to get acclimated and a full year next year before he is actually a restricted free agent.

    If it came to a situation like that- I don't think Dorsey would pull a dirty trick like that to screw Hunt out of an accrued season.... 

    @hoorta said:

    If it came to a situation like that- I don't think Dorsey would pull a dirty trick like that to screw Hunt out of an accrued season.... 

    But if he doesn't know the offense because he couldn't get the Playbook I wouldn't consider it a dirty move. It's not a wise move to have someone on your active roster that can't contribute when called upon that day due to not knowing the plays.

  • bjh2130B bjh2130

    @hoorta said:

    If it came to a situation like that- I don't think Dorsey would pull a dirty trick like that to screw Hunt out of an accrued season.... 

    But if he doesn't know the offense because he couldn't get the Playbook I wouldn't consider it a dirty move. It's not a wise move to have someone on your active roster that can't contribute when called upon that day due to not knowing the plays.

    @bjh2130 said:

    But if he doesn't know the offense because he couldn't get the Playbook I wouldn't consider it a dirty move. It's not a wise move to have someone on your active roster that can't contribute when called upon that day due to not knowing the plays.

    It was alluded to earlier in this thread- and that's not the case. Up until the regular season starts, a suspended player can work out with the team, attend practices, and even play in preseason games. So Hunt will for sure get a playbook (if he hasn't already) When the regular season starts- then it's no contact with the team. Can't even go to an NFL game as a spectator. 

    EDIT:  Researching- But, when a player comes back from a suspension, the playbook he got in preseason probably changed quite a bit- as it's opponent specific. However, every team has a set of basic plays they use throughout the season...  

    & according to the calendar in another thread the Browns can start formal offseason workouts April 1st....  

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @bjh2130 said:

    But if he doesn't know the offense because he couldn't get the Playbook I wouldn't consider it a dirty move. It's not a wise move to have someone on your active roster that can't contribute when called upon that day due to not knowing the plays.

    It was alluded to earlier in this thread- and that's not the case. Up until the regular season starts, a suspended player can work out with the team, attend practices, and even play in preseason games. So Hunt will for sure get a playbook (if he hasn't already) When the regular season starts- then it's no contact with the team. Can't even go to an NFL game as a spectator. 

    EDIT:  Researching- But, when a player comes back from a suspension, the playbook he got in preseason probably changed quite a bit- as it's opponent specific. However, every team has a set of basic plays they use throughout the season...  

    & according to the calendar in another thread the Browns can start formal offseason workouts April 1st....  

    @hoorta said:

    It was alluded to earlier in this thread- and that's not the case. Up until the regular season starts, a suspended player can work out with the team, attend practices, and even play in preseason games. So Hunt will for sure get a playbook (if he hasn't already) When the regular season starts- then it's no contact with the team. Can't even go to an NFL game as a spectator. 

    EDIT:  Researching- But, when a player comes back from a suspension, the playbook he got in preseason probably changed quite a bit- as it's opponent specific. However, every team has a set of basic plays they use throughout the season...  

    & according to the calendar in another thread the Browns can start formal offseason workouts April 1st....  

    Yeah I get that I was just being hypothetical that if he can't contribute because he doesn't know enough of the Playbook or whatever or there is some situation like that I wouldn't think it a shady move to not have him on the active roster for 1 to however many weeks it takes to get everything sorted out. Hopefully all of this is new and it's not a 10 game suspension.

  • I have to wonder if the Browns have now blown up so much nationally that the league softens the suspension. We are headed towards being Americas team. 

  • I'd love to see a cross check of Hunt supporters and Rice condemners.

    My guess is the lists would be close to identical.

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