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Anybody seen tape of this dk metcalf kid?

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  • @canton-mike said:

    He is reported to have 1.6% body fat. IF this is accurate, it is unhealthy & a huge concern. He would be more prone to injury & infection. Even if slightly higher, I would be leary of drafting ANY player under 5%, no matter how much I liked him.

    Mike

    bingo..i can hear my old med training staff Tino with "this guy is going to be a medical staff nightmare"..with only 1.6 body fat on him, his joints should fall out in about 4 months of football contact drills..As expected, watch the board movements after today's drills..but imo, This Defensive Class will still knock many to 2nd round..JD should have a deal in place to move up in 2nd & 3rd..firm pass on Metcalf at #17   

    @gumby73 said:

    bingo..i can hear my old med training staff Tino with "this guy is going to be a medical staff nightmare"..with only 1.6 body fat on him, his joints should fall out in about 4 months of football contact drills..As expected, watch the board movements after today's drills..but imo, This Defensive Class will still knock many to 2nd round..JD should have a deal in place to move up in 2nd & 3rd..firm pass on Metcalf at #17   

    At 1.6% BF I would think even his essential fat in organs is lacking and dangerous. I am sorry but there is simply no way any human gets to 1.8% BF without heavily depending on substances to achieve it. I originally thought this number was reported wrong but it sure is out there everywhere. 

  • He is reported to have 1.6% body fat. IF this is accurate, it is unhealthy & a huge concern. He would be more prone to injury & infection. Even if slightly higher, I would be leary of drafting ANY player under 5%, no matter how much I liked him.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    He is reported to have 1.6% body fat. IF this is accurate, it is unhealthy & a huge concern. He would be more prone to injury & infection. Even if slightly higher, I would be leary of drafting ANY player under 5%, no matter how much I liked him.

    Mike

    Those are valid concerns indeed Mike.  Fat is also very important in areas of digestion (such as fat soluble vitamins like A, D, E, K): and when the body senses it's missing fat - it starts to make it's own fat.  Monkey wrench to that?  Steroids.

    Looking at all the lean mass he's packed on just this off season - I gotta wonder if his urine will be clean.  Prior to this, the biggest concerns about him stemmed from a neck injury he had.

    I remember David Boston's performance declined significantly when he gained weight putting on a lot of lean mass while losing fat. That said, I think he was also getting up there in age to the extent he felt he produced long enough to be okay with preferring his body building goals to more NFL wear an tear. 

  • While i'm sure it is incredibly low, the kid isn't 1.6% BF.   There isn't a nutritionist, trainer, doctor or AT/Director alive working with this kid allowing that slim possibility. 

  • Not buying the hype yet..Truly, Metcalf has all the tools of a true freak athlete. Maybe a body kicker too, but as a football fan, these are guys you pay to see. As most GM's, they stick to the gametapes & not highlight reels nor guys in shorts..I took over a hour to check back what i saw(LSU/Bama) & really, let the draft crab-shoot begin..As a Feature Outside WR, Metcalf will more likely see #1 CB's..Beside his injuries, there's only a few games, DK played each season against NFL level corners..Those CB's made Metcalf look average & his stats match his competition..Clearly, AJ Brown was the better route runner at Old Miss of the two from the tape. So DK got CB2's in a lot of reps.  yes, teams can stick DK outside & run AJ Green go routes from day one. Metcalf seems to fight well for 50/50 balls early* not so much late..So i put DK in the log jam of guys that may fall to #17?..Am really ready to watch some Defense talent Sunday/Monday ?..Go Browns!!        

  • @canton-mike said:

    He is reported to have 1.6% body fat. IF this is accurate, it is unhealthy & a huge concern. He would be more prone to injury & infection. Even if slightly higher, I would be leary of drafting ANY player under 5%, no matter how much I liked him.

    Mike

    Those are valid concerns indeed Mike.  Fat is also very important in areas of digestion (such as fat soluble vitamins like A, D, E, K): and when the body senses it's missing fat - it starts to make it's own fat.  Monkey wrench to that?  Steroids.

    Looking at all the lean mass he's packed on just this off season - I gotta wonder if his urine will be clean.  Prior to this, the biggest concerns about him stemmed from a neck injury he had.

    I remember David Boston's performance declined significantly when he gained weight putting on a lot of lean mass while losing fat. That said, I think he was also getting up there in age to the extent he felt he produced long enough to be okay with preferring his body building goals to more NFL wear an tear. 

    @flugel said:

    Those are valid concerns indeed Mike.  Fat is also very important in areas of digestion (such as fat soluble vitamins like A, D, E, K): and when the body senses it's missing fat - it starts to make it's own fat.  Monkey wrench to that?  Steroids.

    Looking at all the lean mass he's packed on just this off season - I gotta wonder if his urine will be clean.  Prior to this, the biggest concerns about him stemmed from a neck injury he had.

    I remember David Boston's performance declined significantly when he gained weight putting on a lot of lean mass while losing fat. That said, I think he was also getting up there in age to the extent he felt he produced long enough to be okay with preferring his body building goals to more NFL wear an tear. 

    Agree. To get that lean is typically something bodybuilders do. Even they only maintain that for very short periods for competition. To get to that level of leanness the last month or so out involves usually lasix, T3/T4 (thyroid meds) and stimulants perhaps like clenbuterol. That said you would then expect if an athlete did all that to achieve that leavel of lean his athletic performance should suffer greatly. This dudes cranking out like a 4.33 40 and putting up 27 reps on the bench like a tackle!! Hell maybe he is an alien LOL

  • Freak athlete for sure.   Catches the ball clean as well in all the drills.   I heard someone on the broadcast mention a neck issue that he has or had last season.   But I think he ran himself into the top 10 of the first round today.

  • shuttle and 3 cone drill though.... not ideal.

  • shuttle and 3 cone drill though.... not ideal.

    @tiamat63 said:

    shuttle and 3 cone drill though.... not ideal.

    Are saying someone that bulky struggles with quick change-of-direction drills?

    ? 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    shuttle and 3 cone drill though.... not ideal.

    Are saying someone that bulky struggles with quick change-of-direction drills?

    ? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Are saying someone that bulky struggles with quick change-of-direction drills?

    ?

    I'm saying my 5'11 white ass might cha cha, 2 step and maybe...just maybe... c walk better than him.  

  • His nfl.com profile is fun.

    "Breaks and stems aren't as sharp as they should be" -- Ya think?

    "Needs better positioning of his big frame to block out defenders on comebacks" - Just what we need, a "big body" who can't use it.

    Another problem with picking this kid is missing out on guys who will be better contributors than him.  I'd rather have a good DT who affects every play..

  • He is reported to have 1.6% body fat. IF this is accurate, it is unhealthy & a huge concern. He would be more prone to injury & infection. Even if slightly higher, I would be leary of drafting ANY player under 5%, no matter how much I liked him.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    He is reported to have 1.6% body fat. IF this is accurate, it is unhealthy & a huge concern. He would be more prone to injury & infection. Even if slightly higher, I would be leary of drafting ANY player under 5%, no matter how much I liked him.

    Mike

    Yeah- doing a little research- you're right.  I thought some of those Kenyan human skeleton distance runners were that low in body fat- but they usually aren't.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Are saying someone that bulky struggles with quick change-of-direction drills?

    ?

    I'm saying my 5'11 white ass might cha cha, 2 step and maybe...just maybe... c walk better than him.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    just maybe... c walk better than him.  

    there will have to be video evidence of this...here's the gold standard...

    now that's a clean ass c-walk

  • @tiamat63 said:

    just maybe... c walk better than him.  

    there will have to be video evidence of this...here's the gold standard...

    now that's a clean ass c-walk

    @clevfan4life said:

    there will have to be video evidence of this...here's the gold standard...

    now that's a clean ass c-walk

    White people c walking is like Bigfoot.  Can't photograph it because we have to keep the legend going for the kids... 

  • Doesn't matter he'll be gone way before we pick. 

    I'm okay with Ed Oliver at seventeen.

    WSS

  • Doesn't matter he'll be gone way before we pick. 

    I'm okay with Ed Oliver at seventeen.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Doesn't matter he'll be gone way before we pick. 

    I'm okay with Ed Oliver at seventeen.

    WSS

    Oliver!

  • Oliver is the second coming of Mingo.  For once, let somebody else waste a first-round pick on a guy with "measurables".

  • Oliver is the second coming of Mingo.  For once, let somebody else waste a first-round pick on a guy with "measurables".

    @unsympathetic said:

    Oliver is the second coming of Mingo.  For once, let somebody else waste a first-round pick on a guy with "measurables".

    Ed Oliver was productive in college. 

    Mingo really wasn't. 

    I don't get this comp at all. 

  • Oliver is the second coming of Mingo.  For once, let somebody else waste a first-round pick on a guy with "measurables".

    @unsympathetic said:

    Oliver is the second coming of Mingo.  For once, let somebody else waste a first-round pick on a guy with "measurables".

    umm Oliver ain't gonna be there at 17 anyway. 

  • He is reported to have 1.6% body fat. IF this is accurate, it is unhealthy & a huge concern. He would be more prone to injury & infection. Even if slightly higher, I would be leary of drafting ANY player under 5%, no matter how much I liked him.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    He is reported to have 1.6% body fat. IF this is accurate, it is unhealthy & a huge concern. He would be more prone to injury & infection. Even if slightly higher, I would be leary of drafting ANY player under 5%, no matter how much I liked him.

    Mike

    Good news Mike. That means we should live forever.

    ?

    WSS

  • @canton-mike said:

    He is reported to have 1.6% body fat. IF this is accurate, it is unhealthy & a huge concern. He would be more prone to injury & infection. Even if slightly higher, I would be leary of drafting ANY player under 5%, no matter how much I liked him.

    Mike

    Good news Mike. That means we should live forever.

    ?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Good news Mike. That means we should live forever.

    ?

    WSS

    Ironically there is some truth to living off the fat of the land if you make it to later life. More ability to survive a major illness (excluding heart problems of course). I think I'm all set.?