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    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    How much ammo should I buy?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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      Don't ask me, google it and decide on your own.

      "How much ammo should I need for SHTF?"

      there - you can use that. Let me know what results you get.

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        Don't ask me, google it and decide on your own.

        "How much ammo should I need for SHTF?"

        there - you can use that. Let me know what results you get.

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        @calfoxwc said:

        Don't ask me, google it and decide on your own.

        "How much ammo should I need for SHTF?"

        there - you can use that. Let me know what results you get.

        Well 4 guns, 3 different calibers. Maybe 5000 per?

        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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          I see a trip to Fin Feather and Fur in my near future 

          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            well, it depends on whether you believe in zombies. That is just nonsense, and I don't, so it saves on ammo costs.

            Keep in mind, some of that is specialty ammo, like wooden garlic-rubbed arrows with crosses carved into em, and

            silver bullets....

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              How much ammo should I buy?

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              @browns149 said:

              How much ammo should I buy?

              Become an expert in camo. Then you only need one good knife & wetstone for self defense and 500 or so 22 shorts or subsonic for small game.??

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                well, it depends on whether you believe in zombies. That is just nonsense, and I don't, so it saves on ammo costs.

                Keep in mind, some of that is specialty ammo, like wooden garlic-rubbed arrows with crosses carved into em, and

                silver bullets....

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                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                @calfoxwc said:

                well, it depends on whether you believe in zombies. That is just nonsense, and I don't, so it saves on ammo costs.

                Keep in mind, some of that is specialty ammo, like wooden garlic-rubbed arrows with crosses carved into em, and

                silver bullets....

                I don’t believe in zombies either. Although I’ve never watched any of the zombie shows

                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                  And guess who agrees with that assessment?

                  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-says-country-is-in-full-fledged-crisis-during-speech-in-selma-to-mark-bloody-sunday

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                      And guess who agrees with that assessment?

                      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-says-country-is-in-full-fledged-crisis-during-speech-in-selma-to-mark-bloody-sunday

                      WSS

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      And guess who agrees with that assessment?

                      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-says-country-is-in-full-fledged-crisis-during-speech-in-selma-to-mark-bloody-sunday

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                      So crafty this bitch is at projecting this crisis. The crisis the Hildebeest was braying about was either manufactured by her own party/media, or created by her own party/media.  Truth doesn't matter to these democrat fucks, only winning does.

                      "This is a time, my friends, when fundamental rights, civic virtue, freedom of the press, the rule of law, truth, facts and reason are under assault," Clinton said

                      Truth and nothing but the truth in Cals link:

                      For more than two years, the United States and the world have had two competing narratives: that an elected president of the United States was a Russian agent whom the Kremlin helped elect; and its rival narrative that senior officials of the Justice Department, FBI, CIA, and other national intelligence organizations had repeatedly lied under oath, misinformed federal officials, and meddled in partisan political matters illegally and unconstitutionally and had effectively tried to influence the outcome of a presidential election, and then undo its result by falsely propagating the first narrative. It is now obvious and indisputable that the second narrative is the correct one.

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        And guess who agrees with that assessment?

                        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-says-country-is-in-full-fledged-crisis-during-speech-in-selma-to-mark-bloody-sunday

                        WSS

                        So crafty this bitch is at projecting this crisis. The crisis the Hildebeest was braying about was either manufactured by her own party/media, or created by her own party/media.  Truth doesn't matter to these democrat fucks, only winning does.

                        "This is a time, my friends, when fundamental rights, civic virtue, freedom of the press, the rule of law, truth, facts and reason are under assault," Clinton said

                        Truth and nothing but the truth in Cals link:

                        For more than two years, the United States and the world have had two competing narratives: that an elected president of the United States was a Russian agent whom the Kremlin helped elect; and its rival narrative that senior officials of the Justice Department, FBI, CIA, and other national intelligence organizations had repeatedly lied under oath, misinformed federal officials, and meddled in partisan political matters illegally and unconstitutionally and had effectively tried to influence the outcome of a presidential election, and then undo its result by falsely propagating the first narrative. It is now obvious and indisputable that the second narrative is the correct one.

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                        @gorka said:

                        So crafty this bitch is at projecting this crisis. The crisis the Hildebeest was braying about was either manufactured by her own party/media, or created by her own party/media.  Truth doesn't matter to these democrat fucks, only winning does.

                        This is literally the exact type of thread that gets posted here multiple  times a day, but with a conservative tilt....

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                          that's some A game trolling right there if that is actually how it went down. 

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                            @vambo said:

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                            It is rumored that when current Energy Secretary Rick Perry was the Agricultural Commissioner of Texas (he majored in Animal Science) a fellow Aggie decided to become a chicken farmer and bought himself 500 starter chickens through Perry's office. He wrote Perry a month later saying all the chickens had died and Perry sent him another 500 saying they needed to be free range chickens this time around. A month later the guy wrote back that he had planted them on free range, but they had all died as well. Perry wrote back a one sentence reply, "Send me a soil sample." ???

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                              Nadler Might Call Ivanka, All Trump’s Advisers in Sweeping Witch Hunt

                              Socialism-loving House Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said Monday that Ivanka Trump and other associates of the president could “quite conceivably” hear from his committee. Nadler, sent out 81 letters to people to be called. And that is only the first round.

                              For now, he says he just wants information,and admits he doesn’t have evidence for impeachment or to charge a crime.

                              The witch hunt has begun in earnest since Democrats don’t think Mueller has the goods. They will investigate all things Trump and everyone remotely connected to Trump.

                               

                              While the list included Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, and Jared Kushner, it did not include the president’s daughter and senior adviser.

                              “She’s not on the initial list. That’s all we can say,” Nadler said.

                              THE LIST

                              Everyone in the United States who ever met, talked about Donald Trump, watched an episode of the Apprentice, or stayed in a Trump hotel could be put on the Nadler list, judging by his comments of late.

                               

                              Democrats are now left-wing McCarthyites or Stalinists.

                              McCarthyism is defined as a campaign or practice that endorses the use of unfair allegations and investigations. Stalinists, for their part, used secret police and fished for crimes or just fabricated them. The slogan of Stalin’s favorite police chief was, “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”

                              Ironically, Nadler, acting like a dictator, wants to make sure this administration “isn’t a dictatorship.”

                              The only ones trying to take away our private health insurance, First and Second Amendmentssovereigntyhy, and personal wealth are the DEMOCRATS!

                              Since most of these people on the list are not in government, they don’t have to answer any questions, and shouldn’t. Who the hay are these congressional witch hunters to drag them in without evidence of anything?

                               

                              They are even calling the firm allegedly hosting a Russian troll farm, Concord Management and Consulting. Naturally, the committee will bully the Flynns and Carter Page, who have already had their lives ruined by this witch hunt.

                              THE PRESIDENT RESPONDS

                               

                              The President called it abuse and harrassment of a President. It is leftist McCarthyism as these Democrat bullies admit they don’t have evidence to impeach but are out to find some. They are going into every aspect of his life, as the President says, so they can regain the power to “institute Socialism.”

                              Fishing expeditions are Stalinist, not American. In the United States, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around as it was in Stalinist Russia.

                              http://www.independentsentinel.com/nadler-might-call-ivanka-all-trumps-advisers-in-sweeping-witch-hunt/

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                                Nadler Might Call Ivanka, All Trump’s Advisers in Sweeping Witch Hunt

                                Socialism-loving House Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said Monday that Ivanka Trump and other associates of the president could “quite conceivably” hear from his committee. Nadler, sent out 81 letters to people to be called. And that is only the first round.

                                For now, he says he just wants information,and admits he doesn’t have evidence for impeachment or to charge a crime.

                                The witch hunt has begun in earnest since Democrats don’t think Mueller has the goods. They will investigate all things Trump and everyone remotely connected to Trump.

                                 

                                While the list included Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, and Jared Kushner, it did not include the president’s daughter and senior adviser.

                                “She’s not on the initial list. That’s all we can say,” Nadler said.

                                THE LIST

                                Everyone in the United States who ever met, talked about Donald Trump, watched an episode of the Apprentice, or stayed in a Trump hotel could be put on the Nadler list, judging by his comments of late.

                                 

                                Democrats are now left-wing McCarthyites or Stalinists.

                                McCarthyism is defined as a campaign or practice that endorses the use of unfair allegations and investigations. Stalinists, for their part, used secret police and fished for crimes or just fabricated them. The slogan of Stalin’s favorite police chief was, “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”

                                Ironically, Nadler, acting like a dictator, wants to make sure this administration “isn’t a dictatorship.”

                                The only ones trying to take away our private health insurance, First and Second Amendmentssovereigntyhy, and personal wealth are the DEMOCRATS!

                                Since most of these people on the list are not in government, they don’t have to answer any questions, and shouldn’t. Who the hay are these congressional witch hunters to drag them in without evidence of anything?

                                 

                                They are even calling the firm allegedly hosting a Russian troll farm, Concord Management and Consulting. Naturally, the committee will bully the Flynns and Carter Page, who have already had their lives ruined by this witch hunt.

                                THE PRESIDENT RESPONDS

                                 

                                The President called it abuse and harrassment of a President. It is leftist McCarthyism as these Democrat bullies admit they don’t have evidence to impeach but are out to find some. They are going into every aspect of his life, as the President says, so they can regain the power to “institute Socialism.”

                                Fishing expeditions are Stalinist, not American. In the United States, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around as it was in Stalinist Russia.

                                http://www.independentsentinel.com/nadler-might-call-ivanka-all-trumps-advisers-in-sweeping-witch-hunt/

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                                @oldbrownsfan said:

                                Fishing expeditions are Stalinist, not American. In the United States, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around as it was in Stalinist Russia.

                                This is tough to accept, that what used to be a real "other political Real American party", is now a leftist, stalinist style organization.

                                Very intriguing read:

                                https://art-bin.com/art/arenegadeeng.html

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                                  Nadler Might Call Ivanka, All Trump’s Advisers in Sweeping Witch Hunt

                                  Socialism-loving House Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said Monday that Ivanka Trump and other associates of the president could “quite conceivably” hear from his committee. Nadler, sent out 81 letters to people to be called. And that is only the first round.

                                  For now, he says he just wants information,and admits he doesn’t have evidence for impeachment or to charge a crime.

                                  The witch hunt has begun in earnest since Democrats don’t think Mueller has the goods. They will investigate all things Trump and everyone remotely connected to Trump.

                                   

                                  While the list included Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, and Jared Kushner, it did not include the president’s daughter and senior adviser.

                                  “She’s not on the initial list. That’s all we can say,” Nadler said.

                                  THE LIST

                                  Everyone in the United States who ever met, talked about Donald Trump, watched an episode of the Apprentice, or stayed in a Trump hotel could be put on the Nadler list, judging by his comments of late.

                                   

                                  Democrats are now left-wing McCarthyites or Stalinists.

                                  McCarthyism is defined as a campaign or practice that endorses the use of unfair allegations and investigations. Stalinists, for their part, used secret police and fished for crimes or just fabricated them. The slogan of Stalin’s favorite police chief was, “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”

                                  Ironically, Nadler, acting like a dictator, wants to make sure this administration “isn’t a dictatorship.”

                                  The only ones trying to take away our private health insurance, First and Second Amendmentssovereigntyhy, and personal wealth are the DEMOCRATS!

                                  Since most of these people on the list are not in government, they don’t have to answer any questions, and shouldn’t. Who the hay are these congressional witch hunters to drag them in without evidence of anything?

                                   

                                  They are even calling the firm allegedly hosting a Russian troll farm, Concord Management and Consulting. Naturally, the committee will bully the Flynns and Carter Page, who have already had their lives ruined by this witch hunt.

                                  THE PRESIDENT RESPONDS

                                   

                                  The President called it abuse and harrassment of a President. It is leftist McCarthyism as these Democrat bullies admit they don’t have evidence to impeach but are out to find some. They are going into every aspect of his life, as the President says, so they can regain the power to “institute Socialism.”

                                  Fishing expeditions are Stalinist, not American. In the United States, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around as it was in Stalinist Russia.

                                  http://www.independentsentinel.com/nadler-might-call-ivanka-all-trumps-advisers-in-sweeping-witch-hunt/

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                                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                                  Fishing expeditions are Stalinist, not American. In the United States, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around as it was in Stalinist Russia.

                                  Hmmmmm. Where did you stand when the Republicans were fishing for Bill and came up with Monica? Was that Stalinist Russia too?"

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                                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                                    Fishing expeditions are Stalinist, not American. In the United States, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around as it was in Stalinist Russia.

                                    Hmmmmm. Where did you stand when the Republicans were fishing for Bill and came up with Monica? Was that Stalinist Russia too?"

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                                    Hmmmmm. Where did you stand when the Republicans were fishing for Bill and came up with Monica? Was that Stalinist Russia too?"

                                    It was ridiculous. How the fuck do you think anybody took it? But it's just like the lefties screaming about lying to Congress or lying to the investigators or lying to anybody. Yes he did lie got away with it and Witnesses refuse to testify in the Whitewater case in which there were 12 at least indictments and everybody got off the hook oh, well at least everybody important. And it was a fucking Witch Hunt.

                                    At least and Monica's case she was a willing participant.

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                                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                                      Fishing expeditions are Stalinist, not American. In the United States, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around as it was in Stalinist Russia.

                                      Hmmmmm. Where did you stand when the Republicans were fishing for Bill and came up with Monica? Was that Stalinist Russia too?"

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                                      Hmmmmm. Where did you stand when the Republicans were fishing for Bill and came up with Monica? Was that Stalinist Russia too?"

                                      The problem is the appointing of a special counsel. It should almost never happen. I can only think of the Nixon Watergate case where one was legitimately needed. A special counsel has almost unlimited funds and an army of lawyers with little oversight. Obama was smart enough to have attorney generals like Holder and Lynch who were never going to appoint a special counsel on any of the scandals on his watch so in his 8 years it never happened. Trump got nailed with Special Counsel Mueller only a few months in office over a phony Russian collusion charge  Trump chose an inept bumbling AG in Jeff Sessions (likely a political favor for Session's support in the primary) who was in over his head at the DOJ. Trump was rightfully upset that Sessions never warned him about possibly recusing himself from the Russian investigation beforehand.

                                      The republicans had every right to proceed with impeachment proceedings against Clinton when he clearly committed a felony and lied under oath. It was a mistake politically however and the republicans suffered in the polls. The majority of the American people were not behind it as they did not want to see a president removed from office over lying about an extramarital affair (much like the dems have tried to make hay over Stormy Daniels and the hush money paid). We know Trump lied about the affair (that was 10 years ago well before he was in office) and the dems found out like the republicans did with Clinton the majority of the American people aren't interested in seeing an election overturned on stuff like this. When the Russian collusion charge fizzles out and the dems continue to investigate Trump over anything they can find in the hopes of trying to remove him from office this will benefit the republicans and help Trump win in 2020. The few smart dems that are left in the party have warned the dems in congress not to  have endless investigations of Trump but work to legislate because they know all the investigations into Trump will backfire on them like it did with the republicans with Clinton. The dems can't help themselves and will do it anyway because they hate Trump so much. They will have nothing to show for  in 2020 as to anything done legislatively as they focus on bringing down Trump by any means possible. 

                                      MAGA Trump 2020.

                                      **** Also Tex I agree with you we have a spending problem but instead of only blaming Trump remember those good old RINO's like the "budget hawk so called" Paul Ryan who passed some of the largest spending bills in history under his watch.

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                                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                                        Fishing expeditions are Stalinist, not American. In the United States, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around as it was in Stalinist Russia.

                                        Hmmmmm. Where did you stand when the Republicans were fishing for Bill and came up with Monica? Was that Stalinist Russia too?"

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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        Hmmmmm. Where did you stand when the Republicans were fishing for Bill and came up with Monica? Was that Stalinist Russia too?"

                                        There was no fishing for Bill Clinton, that is stupid. The evidence was all over - corroborating witnesses, stained dress/dna, actual REAL testimony, PROVEN lies by your sleazeball hero - (would you have any other kind?)

                                        Just because you smart off a retort, doesn't make that retort a genuine moral equivalency.

                                        It's just that your emotions are the driving force.

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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          Hmmmmm. Where did you stand when the Republicans were fishing for Bill and came up with Monica? Was that Stalinist Russia too?"

                                          The problem is the appointing of a special counsel. It should almost never happen. I can only think of the Nixon Watergate case where one was legitimately needed. A special counsel has almost unlimited funds and an army of lawyers with little oversight. Obama was smart enough to have attorney generals like Holder and Lynch who were never going to appoint a special counsel on any of the scandals on his watch so in his 8 years it never happened. Trump got nailed with Special Counsel Mueller only a few months in office over a phony Russian collusion charge  Trump chose an inept bumbling AG in Jeff Sessions (likely a political favor for Session's support in the primary) who was in over his head at the DOJ. Trump was rightfully upset that Sessions never warned him about possibly recusing himself from the Russian investigation beforehand.

                                          The republicans had every right to proceed with impeachment proceedings against Clinton when he clearly committed a felony and lied under oath. It was a mistake politically however and the republicans suffered in the polls. The majority of the American people were not behind it as they did not want to see a president removed from office over lying about an extramarital affair (much like the dems have tried to make hay over Stormy Daniels and the hush money paid). We know Trump lied about the affair (that was 10 years ago well before he was in office) and the dems found out like the republicans did with Clinton the majority of the American people aren't interested in seeing an election overturned on stuff like this. When the Russian collusion charge fizzles out and the dems continue to investigate Trump over anything they can find in the hopes of trying to remove him from office this will benefit the republicans and help Trump win in 2020. The few smart dems that are left in the party have warned the dems in congress not to  have endless investigations of Trump but work to legislate because they know all the investigations into Trump will backfire on them like it did with the republicans with Clinton. The dems can't help themselves and will do it anyway because they hate Trump so much. They will have nothing to show for  in 2020 as to anything done legislatively as they focus on bringing down Trump by any means possible. 

                                          MAGA Trump 2020.

                                          **** Also Tex I agree with you we have a spending problem but instead of only blaming Trump remember those good old RINO's like the "budget hawk so called" Paul Ryan who passed some of the largest spending bills in history under his watch.

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                                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                                          **** Also Tex I agree with you we have a spending problem but instead of only blaming Trump remember those good old RINO's like the "budget hawk so called" Paul Ryan who passed some of the largest spending bills in history under his watch.

                                          Actually I blame the whole Republican party since it has become evident since then Trump can't read and had little to do with the tax cut bill. They gave him credit which he fully took, so in that way it is "his". But I don't really believe he understood a word of what he was signing. It was just another ego thing for him to sign and credit himself. And I agree Ryan & I think also McConnell should shoulder most of the blame for the bill itself that created this mess of a "budget". Just another reason to wonder what happened to the Republican party. They also were supposed to be king at protecting us from foreign enemies, but are dropping the ball big-time because they won't fight back on these ridiculous "gut" decisions by Trump unsupported by intelligence/military leaders.

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