NOOOOOOOOO
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Ha
Take your blue glasses off
Jabrilla was a HORRIBLE kick returner and, at best, an average safety.
If they sign Earl Thomas. The Browns just got better at 3 positions
Safety, Kick Returner and WR
Take your blue glasses off
Jabrilla was a HORRIBLE kick returner and, at best, an average safety.
If they sign Earl Thomas. The Browns just got better at 3 positions
Safety, Kick Returner and WR
I mean, that's objectively not true, based on PFF grades.
But there's no sense anymore in arguing with people telling me to take off my blue glasses when they have on three pairs of scarlet glasses.
Whatever. Reality didn't matter to some when he was here, I know it won't matter when those people look back ...
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Take your blue glasses off
Jabrilla was a HORRIBLE kick returner and, at best, an average safety.
If they sign Earl Thomas. The Browns just got better at 3 positions
Safety, Kick Returner and WR
He was not an avg safety c'mon, stop it
He was not an avg safety c'mon, stop it
It's not worth it anymore man. Let some of these guys live in their revisionist history.
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Take your blue glasses off
Jabrilla was a HORRIBLE kick returner and, at best, an average safety.
If they sign Earl Thomas. The Browns just got better at 3 positions
Safety, Kick Returner and WR
I mean, that's objectively not true, based on PFF grades.
But there's no sense anymore in arguing with people telling me to take off my blue glasses when they have on three pairs of scarlet glasses.
Whatever. Reality didn't matter to some when he was here, I know it won't matter when those people look back ...
I mean, that's objectively not true, based on PFF grades.
But there's no sense anymore in arguing with people telling me to take off my blue glasses when they have on three pairs of scarlet glasses.
Whatever. Reality didn't matter to some when he was here, I know it won't matter when those people look back ...
Let’s see those grades
looking at NFL stats he was middle of the road or lower in EVERY category
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I mean, that's objectively not true, based on PFF grades.
But there's no sense anymore in arguing with people telling me to take off my blue glasses when they have on three pairs of scarlet glasses.
Whatever. Reality didn't matter to some when he was here, I know it won't matter when those people look back ...
Let’s see those grades
looking at NFL stats he was middle of the road or lower in EVERY category
Let’s see those grades
looking at NFL stats he was middle of the road or lower in EVERY category
sigh
PFF had him as the #19 safety when all was said and done, his first year in his role, with especially high grades in coverage. They don't distinguish between the type of safety. He's listed as above average. Higher grade than Randall.
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Let’s see those grades
looking at NFL stats he was middle of the road or lower in EVERY category
sigh
PFF had him as the #19 safety when all was said and done, his first year in his role, with especially high grades in coverage. They don't distinguish between the type of safety. He's listed as above average. Higher grade than Randall.
sigh
PFF had him as the #19 safety when all was said and done, his first year in his role, with especially high grades in coverage. They don't distinguish between the type of safety. He's listed as above average. Higher grade than Randall.
Here's the deal Wody...He's gone as of 4pm tomorrow & he is a strong safety, Randall is a free safety. No comparison. Time to let go.
Mike
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sigh
PFF had him as the #19 safety when all was said and done, his first year in his role, with especially high grades in coverage. They don't distinguish between the type of safety. He's listed as above average. Higher grade than Randall.
Here's the deal Wody...He's gone as of 4pm tomorrow & he is a strong safety, Randall is a free safety. No comparison. Time to let go.
Mike
Here's the deal Wody...He's gone as of 4pm tomorrow & he is a strong safety, Randall is a free safety. No comparison. Time to let go.
Mike
Context.
Within the context of the PFF grades, all safeties are on the same scale. That's what I was referring to. Browns149 came with the normal subjective anti Pep stuff and I was correcting him. One last time. Though as with all of the other instances, it's not worth the time
I realize he's gone. He'll get to do great over there. Hell, his success is part of the reason the Giants accepted this trade.
Just understand the context of the post and the "conversation" up to that point.
I'm excited to see the Browns next year. Hope we make some more big signings. Disappointed my guy is gone, but happy to see we have a plan.
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Here's the deal Wody...He's gone as of 4pm tomorrow & he is a strong safety, Randall is a free safety. No comparison. Time to let go.
Mike
Context.
Within the context of the PFF grades, all safeties are on the same scale. That's what I was referring to. Browns149 came with the normal subjective anti Pep stuff and I was correcting him. One last time. Though as with all of the other instances, it's not worth the time
I realize he's gone. He'll get to do great over there. Hell, his success is part of the reason the Giants accepted this trade.
Just understand the context of the post and the "conversation" up to that point.
I'm excited to see the Browns next year. Hope we make some more big signings. Disappointed my guy is gone, but happy to see we have a plan.
Context.
Within the context of the PFF grades, all safeties are on the same scale. That's what I was referring to. Browns149 came with the normal subjective anti Pep stuff and I was correcting him. One last time. Though as with all of the other instances, it's not worth the time
I realize he's gone. He'll get to do great over there. Hell, his success is part of the reason the Giants accepted this trade.
Just understand the context of the post and the "conversation" up to that point.
I'm excited to see the Browns next year. Hope we make some more big signings. Disappointed my guy is gone, but happy to see we have a plan.
I liked Peppers too & wish him well. His potential & late season performance helped us obtain OBJ & I thank him for that. I'm hopeful that we have enough left to get us back into the 1st round. We'll see what happens but I put NOTHING past Dorsey.
Mike
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Zombo said:
Calloway? Oh no. These three will be on the field at the same time. With Higgy and Perriman ready with fresh legs.
Game over.
Z
Exactly. We now have a top 3 wr group. I’ll take that over a #17 pick, an extra 3rd rounder and a saftey that is average at best
Exactly. We now have a top 3 wr group. I’ll take that over a #17 pick, an extra 3rd rounder and a saftey that is average at best
Average at best yes I’m afraid that’s the truth.
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Take your blue glasses off
Jabrilla was a HORRIBLE kick returner and, at best, an average safety.
If they sign Earl Thomas. The Browns just got better at 3 positions
Safety, Kick Returner and WR
He was not an avg safety c'mon, stop it
He was not an avg safety c'mon, stop it
Below average?
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Take your blue glasses off
Jabrilla was a HORRIBLE kick returner and, at best, an average safety.
If they sign Earl Thomas. The Browns just got better at 3 positions
Safety, Kick Returner and WR
I mean, that's objectively not true, based on PFF grades.
But there's no sense anymore in arguing with people telling me to take off my blue glasses when they have on three pairs of scarlet glasses.
Whatever. Reality didn't matter to some when he was here, I know it won't matter when those people look back ...
I mean, that's objectively not true, based on PFF grades.
But there's no sense anymore in arguing with people telling me to take off my blue glasses when they have on three pairs of scarlet glasses.
Whatever. Reality didn't matter to some when he was here, I know it won't matter when those people look back ...
He was eminently expendable and replaceable that’s all you have to know.
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For sure. Average at best
Good enough to replace Landon Collins, who got mega paid. Average opinion, you have.
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Exactly. We now have a top 3 wr group. I’ll take that over a #17 pick, an extra 3rd rounder and a saftey that is average at best
Average at best yes I’m afraid that’s the truth.
Average at best yes I’m afraid that’s the truth.
For a lawyer, I figured you'd have more dpeth...?
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Average at best yes I’m afraid that’s the truth.
For a lawyer, I figured you'd have more dpeth...?
For a lawyer, I figured you'd have more dpeth...?
The key to proper argument is succinctness. He Performed at average no more need be said.
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Exactly. We now have a top 3 wr group. I’ll take that over a #17 pick, an extra 3rd rounder and a saftey that is average at best
Average at best yes I’m afraid that’s the truth.
Average at best yes I’m afraid that’s the truth.
Woody won't want to hear this, but mucking through the fallout on NFL.com- here's what their talking head had to say about Peppers.
"The Giants said they would have to be "blown away" to consider giving up Beckham, yet he went for a similar draft pick haul to what Sam Bradford inspired before the 2016 season, with a mid-level starting safety in Peppers thrown in." Safe to say mid level = "average".
At least Jabril is heading home to where he grew up and can play in front of his family. I do wish him well.
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It's obvious Dorsey has been talking to Thomas for quite sometime because the ink hadn't dried, figuratively speaking, on the obj trade before we started hearing about Earl. And prior to that peppers was not part of any trade rumors. U can be sure the Browns would have GLADLY packaged ogbah in this trade instead of pep because ogbah is now rotational depth...and the giants now need a LDE. But they wanted peppers instead......tells u everything. The giants insisted on peppers.
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Dorsey knows he has to build up the defense if he wants to get past Kansas City and beat the Patriots
Dorsey knows he has to build up the defense if he wants to get past Kansas City and beat the Patriots
Most exciting thing is that we now have a formidable front 4 that can get the ball for us much more often and we have some playmakers who can score for us much more often with he opportunities the D provides. The happiest two players on the Browns right now have to be Baker and Myles. Now they are both provided premier support to do what they do best, wreck other teams on their respective sides of the ball. Additionally we have replaced the worst HC ever in pro football and on of the worst ST coaches in pro ball. The Browns are now "a team to be feared" as I heard last night from Prime Time on NFL Net. He was really happy for all the long suffering Browns fans, as ere all the other commentators. I can hardly wait to see what other rabbits Buddy Boy pulls out of the hat between now and the 2019 season opener. It's like waking up Xmas morning every day right now.
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Average at best yes I’m afraid that’s the truth.
For a lawyer, I figured you'd have more dpeth...?
For a lawyer, I figured you'd have more dpeth...?
Let's just be happy he knows what position Odell plays
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Peppers "replaces" Landon Collins? lol...
He wasn't a Dorsey pick, Woody... therefore he was expendable.
Also possible he was a not a great fit for Wilks' system... who IIRC likes more interchangeable FS-SS combos... so we won't lose that much even if Kindred is our starting SS.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Peppers "replaces" Landon Collins? lol...
He wasn't a Dorsey pick, Woody... therefore he was expendable.
Also possible he was a not a great fit for Wilks' system... who IIRC likes more interchangeable FS-SS combos... so we won't lose that much even if Kindred is our starting SS.
Peppers "replaces" Landon Collins? lol...
He wasn't a Dorsey pick, Woody... therefore he was expendable.
Also possible he was a not a great fit for Wilks' system... who IIRC likes more interchangeable FS-SS combos... so we won't lose that much even if Kindred is our starting SS.
Pep played deep a lot last year, got that pick against Denver, and has a year playing the deepest safety ever (....ha).
I think this was more about what the Giants wanted than what we were wanting to move. And with some Safeties still out there, I can see why Dorsey did it.
Just bummed to see it when everything this season has been about him being a leader on the D and what not. Oh well
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