OBJ is a BROWN!!!!!
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an absolute a+
the centerpiece of the trade is the 1st round pick. Obj for a mid first rounder + filler? Especially when you look at how the giants already take a bit of the cap hit.....amazing.
anytime you have a chance to get an absolute premium player, especially at a high value position, you pounce if what you are giving up is reasonable. When you draft #17(he’ll when you draft #3), the absolute best case scenario is to find a player like Beckham. We get that, and barring injury we get an absolute a+ premium player who will be in his absolute prime the next few years.
as for the 3rd and peppers....eh, it’s a late third and peppers is worth a 4th on the trade market. I know that hurts some people to hear, but it’s reality. Look at banwells lead article on espn right now. Look at other barnwell types who can assess value- all the same phrases....mid round pick, 4th round pick, etc....he plays one of the least premium positions on the whole field and he is completely replaceable. So in addition to the mid first we gave up a late 3rd and a 4th.....for a TRUE PREMIUM PLAYER AT A PREMIUM POSITION IN HIS PRIME EHILE WE HAVE HIM.
that’s why we are getting a grades from everyone on this trade. You have to look at the whole picture. Huge day for Browns fans
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Baking up Turnovers said:
Why? They should be happy that Odell is off the team. It’s us Browns fans who should be upset.
Oh look, a contrarian, how clever
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Caption what is being said ........
Dorsey ......... OK now we will give you Dontrel Hilliard, Seth DeValve and a 7th rounder in 2020 for Saquon -
Caption what is being said ........
Dorsey ......... OK now we will give you Dontrel Hilliard, Seth DeValve and a 7th rounder in 2020 for Saquon -
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It should be noted, that I think, OBJ will be the Browns' Tyreek Hill, courtesy of Dorsey.
and, Mr. Canton Mike actually has been bringing up OBJ trade to the Browns to me for months. It got worse this off-season.
I kept thinking "oh, lol, here we go again..."
When he called and told me, I figured he was just being a goof.
Nope. They really DID make the trade?
Dammit. Now Canton Mike is going to be a pain. Yes, I was freaking wrong.
dammit.
lol
btw, just what was wrong with Perriman that he wanted to go elsewhere?
It should be noted, that I think, OBJ will be the Browns' Tyreek Hill, courtesy of Dorsey.
and, Mr. Canton Mike actually has been bringing up OBJ trade to the Browns to me for months. It got worse this off-season.
I kept thinking "oh, lol, here we go again..."
When he called and told me, I figured he was just being a goof.
Nope. They really DID make the trade?
Dammit. Now Canton Mike is going to be a pain. Yes, I was freaking wrong.
dammit.
lol
btw, just what was wrong with Perriman that he wanted to go elsewhere?
Thanks Cal. As you recall, right after OBJ signed with the Giants last year, I said he would be a Brown in 2019. Now I still want Higgins too.
Mike
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Garafalo just stated Beckham is a Brown!
OH YEAH!!!
Mike
Garafalo just stated Beckham is a Brown!
OH YEAH!!!
Mike
Tell, you what Mike. When you told me LAST SPRING you had this feeling OBJ would be a Cleveland Brown within the next year - I thought you got into your grandson's glue. Another time you brought it up, I didn't want to buzz kill those nice cold Leg Humpers you were powering down. All I could say is I'll believe that when I see it. I almost called you an ambulance when you said "Just remember who told you first." Well done my man!
Way to go Dorsey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In Dorsey I trust but if I were the GM, I don’t make this trade. Perriman just agreed to terms and he could have been just as productive at 1/4 of the price and the ego. Package 17 and a few picks to move up and get an ILB. Keep Peppers.
I wanted to get Devin White.. But that aint happening now..
I wanted to get Devin White.. But that aint happening now..
I wanted him too, but I just want to see how many more rabbits Dorsey can pull out of his magic hat!!! Don't rule ANYTHING out!
Mike
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A little over 14 months ago the Browns completed an 0-16 season.
John Dorsey ain't fucking around.
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Goodbye Rod Streater.....OBJ may want that number 13!!
Mike
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God if you want to laugh a bit go on over and visit the Giants Reddit, its going through a nuclear holocaust.
God if you want to laugh a bit go on over and visit the Giants Reddit, its going through a nuclear holocaust.
I can't remember anything like this.Browns fans now have targets on them ?.lmao..personally, I can't wait to watch the Mike Florio's,Rodney Harrison's & Rod Woodson's of the world, squirm like a worm talking Browns....Steve Smith sounds like he wants to hide under a rock..Wear that Browns garb with pride fellas & Enjoy this Ride..far well deserved..
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Regarding Perriman, it remains to be seen if his one season in Cleveland cured his dropitis, the reason the Ravens parted ways with him.
One thing that's not debatable is Beckham has some of the best hands in the NFL.
Baltimore was history. What about Perriman did you not love last year? Speed, height, caught everything thrown to him. He was a monster.
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He rounds off his routes. Not a crisp route runner at all.
Maybe so but he got open and made outstanding play after play. Listen, I’m a Browns fan and I love Dorsey and everything he’s done to date. So if he’s happy with this move, so am I. However, IMHO, we didn’t need OBJ. Mayfield had plenty of targets in Jarvis, Calloway, Perriman, Higgins on reasonable contracts and team oriented mentalities. The more pressing need was defense. We have the D-line now but need to improve the other position groups - especially linebackers. I guess we will see in 8 months if this was the right move. Dorsey has proved me wrong two or three times already!
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He rounds off his routes. Not a crisp route runner at all.
Maybe so but he got open and made outstanding play after play. Listen, I’m a Browns fan and I love Dorsey and everything he’s done to date. So if he’s happy with this move, so am I. However, IMHO, we didn’t need OBJ. Mayfield had plenty of targets in Jarvis, Calloway, Perriman, Higgins on reasonable contracts and team oriented mentalities. The more pressing need was defense. We have the D-line now but need to improve the other position groups - especially linebackers. I guess we will see in 8 months if this was the right move. Dorsey has proved me wrong two or three times already!
Maybe so but he got open and made outstanding play after play. Listen, I’m a Browns fan and I love Dorsey and everything he’s done to date. So if he’s happy with this move, so am I. However, IMHO, we didn’t need OBJ. Mayfield had plenty of targets in Jarvis, Calloway, Perriman, Higgins on reasonable contracts and team oriented mentalities. The more pressing need was defense. We have the D-line now but need to improve the other position groups - especially linebackers. I guess we will see in 8 months if this was the right move. Dorsey has proved me wrong two or three times already!
Frenchie I am with you... We waited nearly 20 years with the new Browns to get here. I was OK making some strides into the upcoming year with the base team we had last year..
Here are my fears.. If we start gutting what made the team special last year by getting rid of core people like Peppers and Fells and Zeitler and likely Johnson(the next shoe to drop) we are going to lose the total buy in we got from our team last year.. I can only hope that all these big egos and big names(AND BIG PAYCHECKS) doesn't turn us into gun for hire team. We did so well last year with a bunch of nobodies and rookies..
I fear we are also eating our seed corn for a fast climb up the ladder.. But I will be bitterly disappointed if we do really well next year(unless we actually win the SB) only to find the next season we have to start over again because all these big names want us to show them the money...
For now I will bask in the glory that we suddenly find ourselves in... No games have been played in 2019, so the sky is the limit.. I will trust Dorsey. And I will trust the process.
But HOW we get to the top to me is very important.. I don't want a team filled with big egos and guns for hire.
BobPound!
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Baking up Turnovers said:
Great. Another loud mouth know it all player. Him and Baker are perfect for each other I guess. What is Dorsey doing?
Fall down a well, shithead.
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Trade has been revised ..... as part of the deal we swap back the 4th and 5th round picks we exchanged in the Vewrnon trade ....so now we have 155 again
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Saw some potential fallout on another board what this might mean- at least from the Giants perspective.... If Kingsbury really is going to shop Rosen & take Murray, the #17 the G-Men got from the Browns would be plenty enough to get that deal done...
Saw some potential fallout on another board what this might mean- at least from the Giants perspective.... If Kingsbury really is going to shop Rosen & take Murray, the #17 the G-Men got from the Browns would be plenty enough to get that deal done...
So they traded OBJ for potentially Rosen and Peppers?
And then you wait ten years trying to find Rosen the next OBJ...
Zombo
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Saw some potential fallout on another board what this might mean- at least from the Giants perspective.... If Kingsbury really is going to shop Rosen & take Murray, the #17 the G-Men got from the Browns would be plenty enough to get that deal done...
So they traded OBJ for potentially Rosen and Peppers?
And then you wait ten years trying to find Rosen the next OBJ...
Zombo
Zombo said:
So they traded OBJ for potentially Rosen and Peppers?
And then you wait ten years trying to find Rosen the next OBJ...
Zombo
You're generally don't need an elite WR to win a SB. But having a great QB is much more important. (Whether or not Rosen is great remains to be seen)
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In every game of poker, if you dont know who the sucker is within 2 minutes of sitting down... it's you.
Dorsey correctly identified one of the worst GM's in the league and is taking advantage.
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