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So, nasty Jew hater Omar married her...brother, so he could come here?

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    cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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    Any actual creditable source or the usually garbage that gets posted here by the TDIMS?

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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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      https://www.apnews.com/cc2ccd70de56405098d2f259bf0e46c5

      U. S.  Attorneys office under Trump declined comment which 99% of the time translates to "nah,  we good". 

      This was started by - you guessed it,  political bloggers.  With no definitive proof either way.   

      Me,  personally?  If it's untrue and she can or cares to prove that,  then I would pursue libel chargers on said outlet. 

      News regardless of affiliation needs to be more accountable.  Period.  Fines,  especially on groups like CNN,  Fox,  etc etc should be more common when libel suits are present. 

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        https://www.apnews.com/cc2ccd70de56405098d2f259bf0e46c5

        U. S.  Attorneys office under Trump declined comment which 99% of the time translates to "nah,  we good". 

        This was started by - you guessed it,  political bloggers.  With no definitive proof either way.   

        Me,  personally?  If it's untrue and she can or cares to prove that,  then I would pursue libel chargers on said outlet. 

        News regardless of affiliation needs to be more accountable.  Period.  Fines,  especially on groups like CNN,  Fox,  etc etc should be more common when libel suits are present. 

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        cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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        @tiamat63 said:

        https://www.apnews.com/cc2ccd70de56405098d2f259bf0e46c5

        U. S.  Attorneys office under Trump declined comment which 99% of the time translates to "nah,  we good". 

        This was started by - you guessed it,  political bloggers.  With no definitive proof either way.   

        Me,  personally?  If it's untrue and she can or cares to prove that,  then I would pursue libel chargers on said outlet. 

        News regardless of affiliation needs to be more accountable.  Period.  Fines,  especially on groups like CNN,  Fox,  etc etc should be more common when libel suits are present. 

        What a non surprise, I'm sure baby cow will post an apology for posting more misinformation/fake news. 

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          "Well she hasn't refuted it so it must be true!"

          Lul

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            Trump never refuted he has klinefelters, otherwise known as babydick. So that simply must be true as well.☕

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              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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              It simply must

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              • cccjwhC cccjwh

                Any actual creditable source or the usually garbage that gets posted here by the TDIMS?

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                Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                @cccjwh said:

                Any actual creditable source or the usually garbage that gets posted here by the TDIMS?

                A liberal asking for a credible source...hilarious!

                Paging Mueller...Mueller?

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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                  unfortunately for woodpecker, cleve and ccc mz the pussy,

                  the evidence is coming in. The left loves fake narratives as "fact" when it makes them happy.

                  They hate evidence (like higgardly, obamao, lynch, etc, lied and committed crimes) because it makes them UNhappy.

                  https://alphanewsmn.com/new-evidence-supports-claims-that-ilhan-omar-married-her-brother/

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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        unfortunately for woodpecker, cleve and ccc mz the pussy,

                        the evidence is coming in. The left loves fake narratives as "fact" when it makes them happy.

                        They hate evidence (like higgardly, obamao, lynch, etc, lied and committed crimes) because it makes them UNhappy.

                        https://alphanewsmn.com/new-evidence-supports-claims-that-ilhan-omar-married-her-brother/

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                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        unfortunately for woodpecker, cleve and ccc mz the pussy the pussy,

                        the evidence is coming in. The left loves fake narratives as "fact" when it makes them happy.

                        They hate evidence (like higgardly, obamao, lynch, etc, lied and committed crimes) because it makes them UNhappy.

                        https://alphanewsmn.com/new-evidence-supports-claims-that-ilhan-omar-married-her-brother/

                        http://www.alphanewsdaily.com

                        I rest my case. It's a Zionist rag outfit on roids 

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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          unfortunately for woodpecker, cleve and ccc mz the pussy the pussy,

                          the evidence is coming in. The left loves fake narratives as "fact" when it makes them happy.

                          They hate evidence (like higgardly, obamao, lynch, etc, lied and committed crimes) because it makes them UNhappy.

                          https://alphanewsmn.com/new-evidence-supports-claims-that-ilhan-omar-married-her-brother/

                          http://www.alphanewsdaily.com

                          I rest my case. It's a Zionist rag outfit on roids 

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                          GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by Gorka
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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          http://www.alphanewsdaily.com

                          I rest my case. It's a Zionist rag outfit on roids 

                          You might want to check that again. Cals link was AlphaNews out of Minnesota...yours was AlphaNewsDaily and not some Zionist news source but rather some sort of Bible study site.

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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            http://www.alphanewsdaily.com

                            I rest my case. It's a Zionist rag outfit on roids 

                            You might want to check that again. Cals link was AlphaNews out of Minnesota...yours was AlphaNewsDaily and not some Zionist news source but rather some sort of Bible study site.

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                            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                            @gorka said:

                            You might want to check that again. Cals link was AlphaNews out of Minnesota...yours was AlphaNewsDaily and not some Zionist news source but rather some sort of Bible study site.

                            Hmm. When I googled his link tho....interesting. Very interesting

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                              @cccjwh said:

                              Any actual creditable source or the usually garbage that gets posted here by the TDIMS?

                              A liberal asking for a credible source...hilarious!

                              Paging Mueller...Mueller?

                              3E2BBB9B-4672-41A9-8059-063D13889395.jpeg

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                              cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by cccjwh
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                              @canton-dawg said:

                              A liberal asking for a credible source...hilarious!

                              Paging Mueller...Mueller?

                              3E2BBB9B-4672-41A9-8059-063D13889395.jpeg

                              Sorry you don't understand what the word creditable means. To you sources are only creditable if you agree with them. Which is why you aren't creditable. 

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                                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                Just wanted to mention that its among anti-semites the word Zionist is most often used.

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                                  Just wanted to mention that its among anti-semites the word Zionist is most often used.

                                  WSS

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                                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  Just wanted to mention that its among anti-semites the word Zionist is most often used.

                                  WSS

                                  He's got a point. 

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                                    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                    Reading up on the matter, this story seems likely to be bullshit.

                                    The story originated from verified trolls Laura Loomer and Jacob Wohl, who's openly admitted to running multiple twitter accounts, falsely reporting an attack on himself to the police, and admitted to creating fake stories to purposely influence elections. 

                                    The fact that some of the more far right members of this board and others in the media picked up this non-story and ran with it as fact comes as no surprise:

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                                    "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      unfortunately for woodpecker, cleve and ccc mz the pussy the pussy,

                                      the evidence is coming in. The left loves fake narratives as "fact" when it makes them happy.

                                      They hate evidence (like higgardly, obamao, lynch, etc, lied and committed crimes) because it makes them UNhappy.

                                      https://alphanewsmn.com/new-evidence-supports-claims-that-ilhan-omar-married-her-brother/

                                      http://www.alphanewsdaily.com

                                      I rest my case. It's a Zionist rag outfit on roids 

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                                      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      http://www.alphanewsdaily.com

                                      I rest my case. It's a Zionist rag outfit on roids 

                                      @gorka said:

                                      You might want to check that again. Cals link was AlphaNews out of Minnesota...yours was AlphaNewsDaily and not some Zionist news source but rather some sort of Bible study site.

                                      Read into this whatever you will:

                                      MediaBiasFactCheck: Alpha News

                                      Factual Reporting: MIXED

                                      "Notes: Alpha News is a Minnesota online news network, they report the latest political news from the Capitol as well as local stories about government spending. According to a Star Tribune article dated March 11, 2015 — Alpha News Chief Capitol reporter Julia Erynn describes Alpha News as a “news organization” that generates revenue from advertising, and also private donors providing financial support.  According to Star Tribune “The launch of Alpha News was first promoted today by the Minnesota Tea Party Alliance on Facebook. Many of the initial news stories from Alpha News cover issues which have been advocated by the Minnesota Tea Party Alliance.”

                                      Alpha News reports news with poor sourcing such as using a Facebook page as a primary source: Gun-Control Group Issues Apology after Blaming Pro 2nd Amendment Groups and referring to their own experiences such as here: Anti-Sharia, ANTIFA, and Assault. They demonstrate right wing bias in reporting through advocating the Tea Party platform and publishing articles that almost always favor the right. They are mixed for factual reporting due to very poor sourcing. (M. Huitsing 8/16/2017)"

                                      "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                        Using a Facebook page as a primary source..........bwaaaahahahahahahahahahaahahhahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahah

                                        <insert facepalm meme>

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                                          https://cis.org/North/SomaliaBorn-Candidate-Congress-Accused-ImmigrationMarriage-Fraud

                                          Somalia-Born Candidate for Congress Accused of Immigration/Marriage Fraud

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                                          By David North on October 19, 2018
                                           
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                                          The Democratic candidate for a safe seat in the U.S. House of Representatives stands accused of immigration/marriage fraud and bigamy. The district is in Minnesota.

                                          More precisely, Somalia-born, now-naturalized Ilhan Omar is accused of marrying her own brother while being married to another, as well as misuse of campaign funds, two probably unrelated matters.

                                          The apparently cosmopolitan Omar, 36, is said to have used $3,000 in campaign funds for personal travel, including a trip to Estonia. The somewhat jumbled AP account of these events fails to explain why she went to that little country, which seems to be distant from either her background or her political ambitions.

                                          Omar admits the marriage, more or less her second, to Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, and says that he is not her brother, but refuses to release any documents or specific information to support her story.

                                          Omar's political skills — no matter to whom she is (or was) married — are remarkable. She unseated the senior member of the Minnesota legislature in a Democratic primary two years ago and, it being a strong Democratic district, she was unopposed in the fall of 2016. She is the first Somali elected to that body, and will be the first in the U.S. House if elected next month.

                                          Next, the congressman for her district, Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), another Muslim, narrowly failed to become chairman of the Democratic National Committee last year and opted this year to seek office as the Minnesota attorney general (a position once held by Walter Mondale, later a senator, a vice president, and an ambassador to Japan). This left an open seat in the national House (it is mostly the city of Minneapolis) and she again secured the Democratic nomination.

                                          We wrote about an earlier chapter of this saga two years ago, when she was about to be elected to the Minnesota House of Representatives. What we have here is a story about a successful young woman who has put together what may be immigration-related marriage fraud by adroitly using a combination of:

                                          • U.S. law to get (presumably) a green card for Elmi;
                                          • The ongoing chaos in Somalia, which she says eliminated the possibility of obtaining birth certificates for herself or her alleged brother;
                                          • Traditional marriages and divorces (i.e., unrecorded with the authorities) when they met her or her alleged brother's needs; and
                                          • A huge dollop of luck.

                                          The luck includes a substantial amount of governmental non-curiosity; the U.S. Attorney's Office in the last year of the Obama administration, according to the AP story, said it was not investigating the marriage-fraud charges; that might be attributed to political tilt.

                                          And then, for almost two years of the Trump administration, there has been no (or no announced) investigation of the same charges, which either indicates that she is as clean as a whistle or that the new U.S. attorney is asleep at the switch.

                                          Another bit of luck: When the press started paying attention to the matter, it found a reporter with an alarming lack of knowledge of America's immigration policies; to quote the AP report:

                                          Conservative online sites have alleged that Elmi is Omar's brother and she married him to commit immigration fraud.

                                          It's unclear exactly what type of fraud is alleged, but spouses of U.S. citizens typically have a quicker path to citizenship than siblings, though neither is guaranteed citizenship.

                                          The basic concept that a marriage of a citizen to an alien grants that alien a green card seems to have missed our correspondent. And while it is true that a spouse of a citizen has a three-year wait for naturalization, and a sibling of one has a five-year wait, that is hardly a motivation for marriage fraud.

                                          One more bit of luck for the future member of Congress: Elmi, who she says is a British citizen, apparently is in London and no journalist or fed has bothered to talk to him.

                                          In the AP story, Omar's replies to all this are those of the victim combined with overtones of the royal "we":

                                          "We choose not to further the narratives of those who would oppose us" Omar's statement said, adding that she believes the claims are being made by people who want to stop a black, female Muslim from sitting in Congress.

                                          The chronology of all this, briefly, follows:

                                          • 1982 — Born in Somalia;
                                          • 1991 — Went to refugee camp in Kenya;
                                          • 1995 — Came to United States as a refugee, becoming a citizen at some later point;
                                          • 2002 — Took out a marriage license to marry Ahmed Hirsi (AKA Ahmed Aden), but did not marry him except in a Muslim ceremony; they had two kids;
                                          • 2008 — Parted from Hirsi; a Muslim divorce, not recorded, took place;
                                          • 2009 — Married Ahmed Elmi; a marriage certificate exists;
                                          • 2011 — Parted from Elmi, with a Muslim divorce;
                                          • 2012 — Reunited with Hirsi and had a third child;
                                          • 2017 — Formally divorced Elmi (after being elected to the legislature);
                                          • 2018 — Married (re-married?) Hirsi and was nominated for Congress.

                                          At the very least, a busy lady — one with a fondness for guys named Ahmed.


                                          In my 2016 posting I wrote that she had been born in Eritrea, which is not correct. Both Somalia and Eritrea are adjacent to Ethiopia and both are former Italian colonies.

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