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  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    I wouldn’t the surprised if the Giants traded up to get Haskins, in order to prevent another QB needy team from doing so

    NYG brass was all at Kyler Murray's Pro-Day workout today. And it's been reported that they are all going to dinner tonite together.

    @tour2ma said:

    NYG brass was all at Kyler Murray's Pro-Day workout today. And it's been reported that they are all going to dinner tonite together.

    Do you think Murray won’t be taken #1 overall? 

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    I wouldn’t the surprised if the Giants traded up to get Haskins, in order to prevent another QB needy team from doing so

    NYG brass was all at Kyler Murray's Pro-Day workout today. And it's been reported that they are all going to dinner tonite together.

    @tour2ma said:

    NYG brass was all at Kyler Murray's Pro-Day workout today. And it's been reported that they are all going to dinner tonite together.

    Was Sam Wyche attending as well? 🙂

  • @the-gipper said:

    Wouldn't be surprised if the Dolphins try to trade up for Haskins to beat the Giants to the punch there.

    I wouldn’t the surprised if the Giants traded up to get Haskins, in order to prevent another QB needy team from doing so

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    I wouldn’t the surprised if the Giants traded up to get Haskins, in order to prevent another QB needy team from doing so

    Yep, that too!

  • @tour2ma said:

    NYG brass was all at Kyler Murray's Pro-Day workout today. And it's been reported that they are all going to dinner tonite together.

    Do you think Murray won’t be taken #1 overall? 

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Do you think Murray won’t be taken #1 overall? 

    All we can say is that if the Cardinals want him, he is theirs for the taking.   Kliff Kingsbury, a college coach wants to run a college offense, why should they deny him if they were going to hire him.

    IF they don't take him.....then who would?  would the Giants want him to run their offense?  Does not seem a fit.  

    Miami or Washington move up?

  • @tour2ma said:

    NYG brass was all at Kyler Murray's Pro-Day workout today. And it's been reported that they are all going to dinner tonite together.

    Do you think Murray won’t be taken #1 overall? 

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Do you think Murray won’t be taken #1 overall? 

    In one way or the other, I think he will go no later than #3 and be the first QB taken. He's apparently looked strong today at his pro day (although he didn't run the 40 or get remeasured). The hype train is going to come off the rails the next month or so and someone will trade up OR Cardinals take him #1. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    NYG brass was all at Kyler Murray's Pro-Day workout today. And it's been reported that they are all going to dinner tonite together.

    Do you think Murray won’t be taken #1 overall? 

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Do you think Murray won’t be taken #1 overall? 

    I would not bet against it, but cannot see AZ picking him.

    And I think NYG is more likely to take Haskins.

  • A 3rd for Rosen is the play. 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    I'm more concerned about the FG kicker than the backup QB.

    A game, even a half of a football game where a back-up needs to play to potentially win isn't something to scoff at in the NFL. Being concerned about the primary back-up at the most important position on the field isn't something to gloss over. 

    @jrb12711 said:

    A game, even a half of a football game where a back-up needs to play to potentially win isn't something to scoff at in the NFL. Being concerned about the primary back-up at the most important position on the field isn't something to gloss over. 

    If we had a competent FG kicker last season, we're in the playoffs.

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Do you think Murray won’t be taken #1 overall? 

    I would not bet against it, but cannot see AZ picking him.

    And I think NYG is more likely to take Haskins.

    @tour2ma said:

    I would not bet against it, but cannot see AZ picking him.

    And I think NYG is more likely to take Haskins.

    Agree, Haskins will be the first QB off the board.

  • @tour2ma said:

    I would not bet against it, but cannot see AZ picking him.

    And I think NYG is more likely to take Haskins.

    Agree, Haskins will be the first QB off the board.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Haskins will be the first QB off the board.

    Not me... you can feel Murray's stock rising from the gushing over what I saw to be his pretty mediocre Pro Day.

    I think it's a coin flip between Murray and Bosa for #1 overall

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Haskins will be the first QB off the board.

    Not me... you can feel Murray's stock rising from the gushing over what I saw to be his pretty mediocre Pro Day.

    I think it's a coin flip between Murray and Bosa for #1 overall

    @tour2ma said:

    Not me... you can feel Murray's stock rising from the gushing over what I saw to be his pretty mediocre Pro Day.

    I think it's a coin flip between Murray and Bosa for #1 overall

    Whomever gets Murray has bought fool's gold in the NFL IMO. He didn't run the 40 because he stuffed himself too much for combine weight and could not shed it fast enough to regain speed for Pro day. So now you get a slower version who still throws high arching lollipops long distances. A safety's dream.

  • CLIPBOARD JESUS!! 

  • As far as kicker is concerned Gostkowski remains unsigned

  • As far as kicker is concerned Gostkowski remains unsigned

    @darren15 said:

    As far as kicker is concerned Gostkowski remains unsigned

    I think he'll take a hometown discount to stay with Pats his family is embedded in Boston.

    Z

  • CLIPBOARD JESUS!! 

    @domcucch1994 said:

    CLIPBOARD JESUS!! 

    NOW we're talkin

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  • @canton-dawg said:

    Haskins will be the first QB off the board.

    Not me... you can feel Murray's stock rising from the gushing over what I saw to be his pretty mediocre Pro Day.

    I think it's a coin flip between Murray and Bosa for #1 overall

    @tour2ma said:

    Not me... you can feel Murray's stock rising from the gushing over what I saw to be his pretty mediocre Pro Day.

    I think it's a coin flip between Murray and Bosa for #1 overall

    Well, yea, it comes down to "style of play".

    If the Cards had not selected a new HC who wants to run his hairyhighschoolhorseshit offense, then Murray's evaluation would be maybe mid 1st round. Instead, they may think that Murray would be right to run his style.  

    Maybe they are right.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Haskins will be the first QB off the board.

    Not me... you can feel Murray's stock rising from the gushing over what I saw to be his pretty mediocre Pro Day.

    I think it's a coin flip between Murray and Bosa for #1 overall

    @tour2ma said:

    Not me... you can feel Murray's stock rising from the gushing over what I saw to be his pretty mediocre Pro Day.

    I think it's a coin flip between Murray and Bosa for #1 overall

    Curious why you think it was mediocre. Most in attendance publicly or otherwise thought he looked incredibly strong throwing the football. I honestly didn't watch a second of it though so I'm wondering what you saw.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/13/kyler-murray-pro-day-oklahoma-nfl-draft

  • @tour2ma said:

    Not me... you can feel Murray's stock rising from the gushing over what I saw to be his pretty mediocre Pro Day.

    I think it's a coin flip between Murray and Bosa for #1 overall

    Curious why you think it was mediocre. Most in attendance publicly or otherwise thought he looked incredibly strong throwing the football. I honestly didn't watch a second of it though so I'm wondering what you saw.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/13/kyler-murray-pro-day-oklahoma-nfl-draft

    @jrb12711 said:

    Curious why you think it was mediocre. Most in attendance publicly or otherwise thought he looked incredibly strong throwing the football. I honestly didn't watch a second of it though so I'm wondering what you saw.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/13/kyler-murray-pro-day-oklahoma-nfl-draft

    I suspect that Tour thinks that any workout in shorts and no pads, and against no defenders, where all you are doing is throwing to spots is pretty useless.   I basically agree with that.  Also,  He did not perform any other drills.....didn't run the 40, didn't run the cones, etc. 

    I am basically of the opinion that if the combine and the pro day workouts together amount to anything more than 5% of a team's evaluation of a player, that team is stupid.   Especially in the case of a QB.  I mean, we know how badly Tom Brady performed at his combine workouts.  I don't know that they had them back in that day, but how well do you think Bernie Kosar would have done?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Not me... you can feel Murray's stock rising from the gushing over what I saw to be his pretty mediocre Pro Day.

    I think it's a coin flip between Murray and Bosa for #1 overall

    Whomever gets Murray has bought fool's gold in the NFL IMO. He didn't run the 40 because he stuffed himself too much for combine weight and could not shed it fast enough to regain speed for Pro day. So now you get a slower version who still throws high arching lollipops long distances. A safety's dream.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Whomever gets Murray has bought fool's gold in the NFL IMO. He didn't run the 40 because he stuffed himself too much for combine weight and could not shed it fast enough to regain speed for Pro day. So now you get a slower version who still throws high arching lollipops long distances. A safety's dream.

    I think you are onto something there, Ag. He did weigh in at OU's Pro Day and was down 2# from the Combine...

    Interestingly he passed on having his height remeasured... lol...

    @jrb12711 said:

    Curious why you think it was mediocre. Most in attendance publicly or otherwise thought he looked incredibly strong throwing the football. I honestly didn't watch a second of it though so I'm wondering what you saw.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/13/kyler-murray-pro-day-oklahoma-nfl-draft

    His velocity was good... very good even. Ball came out of his hand strong. And his deep ball throws were pretty good as well... high arching.

    That said...

    What I saw, that Todd McShay and others apparently did not, was a lack of accuracy.

    However, several balls hit the ground and his WRs saved a few more with circus catches especially on the out routes he tried to crank.

    It was a good workout to be sure... far from the Teddy B disaster we saw years ago... but IMO it wasn't the "gushworthy" performance I heard many talking heads proclaim it to be.

  • Uncle Fester ‘s boy just got cut. AJ McCarren,  Chucky must have seen enough.