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  • Now I will have to dig out where in Ireland my great-grandmother was born. I bet she was the one that gave me my Spanish genes from the Armada though.???‍♀️??

    @texasag1969 said:

    Now I will have to dig out where in Ireland my great-grandmother was born. I bet she was the one that gave me my Spanish genes from the Armada though.???‍♀️??

    That, of course, is a myth.

    My grandfather was from Rearcross.  The home he grew up in was still in the family until recently.

  • Wear Green or be pinched!

  • Now I will have to dig out where in Ireland my great-grandmother was born. I bet she was the one that gave me my Spanish genes from the Armada though.???‍♀️??

    @texasag1969 said:

    Now I will have to dig out where in Ireland my great-grandmother was born. I bet she was the one that gave me my Spanish genes from the Armada though.???‍♀️??

    Do a DNA test and see if you really have any spanish dna.  You might be surprise.d

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Now I will have to dig out where in Ireland my great-grandmother was born. I bet she was the one that gave me my Spanish genes from the Armada though.???‍♀️??

    Do a DNA test and see if you really have any spanish dna.  You might be surprise.d

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Do a DNA test and see if you really have any spanish dna.  You might be surprise.d

    It was a DNA test and it was 28% traceable to far SW France and the Iberian peninsula (Spain/Portugal).

  • But is there really any difference?  The countries are so close to each other I doubt there is anything different.   

  • But is there really any difference?  The countries are so close to each other I doubt there is anything different.   

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    But is there really any difference?  The countries are so close to each other I doubt there is anything different.   

    Well there is the fact that the Iberian peninsula was occupied for about 8 centuries by the Moors out of the middle east via N. Africa. Certainly explains my straight black hair and somewhat darker skin tone than most from the British isles.

    http://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/

  • so you're technically an African American.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    But is there really any difference?  The countries are so close to each other I doubt there is anything different.   

    Well there is the fact that the Iberian peninsula was occupied for about 8 centuries by the Moors out of the middle east via N. Africa. Certainly explains my straight black hair and somewhat darker skin tone than most from the British isles.

    http://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well there is the fact that the Iberian peninsula was occupied for about 8 centuries by the Moors out of the middle east via N. Africa. Certainly explains my straight black hair and somewhat darker skin tone than most from the British isles.

    http://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHMt2_7SKX30cFVLD0A7-

    Like this you Spanish Peacock?

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Do a DNA test and see if you really have any spanish dna.  You might be surprise.d

    It was a DNA test and it was 28% traceable to far SW France and the Iberian peninsula (Spain/Portugal).

    @texasag1969 said:

    It was a DNA test and it was 28% traceable to far SW France and the Iberian peninsula (Spain/Portugal).

    But it did not come from your Irish side.  Like I said, my mother was Black Irish.....no Iberian at all.

    You had a Spanish/SW French grandparent.

    What were there names?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Well there is the fact that the Iberian peninsula was occupied for about 8 centuries by the Moors out of the middle east via N. Africa. Certainly explains my straight black hair and somewhat darker skin tone than most from the British isles.

    http://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHMt2_7SKX30cFVLD0A7-

    Like this you Spanish Peacock?

    @the-gipper said:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHMt2_7SKX30cFVLD0A7-

    Like this you Spanish Peacock?

    If I looked like Sean Connery I would not be here on the Browns Board. I'd be living the good life in Spain.???

  • @texasag1969 said:

    It was a DNA test and it was 28% traceable to far SW France and the Iberian peninsula (Spain/Portugal).

    But it did not come from your Irish side.  Like I said, my mother was Black Irish.....no Iberian at all.

    You had a Spanish/SW French grandparent.

    What were there names?

    @the-gipper said:

    But it did not come from your Irish side.  Like I said, my mother was Black Irish.....no Iberian at all.

    You had a Spanish/SW French grandparent.

    What were there names?

    I suspect it came from multiple sources, but no particular person am aware of. For example I know I am 1/8 Irish from a great grandmother and my wife is 1/4 Irish from a grandmother. That is two we are aware of for sure, but there can still be multiple other part Irish through marriages that add to the DNA pool of our kids. Who knows really. And  I don't even know if some of those Irish came from someone or more who came from Spain. All I know is that I share 28% DNA in common with people from the Iberian peninsula. Oh and about 3% in common with Neaderthal, which my wife says explains 100% of everything.?

  • @the-gipper said:

    But it did not come from your Irish side.  Like I said, my mother was Black Irish.....no Iberian at all.

    You had a Spanish/SW French grandparent.

    What were there names?

    I suspect it came from multiple sources, but no particular person am aware of. For example I know I am 1/8 Irish from a great grandmother and my wife is 1/4 Irish from a grandmother. That is two we are aware of for sure, but there can still be multiple other part Irish through marriages that add to the DNA pool of our kids. Who knows really. And  I don't even know if some of those Irish came from someone or more who came from Spain. All I know is that I share 28% DNA in common with people from the Iberian peninsula. Oh and about 3% in common with Neaderthal, which my wife says explains 100% of everything.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    I suspect it came from multiple sources, but no particular person am aware of. For example I know I am 1/8 Irish from a great grandmother and my wife is 1/4 Irish from a grandmother. That is two we are aware of for sure, but there can still be multiple other part Irish through marriages that add to the DNA pool of our kids. Who knows really. And  I don't even know if some of those Irish came from someone or more who came from Spain. All I know is that I share 28% DNA in common with people from the Iberian peninsula. Oh and about 3% in common with Neaderthal, which my wife says explains 100% of everything.?

    Again, with 28%  Iberian,  one of your grandparents, I would say, was mostly Spanish or Portuguese  (what were your grandparents maiden names?).

    3% Neanderthal seems a lot.   3 one hundreth of a percent maybe.  No one should have that much Neanderthal.  It has been to long since they have been extinct.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I suspect it came from multiple sources, but no particular person am aware of. For example I know I am 1/8 Irish from a great grandmother and my wife is 1/4 Irish from a grandmother. That is two we are aware of for sure, but there can still be multiple other part Irish through marriages that add to the DNA pool of our kids. Who knows really. And  I don't even know if some of those Irish came from someone or more who came from Spain. All I know is that I share 28% DNA in common with people from the Iberian peninsula. Oh and about 3% in common with Neaderthal, which my wife says explains 100% of everything.?

    Again, with 28%  Iberian,  one of your grandparents, I would say, was mostly Spanish or Portuguese  (what were your grandparents maiden names?).

    3% Neanderthal seems a lot.   3 one hundreth of a percent maybe.  No one should have that much Neanderthal.  It has been to long since they have been extinct.

    @the-gipper said:

    Again, with 28%  Iberian,  one of your grandparents, I would say, was mostly Spanish or Portuguese  (what were your grandparents maiden names?).

    3% Neanderthal seems a lot.   3 one hundreth of a percent maybe.  No one should have that much Neanderthal.  It has been to long since they have been extinct.

    We all knew that Tex was overly neanderthal?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I suspect it came from multiple sources, but no particular person am aware of. For example I know I am 1/8 Irish from a great grandmother and my wife is 1/4 Irish from a grandmother. That is two we are aware of for sure, but there can still be multiple other part Irish through marriages that add to the DNA pool of our kids. Who knows really. And  I don't even know if some of those Irish came from someone or more who came from Spain. All I know is that I share 28% DNA in common with people from the Iberian peninsula. Oh and about 3% in common with Neaderthal, which my wife says explains 100% of everything.?

    Again, with 28%  Iberian,  one of your grandparents, I would say, was mostly Spanish or Portuguese  (what were your grandparents maiden names?).

    3% Neanderthal seems a lot.   3 one hundreth of a percent maybe.  No one should have that much Neanderthal.  It has been to long since they have been extinct.

    @the-gipper said:

    Again, with 28%  Iberian,  one of your grandparents, I would say, was mostly Spanish or Portuguese  (what were your grandparents maiden names?).

    3% Neanderthal seems a lot.   3 one hundreth of a percent maybe.  No one should have that much Neanderthal.  It has been to long since they have been extinct.

    I think you have a basic misconception of how the DNA passing along works. You don't get 25% Irish DNA because you had an Irish grandparent. Irish people have a lot of shared DNA from all over Europe, Arabia, Africa, etc. not just Ireland because of human migration out of Africa through Arabia, etc. That occurred only 10s of thousands of years ago, not millions. or even hundreds of thousands. They also now understand there was a lot of interbreeding with Neanderthal and the usual amount for Northern Europeans is about 1% of their DNA in common  with Neanderthal. Since there is a lot of evidence Neanderthal lived mostly in southern and southwestern Europe, I am not surprised by the fact mine ran about 3% in common along with that Iberian DNA in common.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Again, with 28%  Iberian,  one of your grandparents, I would say, was mostly Spanish or Portuguese  (what were your grandparents maiden names?).

    3% Neanderthal seems a lot.   3 one hundreth of a percent maybe.  No one should have that much Neanderthal.  It has been to long since they have been extinct.

    I think you have a basic misconception of how the DNA passing along works. You don't get 25% Irish DNA because you had an Irish grandparent. Irish people have a lot of shared DNA from all over Europe, Arabia, Africa, etc. not just Ireland because of human migration out of Africa through Arabia, etc. That occurred only 10s of thousands of years ago, not millions. or even hundreds of thousands. They also now understand there was a lot of interbreeding with Neanderthal and the usual amount for Northern Europeans is about 1% of their DNA in common  with Neanderthal. Since there is a lot of evidence Neanderthal lived mostly in southern and southwestern Europe, I am not surprised by the fact mine ran about 3% in common along with that Iberian DNA in common.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I think you have a basic misconception of how the DNA passing along works. You don't get 25% Irish DNA because you had an Irish grandparent. Irish people have a lot of shared DNA from all over Europe, Arabia, Africa, etc. not just Ireland because of human migration out of Africa through Arabia, etc. That occurred only 10s of thousands of years ago, not millions. or even hundreds of thousands. They also now understand there was a lot of interbreeding with Neanderthal and the usual amount for Northern Europeans is about 1% of their DNA in common  with Neanderthal. Since there is a lot of evidence Neanderthal lived mostly in southern and southwestern Europe, I am not surprised by the fact mine ran about 3% in common along with that Iberian DNA in common.

    I am like  99.1%  British/Irish and  other Northern European I have no Neanderthal, no Iberian, no Troglodyte.

    And you DO have had to have had a close relation...or 2, to get 28% of your DNA from a particular area.  My  great grandmother was Dutch giving me the N. Euro blood.  

    If you didn't get your Iberian blood from a fairly close relative, then it came from eating too much TexMex and that has seeped into your blood!!

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I think you have a basic misconception of how the DNA passing along works. You don't get 25% Irish DNA because you had an Irish grandparent. Irish people have a lot of shared DNA from all over Europe, Arabia, Africa, etc. not just Ireland because of human migration out of Africa through Arabia, etc. That occurred only 10s of thousands of years ago, not millions. or even hundreds of thousands. They also now understand there was a lot of interbreeding with Neanderthal and the usual amount for Northern Europeans is about 1% of their DNA in common  with Neanderthal. Since there is a lot of evidence Neanderthal lived mostly in southern and southwestern Europe, I am not surprised by the fact mine ran about 3% in common along with that Iberian DNA in common.

    I am like  99.1%  British/Irish and  other Northern European I have no Neanderthal, no Iberian, no Troglodyte.

    And you DO have had to have had a close relation...or 2, to get 28% of your DNA from a particular area.  My  great grandmother was Dutch giving me the N. Euro blood.  

    If you didn't get your Iberian blood from a fairly close relative, then it came from eating too much TexMex and that has seeped into your blood!!

    @the-gipper said:

    I am like  99.1%  British/Irish and  other Northern European I have no Neanderthal, no Iberian, no Troglodyte.

    And you DO have had to have had a close relation...or 2, to get 28% of your DNA from a particular area.  My  great grandmother was Dutch giving me the N. Euro blood.  

    If you didn't get your Iberian blood from a fairly close relative, then it came from eating too much TexMex and that has seeped into your blood!!

    So who did the testing?

  • Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."

    https://owlcation.com/stem/Irish-Blood-Genetic-Identity

  • Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."

    https://owlcation.com/stem/Irish-Blood-Genetic-Identity

    @texasag1969 said:

    Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."

    https://owlcation.com/stem/Irish-Blood-Genetic-Identity

    He was just an Irish drunk who was messing around with them roman women.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I am like  99.1%  British/Irish and  other Northern European I have no Neanderthal, no Iberian, no Troglodyte.

    And you DO have had to have had a close relation...or 2, to get 28% of your DNA from a particular area.  My  great grandmother was Dutch giving me the N. Euro blood.  

    If you didn't get your Iberian blood from a fairly close relative, then it came from eating too much TexMex and that has seeped into your blood!!

    So who did the testing?

    @texasag1969 said:

    So who did the testing?

    23 and me

  • Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."

    https://owlcation.com/stem/Irish-Blood-Genetic-Identity

    @texasag1969 said:

    Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."

    https://owlcation.com/stem/Irish-Blood-Genetic-Identity

    So 5200 years ago would be between 175 and 200 generations ago. At most you would or should have beat about a 1/4 of 1%. But you have 28%