Kareem Hunt suspended 8 games
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Again, with the time on the Exempt list....it was more like a 13 game or more suspension....so you got what you want.
I think the games missed is retro to the sentence so to speak.. meaning.. when KC cut him.. I think they're counting these games (2018) as well..
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Is allowed to practice and play with the team through out the summer and pre-season.
That. Is. Huge.
Duke is all but expendable now because Hunt should have all the mental reps he'll need and be able to contribute every down once he's back.
Duke is all but expendable now because Hunt should have all the mental reps he'll need and be able to contribute every down once he's back.
So 2 RBs until week 9?
unless there’s a rookie in the mix.
1. Chubb
2. Hilliard
3. Rookie?
Personally I don’t see Duke as a RB, but more of a weapon.
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Duke has great hands, he isn't going anywhere with that length of suspension. BTW Hunt deserved every game he received, no excuses for domestic violence, period!
Duke has great hands, he isn't going anywhere with that length of suspension. BTW Hunt deserved every game he received, no excuses for domestic violence, period!
It was a love tap. 4 games max...givwn the current climate
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Again, with the time on the Exempt list....it was more like a 13 game or more suspension....so you got what you want.
I think the games missed is retro to the sentence so to speak.. meaning.. when KC cut him.. I think they're counting these games (2018) as well..
I think the games missed is retro to the sentence so to speak.. meaning.. when KC cut him.. I think they're counting these games (2018) as well..
If they don't, they should. After all, Usually when someone is cut, they can be picked up right away and put into the lineup. Putting Hunt on the exempt list excluded any team from doing that. If anyone had signed him, the NFL would not let him play. If that isn't a suspension, what is it?
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Duke is all but expendable now because Hunt should have all the mental reps he'll need and be able to contribute every down once he's back.
So 2 RBs until week 9?
unless there’s a rookie in the mix.
1. Chubb
2. Hilliard
3. Rookie?
Personally I don’t see Duke as a RB, but more of a weapon.
So 2 RBs until week 9?
unless there’s a rookie in the mix.
1. Chubb
2. Hilliard
3. Rookie?
Personally I don’t see Duke as a RB, but more of a weapon.
Yes, no, that is why getting rid of him, imo, would be dumb. And yes, he is a weapon....one that can run and one that can catch. All teams want a guy like that.
If we got rid of him....we would need to look for someone just like him. And I do not believe Hilliard...or Chubb....are that guy.
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So 2 RBs until week 9?
unless there’s a rookie in the mix.
1. Chubb
2. Hilliard
3. Rookie?
Personally I don’t see Duke as a RB, but more of a weapon.
Yes, no, that is why getting rid of him, imo, would be dumb. And yes, he is a weapon....one that can run and one that can catch. All teams want a guy like that.
If we got rid of him....we would need to look for someone just like him. And I do not believe Hilliard...or Chubb....are that guy.
Yes, no, that is why getting rid of him, imo, would be dumb. And yes, he is a weapon....one that can run and one that can catch. All teams want a guy like that.
If we got rid of him....we would need to look for someone just like him. And I do not believe Hilliard...or Chubb....are that guy.
It will be fun seeing who teams chose to dble team.. Pick your poison..
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OK now do we grab CJ Anderson on a 1 year deal ? or draft a RB in rounds 5-7 ?
As Duke will still be traded in my opinion
OK now do we grab CJ Anderson on a 1 year deal ? or draft a RB in rounds 5-7 ? As Duke will still be traded in my opinion
Only a question of when the trade happens.
NFL in-season trade deadline is usually at the end of October. That would put Hunt back in our lineup before the deadline.
So IMO, unless Dors gets "an offer he can't refuse", you hold onto Duke for now and then around mid-season when some team(s) will be desperate for an RB you fleece 'em.
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Again, with the time on the Exempt list....it was more like a 13 game or more suspension....so you got what you want.
I said that because I believe that you have to play 6 regular games to accrue (right term? #secondlanguage) a season. In my mind, we would hold his rights for one more season while we would have him for a playoff run. But maybe I was wrong and playoff games count too.
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OK now do we grab CJ Anderson on a 1 year deal ? or draft a RB in rounds 5-7 ? As Duke will still be traded in my opinion
Only a question of when the trade happens.
NFL in-season trade deadline is usually at the end of October. That would put Hunt back in our lineup before the deadline.
So IMO, unless Dors gets "an offer he can't refuse", you hold onto Duke for now and then around mid-season when some team(s) will be desperate for an RB you fleece 'em.
Only a question of when the trade happens.
NFL in-season trade deadline is usually at the end of October. That would put Hunt back in our lineup before the deadline.
So IMO, unless Dors gets "an offer he can't refuse", you hold onto Duke for now and then around mid-season when some team(s) will be desperate for an RB you fleece 'em.
Exactamundo Tour. Should Chubb get hurt before Hunt's suspension is over, minus Duke, we're up shit Creek at running back. I'm sure Dorsey will take that possibility into account before he decides to move Johnson.
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Again, with the time on the Exempt list....it was more like a 13 game or more suspension....so you got what you want.
I said that because I believe that you have to play 6 regular games to accrue (right term? #secondlanguage) a season. In my mind, we would hold his rights for one more season while we would have him for a playoff run. But maybe I was wrong and playoff games count too.
I said that because I believe that you have to play 6 regular games to accrue (right term? #secondlanguage) a season. In my mind, we would hold his rights for one more season while we would have him for a playoff run. But maybe I was wrong and playoff games count too.
Two things.
1) Dorsey doesn't want to get a bad rap among players shafting Hunt to control his rights for another year.
2) Signing OBJ says it's win now mode. Bet the ranch Kareem is activated the second the rules say he can be.
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Again, with the time on the Exempt list....it was more like a 13 game or more suspension....so you got what you want.
I said that because I believe that you have to play 6 regular games to accrue (right term? #secondlanguage) a season. In my mind, we would hold his rights for one more season while we would have him for a playoff run. But maybe I was wrong and playoff games count too.
I said that because I believe that you have to play 6 regular games to accrue (right term? #secondlanguage) a season. In my mind, we would hold his rights for one more season while we would have him for a playoff run. But maybe I was wrong and playoff games count too.
I think we only signed him to a one year deal.
I also think that it is only the team that originally drafts someone that retains those 5 year rights. If he gets cut by that original team....he is then a pure free agent, free to deal with whomever....no matter how many years he has in the league.
If that is wrong, please advise.
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I don’t fully understand the logic in not appealing the length of the suspension? Does he somehow think by doing that the whole world will sigh and proclaim, “he really IS an ok dude. He served his time...”
If memory serves, it’s his first official offense, and it seems that any past players who have appealed similar decisions for a first offense get anywhere from 2 games to half the sentence lopped off.
It’s not like the NFL is the actual court system with pages and pages of regulations for things like this. They pretty much make it up as they go and hope it appeases the court of public opinion. It’s kind of asinine from a business perspective why he wouldn’t appeal.
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I don’t fully understand the logic in not appealing the length of the suspension? Does he somehow think by doing that the whole world will sigh and proclaim, “he really IS an ok dude. He served his time...”
If memory serves, it’s his first official offense, and it seems that any past players who have appealed similar decisions for a first offense get anywhere from 2 games to half the sentence lopped off.
It’s not like the NFL is the actual court system with pages and pages of regulations for things like this. They pretty much make it up as they go and hope it appeases the court of public opinion. It’s kind of asinine from a business perspective why he wouldn’t appeal.
I don’t fully understand the logic in not appealing the length of the suspension? Does he somehow think by doing that the whole world will sigh and proclaim, “he really IS an ok dude. He served his time...”
If memory serves, it’s his first official offense, and it seems that any past players who have appealed similar decisions for a first offense get anywhere from 2 games to half the sentence lopped off.
It’s not like the NFL is the actual court system with pages and pages of regulations for things like this. They pretty much make it up as they go and hope it appeases the court of public opinion. It’s kind of asinine from a business perspective why he wouldn’t appeal.
Precisely, they make it up as they go, and appeals are often dismissed...
In addition....it really may not have been considered his "first offense". The NFL's investigation was apparently also looking into 2 other incidents......so in essence, they may have viewed those as "prior offenses"...to this incident with the girl at The Nine.
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I don’t fully understand the logic in not appealing the length of the suspension? Does he somehow think by doing that the whole world will sigh and proclaim, “he really IS an ok dude. He served his time...”
If memory serves, it’s his first official offense, and it seems that any past players who have appealed similar decisions for a first offense get anywhere from 2 games to half the sentence lopped off.
It’s not like the NFL is the actual court system with pages and pages of regulations for things like this. They pretty much make it up as they go and hope it appeases the court of public opinion. It’s kind of asinine from a business perspective why he wouldn’t appeal.
Precisely, they make it up as they go, and appeals are often dismissed...
In addition....it really may not have been considered his "first offense". The NFL's investigation was apparently also looking into 2 other incidents......so in essence, they may have viewed those as "prior offenses"...to this incident with the girl at The Nine.
Precisely, they make it up as they go, and appeals are often dismissed...
In addition....it really may not have been considered his "first offense". The NFL's investigation was apparently also looking into 2 other incidents......so in essence, they may have viewed those as "prior offenses"...to this incident with the girl at The Nine.
Josh Gordon, Ray Rice and Tom Brady all come to mind as players who have appealed first infractions and had their suspensions reduced.
You may be on to something though with the “2 other incidents” thing. Has it even been reported what those incidents were? If not, appealing would probably bring them to light, and Kareem probably could use less bad publicity, so 8 games it is...
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I said that because I believe that you have to play 6 regular games to accrue (right term? #secondlanguage) a season. In my mind, we would hold his rights for one more season while we would have him for a playoff run. But maybe I was wrong and playoff games count too.
I think we only signed him to a one year deal.
I also think that it is only the team that originally drafts someone that retains those 5 year rights. If he gets cut by that original team....he is then a pure free agent, free to deal with whomever....no matter how many years he has in the league.
If that is wrong, please advise.
I think we only signed him to a one year deal.
I also think that it is only the team that originally drafts someone that retains those 5 year rights. If he gets cut by that original team....he is then a pure free agent, free to deal with whomever....no matter how many years he has in the league.
If that is wrong, please advise.
I think he is not meaning on a rookie deal, but any deal. I don't know the rule, but hes meaning accrue for the 1 year deal. Think Leveon Bell. When he was originally going to come back, he was going to do it right before his play wouldn't have effected his FA. Last year never counted, so Pitt could have done the same thing and not have had the multiplier with tag
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I said that because I believe that you have to play 6 regular games to accrue (right term? #secondlanguage) a season. In my mind, we would hold his rights for one more season while we would have him for a playoff run. But maybe I was wrong and playoff games count too.
I think we only signed him to a one year deal.
I also think that it is only the team that originally drafts someone that retains those 5 year rights. If he gets cut by that original team....he is then a pure free agent, free to deal with whomever....no matter how many years he has in the league.
If that is wrong, please advise.
I think we only signed him to a one year deal.
I also think that it is only the team that originally drafts someone that retains those 5 year rights. If he gets cut by that original team....he is then a pure free agent, free to deal with whomever....no matter how many years he has in the league.
If that is wrong, please advise.
Nope- apparently FA rights depend on accrued years of service: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/kareem-hunt-21828/
Straight out of the NFL bylaws...
"In the 2018 league year, players with three accrued seasons who have received a qualifying offer become restricted free agents when their contracts expire at the end of the 2017 league year on March 14.
Unrestricted free agents have completed four or more accrued seasons. Upon expiration of his 2017 contract, an unrestricted free agent can sign with any club with no draft choice compensation owed to his old club."
To jog your memory a bit- the Patriots were able to slap a second round tender on Gordon, even though they didn't draft him...
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I think we only signed him to a one year deal.
I also think that it is only the team that originally drafts someone that retains those 5 year rights. If he gets cut by that original team....he is then a pure free agent, free to deal with whomever....no matter how many years he has in the league.
If that is wrong, please advise.
I think he is not meaning on a rookie deal, but any deal. I don't know the rule, but hes meaning accrue for the 1 year deal. Think Leveon Bell. When he was originally going to come back, he was going to do it right before his play wouldn't have effected his FA. Last year never counted, so Pitt could have done the same thing and not have had the multiplier with tag
I think he is not meaning on a rookie deal, but any deal. I don't know the rule, but hes meaning accrue for the 1 year deal. Think Leveon Bell. When he was originally going to come back, he was going to do it right before his play wouldn't have effected his FA. Last year never counted, so Pitt could have done the same thing and not have had the multiplier with tag
Bell was a different case- with different rules... Le'veon already had four accrued seasons in 2017, and was eligible to become a UFA. The Steelers slapped Franchise Tag #1 on him, which he signed. Bellyachin' Bell couldn't come to an agreement with Pittsburgh- so the Steelers slapped Franchise Tag #2 on him, which he didn't sign. This year, the Steelers only options were to hit Bell with Franchise Tag #3, paying him Cousins\ Rodgers money, trying to work out a sign & trade, or let him walk. We know how that turned out.
So it would seem whether a player signs his franchise tag or not- it still counts against the team that's trying to franchise him. It was uncharted territory, as Bell was the first player IIRC to go that route and not sign the tag.
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I think he is not meaning on a rookie deal, but any deal. I don't know the rule, but hes meaning accrue for the 1 year deal. Think Leveon Bell. When he was originally going to come back, he was going to do it right before his play wouldn't have effected his FA. Last year never counted, so Pitt could have done the same thing and not have had the multiplier with tag
Bell was a different case- with different rules... Le'veon already had four accrued seasons in 2017, and was eligible to become a UFA. The Steelers slapped Franchise Tag #1 on him, which he signed. Bellyachin' Bell couldn't come to an agreement with Pittsburgh- so the Steelers slapped Franchise Tag #2 on him, which he didn't sign. This year, the Steelers only options were to hit Bell with Franchise Tag #3, paying him Cousins\ Rodgers money, trying to work out a sign & trade, or let him walk. We know how that turned out.
So it would seem whether a player signs his franchise tag or not- it still counts against the team that's trying to franchise him. It was uncharted territory, as Bell was the first player IIRC to go that route and not sign the tag.
Bell was a different case- with different rules... Le'veon already had four accrued seasons in 2017, and was eligible to become a UFA. The Steelers slapped Franchise Tag #1 on him, which he signed. Bellyachin' Bell couldn't come to an agreement with Pittsburgh- so the Steelers slapped Franchise Tag #2 on him, which he didn't sign. This year, the Steelers only options were to hit Bell with Franchise Tag #3, paying him Cousins\ Rodgers money, trying to work out a sign & trade, or let him walk. We know how that turned out.
So it would seem whether a player signs his franchise tag or not- it still counts against the team that's trying to franchise him. It was uncharted territory, as Bell was the first player IIRC to go that route and not sign the tag.
From my understanding, and yes I know it's a different example, just using it to loosely connect it, is that it wouldn't have counted as 3rd tag, as last year wasn't accrued.
But like I said, I didn't look up the rule. Just what I thought the poster was meaning by his post about accrued. I could certainly be wrong, it has happened once in my life lol jk
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Bell was a different case- with different rules... Le'veon already had four accrued seasons in 2017, and was eligible to become a UFA. The Steelers slapped Franchise Tag #1 on him, which he signed. Bellyachin' Bell couldn't come to an agreement with Pittsburgh- so the Steelers slapped Franchise Tag #2 on him, which he didn't sign. This year, the Steelers only options were to hit Bell with Franchise Tag #3, paying him Cousins\ Rodgers money, trying to work out a sign & trade, or let him walk. We know how that turned out.
So it would seem whether a player signs his franchise tag or not- it still counts against the team that's trying to franchise him. It was uncharted territory, as Bell was the first player IIRC to go that route and not sign the tag.
From my understanding, and yes I know it's a different example, just using it to loosely connect it, is that it wouldn't have counted as 3rd tag, as last year wasn't accrued.
But like I said, I didn't look up the rule. Just what I thought the poster was meaning by his post about accrued. I could certainly be wrong, it has happened once in my life lol jk
From my understanding, and yes I know it's a different example, just using it to loosely connect it, is that it wouldn't have counted as 3rd tag, as last year wasn't accrued.
But like I said, I didn't look up the rule. Just what I thought the poster was meaning by his post about accrued. I could certainly be wrong, it has happened once in my life lol jk
and what I was saying was- it wouldn't have mattered if it was an accrued season or not- Bell already had enough accrued seasons. The Steelers tagged him a second time. Which counted in the progressive UFA scale, at least to my understanding. So it was pay Bell top QB money, or let him walk.
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