Happy St. Patrick's Day
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I think you have a basic misconception of how the DNA passing along works. You don't get 25% Irish DNA because you had an Irish grandparent. Irish people have a lot of shared DNA from all over Europe, Arabia, Africa, etc. not just Ireland because of human migration out of Africa through Arabia, etc. That occurred only 10s of thousands of years ago, not millions. or even hundreds of thousands. They also now understand there was a lot of interbreeding with Neanderthal and the usual amount for Northern Europeans is about 1% of their DNA in common with Neanderthal. Since there is a lot of evidence Neanderthal lived mostly in southern and southwestern Europe, I am not surprised by the fact mine ran about 3% in common along with that Iberian DNA in common.
I am like 99.1% British/Irish and other Northern European I have no Neanderthal, no Iberian, no Troglodyte.
And you DO have had to have had a close relation...or 2, to get 28% of your DNA from a particular area. My great grandmother was Dutch giving me the N. Euro blood.
If you didn't get your Iberian blood from a fairly close relative, then it came from eating too much TexMex and that has seeped into your blood!!
I am like 99.1% British/Irish and other Northern European I have no Neanderthal, no Iberian, no Troglodyte.
And you DO have had to have had a close relation...or 2, to get 28% of your DNA from a particular area. My great grandmother was Dutch giving me the N. Euro blood.
If you didn't get your Iberian blood from a fairly close relative, then it came from eating too much TexMex and that has seeped into your blood!!
So who did the testing?
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Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."
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Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."
Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."
He was just an Irish drunk who was messing around with them roman women.
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I am like 99.1% British/Irish and other Northern European I have no Neanderthal, no Iberian, no Troglodyte.
And you DO have had to have had a close relation...or 2, to get 28% of your DNA from a particular area. My great grandmother was Dutch giving me the N. Euro blood.
If you didn't get your Iberian blood from a fairly close relative, then it came from eating too much TexMex and that has seeped into your blood!!
So who did the testing?
So who did the testing?
23 and me
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Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."
Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."
So 5200 years ago would be between 175 and 200 generations ago. At most you would or should have beat about a 1/4 of 1%. But you have 28%
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Here. Read it and weep. "Analysis of the remains of a 5,200 year-old Irish farmer suggested that the population of Ireland at that time was closely genetically related to the modern-day populations of southern Europe, especially Spain and Sardinia. Her ancestors, however, originally migrated from the Middle East, the cradle of agriculture."
So 5200 years ago would be between 175 and 200 generations ago. At most you would or should have beat about a 1/4 of 1%. But you have 28%
So 5200 years ago would be between 175 and 200 generations ago. At most you would or should have beat about a 1/4 of 1%. But you have 28%
Read the whole article.
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So 5200 years ago would be between 175 and 200 generations ago. At most you would or should have beat about a 1/4 of 1%. But you have 28%
Read the whole article.
Read the whole article.
The math still holds. Even if some Irish came from Iberia, it would still mean only a sliver of Iberian blood would last until this day....unless all those Iberian Celts continued to interbreed right into the early 1900s. Which I do not believe happened.
As I have said, my mother was "Black Irish" The families original Gaelic name is O'Duibhir. (pronounced O'devere or O'dwier)...it means "pale sallow" essentially, and was applied to people who had dark hair but pale skin.
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Read the whole article.
The math still holds. Even if some Irish came from Iberia, it would still mean only a sliver of Iberian blood would last until this day....unless all those Iberian Celts continued to interbreed right into the early 1900s. Which I do not believe happened.
As I have said, my mother was "Black Irish" The families original Gaelic name is O'Duibhir. (pronounced O'devere or O'dwier)...it means "pale sallow" essentially, and was applied to people who had dark hair but pale skin.
The math still holds. Even if some Irish came from Iberia, it would still mean only a sliver of Iberian blood would last until this day....unless all those Iberian Celts continued to interbreed right into the early 1900s. Which I do not believe happened.
I believe that article and National Geographics' more scientifically based Geno 2.0 over 23 & me. They include graphic displays of the migration patterns with timelines that you can start and run through history showing exactly what genes came from where and when in time. I would suggest you give it a try. Well worth the asking price.
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The math still holds. Even if some Irish came from Iberia, it would still mean only a sliver of Iberian blood would last until this day....unless all those Iberian Celts continued to interbreed right into the early 1900s. Which I do not believe happened.
I believe that article and National Geographics' more scientifically based Geno 2.0 over 23 & me. They include graphic displays of the migration patterns with timelines that you can start and run through history showing exactly what genes came from where and when in time. I would suggest you give it a try. Well worth the asking price.
I believe that article and National Geographics' more scientifically based Geno 2.0 over 23 & me. They include graphic displays of the migration patterns with timelines that you can start and run through history showing exactly what genes came from where and when in time. I would suggest you give it a try. Well worth the asking price.
Well, the only real surprise was the fact that we had no Native American blood in us. My Dad always said we did, but an aunt said we didn't. My aunt was right.
Like I said, other than that , I knew what the basic makeup was going to be. Scotch/Irish, with some Dutch.
The only thing specific I don't know exactly is when my Dad's family immigrated to America. It was pre-Revolution so sometime between 1607 and 1775.
I think I may have told you this before, but I had thought there might be a chance that we could have gone back to 1608.....as a person of my exact name came to Jamestown with Capt. John Smith that year. But later records showed no trace of him ...or any descendants of his, being there in 1624. He either starved to death, got killed by Indians, or went back to England.
On my mother's side I know precisely when immigration to America occurred: 1946....aboard the Queen Mary from England to NYC to the train depot that sits only about a half mile from me right now.
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I believe that article and National Geographics' more scientifically based Geno 2.0 over 23 & me. They include graphic displays of the migration patterns with timelines that you can start and run through history showing exactly what genes came from where and when in time. I would suggest you give it a try. Well worth the asking price.
Well, the only real surprise was the fact that we had no Native American blood in us. My Dad always said we did, but an aunt said we didn't. My aunt was right.
Like I said, other than that , I knew what the basic makeup was going to be. Scotch/Irish, with some Dutch.
The only thing specific I don't know exactly is when my Dad's family immigrated to America. It was pre-Revolution so sometime between 1607 and 1775.
I think I may have told you this before, but I had thought there might be a chance that we could have gone back to 1608.....as a person of my exact name came to Jamestown with Capt. John Smith that year. But later records showed no trace of him ...or any descendants of his, being there in 1624. He either starved to death, got killed by Indians, or went back to England.
On my mother's side I know precisely when immigration to America occurred: 1946....aboard the Queen Mary from England to NYC to the train depot that sits only about a half mile from me right now.
Well, the only real surprise was the fact that we had no Native American blood in us. My Dad always said we did, but an aunt said we didn't. My aunt was right.
Like I said, other than that , I knew what the basic makeup was going to be. Scotch/Irish, with some Dutch.
The only thing specific I don't know exactly is when my Dad's family immigrated to America. It was pre-Revolution so sometime between 1607 and 1775.
I think I may have told you this before, but I had thought there might be a chance that we could have gone back to 1608.....as a person of my exact name came to Jamestown with Capt. John Smith that year. But later records showed no trace of him ...or any descendants of his, being there in 1624. He either starved to death, got killed by Indians, or went back to England.
On my mother's side I know precisely when immigration to America occurred: 1946....aboard the Queen Mary from England to NYC to the train depot that sits only about a half mile from me right now.
Interesting. My kids are both eligible for The Mayflower Society through my wife since they are all direct descendants of John Howland and Elizabeth Tilley who landed there at Plymouth Rock aboard the original. Howland is the guy who fell overboard during the voyage, but saved himself by grabbing a trailing halyard in the water. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Howland
EDIT: Before got my Geno 2.0 result back I had always assumed I had American Indian in me because of the straight black hair and skin that always just got browner in summertime. One of my grandmothers used to call me her little Mexican because of wearing only shorts with no shoes, socks or shirt just turned me into a little brown berry. So when it came back with no native American, but a high % Iberian (think Moorish) it was a surprise, but not really.
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But is there really any difference? The countries are so close to each other I doubt there is anything different.
Well there is the fact that the Iberian peninsula was occupied for about 8 centuries by the Moors out of the middle east via N. Africa. Certainly explains my straight black hair and somewhat darker skin tone than most from the British isles.
http://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/
Well there is the fact that the Iberian peninsula was occupied for about 8 centuries by the Moors out of the middle east via N. Africa. Certainly explains my straight black hair and somewhat darker skin tone than most from the British isles.
http://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/
You're over 70 and you have black hair without hair coloring? Picture please.
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Well there is the fact that the Iberian peninsula was occupied for about 8 centuries by the Moors out of the middle east via N. Africa. Certainly explains my straight black hair and somewhat darker skin tone than most from the British isles.
http://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/
You're over 70 and you have black hair without hair coloring? Picture please.
You're over 70 and you have black hair without hair coloring? Picture please.
There is a little gray in it now too, but it's still 90+ black. My mom was only half gray when she died at 87+. The rest was black like mine. All my friends from college accuse me of using Grecian Formula (they are now pure white or gray) and I always accuse my barber of planting more gray hair in my scalp. I think it's the portrait I keep in the attic that's doing the trick. LOL!??️
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I had guys in my unit in Coronado that were going gray at 30.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I had guys in my unit in Coronado that were going gray at 30.
I had guys in my unit in Coronado that were going gray at 30.
Ronald Reagan mostly kept his dark hair until he died in his 80s. I don't think that he colored it, did he?
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so you're technically an African American.
so you're technically an African American.
That’s funny
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Didn’t one of those DNA sites catch a serial killer from 70’s and 80’s?
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I had guys in my unit in Coronado that were going gray at 30.
I had guys in my unit in Coronado that were going gray at 30.
My wife has to color her hair once a month or it's 90+% gray. She tells people I don't get gray hair, I give it.??
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