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Stallworth released early today for good behavior

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  • chocoC choco

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Yep. Lets just execute all the criminals, that will really fly. Prison is so mean, it cost's so much. Life is a bitch. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, bottom line. Prison is a punishment, not a rehabilitation. Screw rehab. I would rather have them suffer for 40 years then execute them. I could care less if a murdering child killer gets rehabed or not.

    wow....you're tough.

    what you call punishment is so effective that we never have repeat offenders....now do we?

    so your against capital punishment......which side of the political spectrum supports capital punishment? hmmmm.....

    ahh....you must be a neocon. and liberals are the pussies? wow, thats actually funny.....

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    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    @choco said:

    wow....you're tough.

    what you call punishment is so effective that we never have repeat offenders....now do we?

    so your against capital punishment......which side of the political spectrum supports capital punishment? hmmmm.....

    ahh....you must be a neocon. and liberals are the pussies? wow, thats actually funny.....

    I'm all for capital punishment in certain circumstances. But if someone wants to die, I would rather have them locked up in a small cell for 23 hours a day. Get it now?

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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    • gregG greg

      @diehardbrownsfan said:

      So Greg, you are a convicted felon coming on here telling me and everyone else how to treat you. LMAO. Give me a xxxxing break.

      Just speaking within my realm of experience and trying to shed some light for those that haven't walked in the shoes. And not telling anyone how to treat me, just advising them to vote accordingly if serving as a juror and/or to write their Representatives if they'll admit to themselves what a mess things are.

      Being on the back end and so close to a lucrative retirement of plentiful SSI and military pension, plus having had your fill of adventures and excitement in life already you're probably a lost cause in this effort DHBF. And I warn you, don't ever do anything wrong you could be prosecuted for for the rest of your life, or I just might have to laugh in your face. And not because I've been, but because you think it could never happen to you. 😉

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      @greg said:

      Just speaking within my realm of experience and trying to shed some light for those that haven't walked in the shoes. And not telling anyone how to treat me, just advising them to vote accordingly if serving as a juror and/or to write their Representatives if they'll admit to themselves what a mess things are.

      Being on the back end and so close to a lucrative retirement of plentiful SSI and military pension, plus having had your fill of adventures and excitement in life already you're probably a lost cause in this effort DHBF. And I warn you, don't ever do anything wrong you could be prosecuted for for the rest of your life, or I just might have to laugh in your face. And not because I've been, but because you think it could never happen to you. 😉

      Never said that Greg. Just a differing opinion from yours. And as far as lucrative pensions, I earned it in the Navy and Army both. Living on a ship is not much different from being in a prison, believe it or not. I was in law enforcement in the Navy, and dealt with people from arrest to conviction. I escorted prisoners to and from Courts Martial. Escorted prisoners across country to where they were being incarcerated, so I'm quite familiar with at least the Military/Federal Corrections system. You sound like an intelligent person, so hopefully you have your act together now and can live out a comfortable rest of your life.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        T Tobalaz wrote on last edited by
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        I don't get it.

        Why is this such a big deal?

        If Stallworthless had been sober he would have walken away scott free since Reyes was running across a 5 lane highway.

        I bet if DS had lit it up last season most here would be thrilled he was getting out early.

        3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.
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        • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

          @greg said:

          Just speaking within my realm of experience and trying to shed some light for those that haven't walked in the shoes. And not telling anyone how to treat me, just advising them to vote accordingly if serving as a juror and/or to write their Representatives if they'll admit to themselves what a mess things are.

          Being on the back end and so close to a lucrative retirement of plentiful SSI and military pension, plus having had your fill of adventures and excitement in life already you're probably a lost cause in this effort DHBF. And I warn you, don't ever do anything wrong you could be prosecuted for for the rest of your life, or I just might have to laugh in your face. And not because I've been, but because you think it could never happen to you. 😉

          Never said that Greg. Just a differing opinion from yours. And as far as lucrative pensions, I earned it in the Navy and Army both. Living on a ship is not much different from being in a prison, believe it or not. I was in law enforcement in the Navy, and dealt with people from arrest to conviction. I escorted prisoners to and from Courts Martial. Escorted prisoners across country to where they were being incarcerated, so I'm quite familiar with at least the Military/Federal Corrections system. You sound like an intelligent person, so hopefully you have your act together now and can live out a comfortable rest of your life.

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          gregG greg wrote on last edited by greg
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          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          Never said that Greg. Just a differing opinion from yours. And as far as lucrative pensions, I earned it in the Navy and Army both. Living on a ship is not much different from being in a prison, believe it or not. I was in law enforcement in the Navy, and dealt with people from arrest to conviction. I escorted prisoners to and from Courts Martial. Escorted prisoners across country to where they were being incarcerated, so I'm quite familiar with at least the Military/Federal Corrections system. You sound like an intelligent person, so hopefully you have your act together now and can live out a comfortable rest of your life.

          No worries. I saw your other avatar last week or so and assumed you were in the military in some way, hence the pension remark I made. I appreciate you serving and hope they take good care of you for your contributions to my freedom. I'm sure we could agree on some other topics like PTSD or maybe the 2nd Amendment, but this one just gets me going. It's a mess DHBF, and it's too taboo for anyone to talk about generally. Many feel they will lose credibility the moment they confess they've been convicted of something and for everyone else on the outside looking in it seems like it's working. I was just a kid who got caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time who has had the opportunity to look through their window personally. Even after spending a few years in the system and being back out among society sometimes I consider making compromises that could affect my freedom to improve my loved one's quality of life. The fact that temptation still exists shows the system isn't working as well as we'd like to think. We are human, I just ask that people allow us to be one. I can follow rules fine, but when there are rules in place that aren't morally conscious or that benefit some but treat others very unfairly it's hard sometimes to abide by them. If there is a god I have no problem with that judgement. It's the judgements of man that I often disagree with.

          Caging people is like a quarantine, the problem doesn't go away, it's just "away". The jails and prisons are full, the nation is broke, we need a new strategy. Right now we can still choose to ignore it, very soon we won't have that option anymore. As my good friend likes to say, "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem."

          Integration has to be on the horizon because our laws make criminals out of "everyday Joes" every single day.

          Oh, one last thing, living on a ship might be a little like jail, but I seriously doubt it's anything like prison. Think about it.

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            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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            The bottom line on Stallworth is his sentence was in line since vehicular manslaughter sentencing is all over the board due to numerous mitigating factors.

            He didn't buy his way out of the situation. The Miami DA isn't going to agree to a lesser charge unless he/she felt there was a better than reasonable chance nothing would stick..

            For all we know there may have been serious flaws in the breath alcohol test that could have easily been nullified by defense counsel..they took the deal that they felt was fair.

            As to the NFL..Goodel can't just keep him on indefinite leave. He is going to have to deal with the issue.

            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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              The difference with Vick is he wasn't in a position to practice and work. Stallworth can.

              Goodell can't use the house arrest as a period to ignore dealing with situation and then start to deal with it whenever that is up...I think that could be challenged on many fronts, starting with the NFLPA.

              I am not going to predict what he may finally impose as a suspension, but past suspensions would seem to indicate 8 games...possibly the season at most

              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                Is there anyone currently playing professional sports who is under house arrest???

                Has there ever been?

                guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                  No idea...????

                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                  • hammertimeH hammertime

                    Is there anyone currently playing professional sports who is under house arrest???

                    Has there ever been?

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                    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                    @hammertime said:

                    Is there anyone currently playing professional sports who is under house arrest???

                    Has there ever been?

                    Honestly, I couldn't give a crap about Stallworth's playing days. He wasn't worth ballsweat in 2008 and then he got a monster bonus to stay for another year. I don't see what the fuss is about this guy. There's a reason Cleveland was already his 4th team. And now he's 4 for 4 in disappointing NFL teams that saw potential in him. Part of being a GREAT professional means putting football first. This guy hasn't done that yet.

                    Furthermore, teenagers with less money are SMART enough to hire limo drivers when they party during prom season. I'll bet MOST of us did that - right? Stallworth is about 10 years older than juniors and seniors in high school so stop excusing his ass.

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                      @hammertime said:

                      Is there anyone currently playing professional sports who is under house arrest???

                      Has there ever been?

                      Honestly, I couldn't give a crap about Stallworth's playing days. He wasn't worth ballsweat in 2008 and then he got a monster bonus to stay for another year. I don't see what the fuss is about this guy. There's a reason Cleveland was already his 4th team. And now he's 4 for 4 in disappointing NFL teams that saw potential in him. Part of being a GREAT professional means putting football first. This guy hasn't done that yet.

                      Furthermore, teenagers with less money are SMART enough to hire limo drivers when they party during prom season. I'll bet MOST of us did that - right? Stallworth is about 10 years older than juniors and seniors in high school so stop excusing his ass.

                      - Tom F.

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                      @flugel said:

                      Honestly, I couldn't give a crap about Stallworth's playing days. He wasn't worth ballsweat in 2008 and then he got a monster bonus to stay for another year. I don't see what the fuss is about this guy. There's a reason Cleveland was already his 4th team. And now he's 4 for 4 in disappointing NFL teams that saw potential in him. Part of being a GREAT professional means putting football first. This guy hasn't done that yet.

                      Furthermore, teenagers with less money are SMART enough to hire limo drivers when they party during prom season. I'll bet MOST of us did that - right? Stallworth is about 10 years older than juniors and seniors in high school so stop excusing his ass.

                      - Tom F.

                      Thank You Tom. I feel better now.

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