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    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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      Open borders, drivers licenses, SSN numbers, voting rights...by all means campaign heavily on all that, it's what blue collar working class middle America has been yearning for.

      And reparations too.

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        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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        And the full quote tells is something different.   How odd.  

        If anything, the comment indicates it would bring illegals to the light,  have them pay into SS,  taxes and the like.   How they determine a path to citizenship afterwards is a plan I would be curious to hear.   But if it is as simple as 'pay taxes' then,  uhh...   Nah, I'm good. 

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          CLOWARD-PIVEN.

          Just thought I'd bring it up again.....

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              And the full quote tells is something different.   How odd.  

              If anything, the comment indicates it would bring illegals to the light,  have them pay into SS,  taxes and the like.   How they determine a path to citizenship afterwards is a plan I would be curious to hear.   But if it is as simple as 'pay taxes' then,  uhh...   Nah, I'm good. 

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              And the full quote tells is something different.   How odd.  

              If anything, the comment indicates it would bring illegals to the light,  have them pay into SS,  taxes and the like.   How they determine a path to citizenship afterwards is a plan I would be curious to hear.   But if it is as simple as 'pay taxes' then,  uhh...   Nah, I'm good. 

              yet, behind the scenes, Tiam, you are missing something, as the left determines that we shouldn't know.

              63% of Non-Citizen Households Access Welfare Programs | Center for ...

              https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs
              Nov 23, 2018 - While most new legal immigrants (green card holders) are barred from most welfare programs, as are illegal immigrants and temporary visitors, ...

              Census confirms: 63 percent of 'non-citizens' on welfare, 4.6 million ...

              https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/.../census-confirms-63-percent-of-non-citizens-...
              Dec 3, 2018 - “Concern over immigrant welfare use is justified, as households headed by ... Non-citizens in the data include illegal immigrants, long-term ..

              Reports: Illegal immigrants receiving Medicaid costs taxpayers $18.5 ...

              https://www.watchdog.org/...illegal-immigrants.../article_6a9860a6-d0bd-11e8-92ed-...
              Oct 19, 2018 - ... consumes 33 percent more cash welfare, 57 percent more food assistance, ... Federal taxes indirectly fund health care for illegal immigrants ..
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                in conclusion, "illegals paying into social security" sounds like a plan? What about that 63% draining us?

                and, how many will never pay into it as much as they get out, because they are already older, are young special education adults,

                it's far more complicated and devious from the left than the initial feel good emotional reward, as most all the time.

                You have to earn 40 credits, 4 per year, that's ten years....

                except all illegals will be given...

                   But they will be grateful to the socialist left and will vote for them you betcha every time.

                NOPE. not buyin it.

                https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/06/30/minimum-social-security-benefit/86460774/

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                  And the full quote tells is something different.   How odd.  

                  If anything, the comment indicates it would bring illegals to the light,  have them pay into SS,  taxes and the like.   How they determine a path to citizenship afterwards is a plan I would be curious to hear.   But if it is as simple as 'pay taxes' then,  uhh...   Nah, I'm good. 

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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  And the full quote tells is something different.   How odd.  

                  If anything, the comment indicates it would bring illegals to the light,  have them pay into SS,  taxes and the like.   How they determine a path to citizenship afterwards is a plan I would be curious to hear.   But if it is as simple as 'pay taxes' then,  uhh...   Nah, I'm good. 

                  I would guess that the reason for hiring an illegal is to pay them less than market value for whatever it is they are doing. That would create its own set of problems trying to determine how much to tax them on their social security.

                  In the second place except on paper and in pipe dreams there's no such thing as a social security trust fund oh, the money gets spent as fast as it comes in and the government hopes it will be able to cover the payments down the line. And wait till the disability lawyers get ahold of poncho and Rosita.

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                    VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                    Come to the country legally and the rest falls into place.

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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      When I lived in Manassas, VA working in DC there used to be a crowd of illegals that would gather in the parking lot of a seven eleve (of which there is about 1 per square mile in VA).  They would wait for construction companies or whomever to pick them up to work at various sites for cash.  If they didn't get work they would sit there and drink beer, pissing in the parking lot and harassing women who walked by.

                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                          When I lived in Manassas, VA working in DC there used to be a crowd of illegals that would gather in the parking lot of a seven eleve (of which there is about 1 per square mile in VA).  They would wait for construction companies or whomever to pick them up to work at various sites for cash.  If they didn't get work they would sit there and drink beer, pissing in the parking lot and harassing women who walked by.

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                            If they didn't get work they would sit there and drink beer, pissing in the parking lot and harassing women who walked by.

                          That's horrible, they should do it from their damn front porches like you do...like a proper "merican dammit. 

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                            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            When is your mom going to kick you out of her basement?

                            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                              When is your mom going to kick you out of her basement?

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                              When is your mom going to kick you out of her basement?

                              no, I think Cleve, AOCCC mz the pussy and the woodpecker share an apartment...

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                                  in conclusion, "illegals paying into social security" sounds like a plan? What about that 63% draining us?

                                  and, how many will never pay into it as much as they get out, because they are already older, are young special education adults,

                                  it's far more complicated and devious from the left than the initial feel good emotional reward, as most all the time.

                                  You have to earn 40 credits, 4 per year, that's ten years....

                                  except all illegals will be given...

                                     But they will be grateful to the socialist left and will vote for them you betcha every time.

                                  NOPE. not buyin it.

                                  https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/06/30/minimum-social-security-benefit/86460774/

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                                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  in conclusion, "illegals paying into social security" sounds like a plan? What about that 63% draining us?

                                  and, how many will never pay into it as much as they get out, because they are already older, are young special education adults,

                                  it's far more complicated and devious from the left than the initial feel good emotional reward, as most all the time.

                                  You have to earn 40 credits, 4 per year, that's ten years....

                                  except all illegals will be given...

                                     But they will be grateful to the socialist left and will vote for them you betcha every time.

                                  NOPE. not buyin it.

                                  https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/06/30/minimum-social-security-benefit/86460774/

                                  Regarding your Cloward post Cal-  Trump is "manufacturing" a border crisis- my POV.  And BTW, the Air Force needs a few billion to rebuild some bases that are damaged. More important than building stupid walls that won't work. https://www.npr.org/2019/03/28/707506544/air-force-needs-almost-5-billion-to-recover-bases-from-hurricane-flood-damage

                                  Truly heartfelt his lackey wants to cut funding for Special Olympics too....  

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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    in conclusion, "illegals paying into social security" sounds like a plan? What about that 63% draining us?

                                    and, how many will never pay into it as much as they get out, because they are already older, are young special education adults,

                                    it's far more complicated and devious from the left than the initial feel good emotional reward, as most all the time.

                                    You have to earn 40 credits, 4 per year, that's ten years....

                                    except all illegals will be given...

                                       But they will be grateful to the socialist left and will vote for them you betcha every time.

                                    NOPE. not buyin it.

                                    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/06/30/minimum-social-security-benefit/86460774/

                                    Regarding your Cloward post Cal-  Trump is "manufacturing" a border crisis- my POV.  And BTW, the Air Force needs a few billion to rebuild some bases that are damaged. More important than building stupid walls that won't work. https://www.npr.org/2019/03/28/707506544/air-force-needs-almost-5-billion-to-recover-bases-from-hurricane-flood-damage

                                    Truly heartfelt his lackey wants to cut funding for Special Olympics too....  

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                                    @hoorta said:

                                    Regarding your Cloward post Cal-  Trump is "manufacturing" a border crisis- my POV.  And BTW, the Air Force needs a few billion to rebuild some bases that are damaged. More important than building stupid walls that won't work. https://www.npr.org/2019/03/28/707506544/air-force-needs-almost-5-billion-to-recover-bases-from-hurricane-flood-damage

                                    Truly heartfelt his lackey wants to cut funding for Special Olympics too....  

                                    But again Special Olympics is a private organization that pays their employees a good book. The amount of money they wouldn't be getting from the federal government should be easily made up from private donations. Should be... Unless the people would have really angry about it won't Pony up. Frankly I don't think public broadcasting should get federal funds but I send them a nice donation at least once, sometimes twice a year.

                                    That doesn't have much to do with the point of border security. I don't think it's a Panacea to build a wall but I think it would probably help.

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                                      Special Olympics doesn't need federal dollars, over 90 percent is from donations.  And build that wall.  The border patrol says it's needed, I go with the experts.  And the Defense budget was over 700 billion dollars, so I'm sure they can find the dollars for the repairs.

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                                        When is your mom going to kick you out of her basement?

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                                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                        When is your mom going to kick you out of her basement?

                                        When ur landlord finally wont take blowjobs from u as rent and tells u to gtfo....☕

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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          in conclusion, "illegals paying into social security" sounds like a plan? What about that 63% draining us?

                                          and, how many will never pay into it as much as they get out, because they are already older, are young special education adults,

                                          it's far more complicated and devious from the left than the initial feel good emotional reward, as most all the time.

                                          You have to earn 40 credits, 4 per year, that's ten years....

                                          except all illegals will be given...

                                             But they will be grateful to the socialist left and will vote for them you betcha every time.

                                          NOPE. not buyin it.

                                          https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/06/30/minimum-social-security-benefit/86460774/

                                          Regarding your Cloward post Cal-  Trump is "manufacturing" a border crisis- my POV.  And BTW, the Air Force needs a few billion to rebuild some bases that are damaged. More important than building stupid walls that won't work. https://www.npr.org/2019/03/28/707506544/air-force-needs-almost-5-billion-to-recover-bases-from-hurricane-flood-damage

                                          Truly heartfelt his lackey wants to cut funding for Special Olympics too....  

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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          Regarding your Cloward post Cal-  Trump is "manufacturing" a border crisis- my POV.  And BTW, the Air Force needs a few billion to rebuild some bases that are damaged. More important than building stupid walls that won't work. https://www.npr.org/2019/03/28/707506544/air-force-needs-almost-5-billion-to-recover-bases-from-hurricane-flood-damage

                                          Truly heartfelt his lackey wants to cut funding for Special Olympics too....  

                                            Well, there isn't any manufacturing going on, Hoorta. Plenty of democrats have said it was a crisis before. How is it NOT a crisis?

                                          Look at the numbers ! How do you define a crisis, dagnabbit?

                                          https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683623555/president-obama-also-faced-a-crisis-at-the-southern-border

                                          In a nationally televised address from the White House, the president warned about an "actual humanitarian crisis on the border" prompted by a surge of migrants from Central America, and urged Congress to take action on his immigration agenda.

                                          The year was 2014, and the

                                          .

                                          and about the wall, can't agree with you at all - it's the border agents themselves who are pleading with America to build sections of walls across major illegal immigration flood points.

                                          I've seen saying it is a crisis since George W. did nothing about it, and all during obaMao years, when he even called it a crisis, and did nothing about it.

                                          NOW our terrific President Trump IS doing something about it and now it "isn't" a crisis?

                                          oi.

                                          My opinion - the wall is an absolutely necessity - straight from the experts' desperate pleas. The dirty corrupt socialist democrats wouldn't give us one dollar to build the wall.

                                          and I can show you that plenty of dems wanted a wall in the past.

                                          Democrats used to call for new barriers on the border — and then ...

                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../democrats-used-call-new-barriers-border-then-some...
                                          Jan 11, 2019 - “We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, ... Hillary Clinton, 2015. ... In other words, there's less immediate demand for a wall than there might have been 13 years ago.

                                          So, here is the problem - the dirty dems screwed around and forced George Bush to raise taxes, after he

                                          promised "no new taxes". THEN, they ridiculed him endlessly for breaking his promise on it.

                                          Same thing with the wall.

                                          You see the hypocrisy that is hurting this country, by the dems. I know it.

                                          And, cutting a little funding to Special Olympics is sad, but they get huge funding privately and the folks who run it make big bucks...but we can't go on - we're in over 21 TRILLION in debt. and growing towards serious disaster. Not even the Fed raising interest rates can prevent us from crashing eventually.

                                              So, I strongly disagree - but I explain why. I don't get the feigned seriousness on issues by the left. Just not buyin it.

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