Duke Johnson Requests Trade
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I'd like to see them bring a big beast of a FB in that can catch out of the backfield when needed. I still think a stout power I with a FB and chubb makes for lots of clean real estate behind the LB'ers for obj and Jarvis
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It's truly a player business move. Play 8, risk injury, to get traded? Name one football player, that does this, to not want to play? I commend Duke on handling this the way he has.. He came in & outplayed Crow many times. Than, not many had Nick Chubb beating out Hyde in year one? not me for one & Hue for 2. So maybe Dorsey did? But Duke imo was seriously under used with Hyde.. Hunt's a unexpected gifted RB talent we added to our roster with nothing but his own career in his own hands to lose. And it still certainly could also blow up in Dorsey's lap.. It's 'not Duke's choices to make. It's a business decision of talent that has already been decided by Dorsey, in Duke's opinion. And a hope on Dorsey's part on what you Trust in business.? As a Duke Johnson fan, I can only wish him well finding the right team & playing time he rightly believes he deserves..Good Luck, Du-u-u-ke ?
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OK, since Ogbah's gone, Duke for Darron Lee anyone? I would give Duke & a mid rounder for Lee in a heartbeat, but Duke may have devalued himself with his being a "no-show" today. Then again, JD may have been holding back until Hunt's on field presence is closer & Duke may have forced his hand. We'll see what happens.
Mike
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I think many fans felt like we never truly used Duke as much as we could have, and I was hoping we'd have another 8 games to try and figure it out. After all, Kitchens was a new OC and we had a crap load of new shite to pull together. Do I understand his frustration about playing? I guess so, a RB only has so much time, but on the other hand, we extended his contract and presumably WANTED him in Cleveland...so whatever. I just always respected him and hate to see him go.
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I think many fans felt like we never truly used Duke as much as we could have, and I was hoping we'd have another 8 games to try and figure it out. After all, Kitchens was a new OC and we had a crap load of new shite to pull together. Do I understand his frustration about playing? I guess so, a RB only has so much time, but on the other hand, we extended his contract and presumably WANTED him in Cleveland...so whatever. I just always respected him and hate to see him go.
I think many fans felt like we never truly used Duke as much as we could have,
Yup. And it was surprising when Kitchens didn't utilize him also. He was our best offensive player for a couple of years. I'll miss him.
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Duke seemed slowed last year, and Hunt is a terrific receiver..
But we basically have Hunt under contract for half a season, so if we trade Duke we still need a third down back, so there goes another draft pick to a less experienced receiver and blocker.
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Zombo said:
Duke seemed slowed last year, and Hunt is a terrific receiver..
But we basically have Hunt under contract for half a season, so if we trade Duke we still need a third down back, so there goes another draft pick to a less experienced receiver and blocker.
Z
CJ Anderson 1 year deal fully guaranteed ?
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While it is true that for a couple of seasons Duke was our best offensive weapon ( hell some games he was our ONLY weapon) I would say that on the current roster he is arguably the fifth or sixth best. From what I understand about the way his contract is structured if the Browns are going to trade him it's in their best interest to do it after June 1. I totally get him not showing up for a voluntary team function to avoid risking an injury and to show his displeasure, but unless the Browns get an offer they can't refuse I don't see him going anywhere soon. Again keeping in mind our current roster I would assume Duke's production could be replaced easily. My biggest fear would be an injury to Chubb, that might cause some regret should they trade Duke.
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While it is true that for a couple of seasons Duke was our best offensive weapon ( hell some games he was our ONLY weapon) I would say that on the current roster he is arguably the fifth or sixth best. From what I understand about the way his contract is structured if the Browns are going to trade him it's in their best interest to do it after June 1. I totally get him not showing up for a voluntary team function to avoid risking an injury and to show his displeasure, but unless the Browns get an offer they can't refuse I don't see him going anywhere soon. Again keeping in mind our current roster I would assume Duke's production could be replaced easily. My biggest fear would be an injury to Chubb, that might cause some regret should they trade Duke.
While it is true that for a couple of seasons Duke was our best offensive weapon ( hell some games he was our ONLY weapon) I would say that on the current roster he is arguably the fifth or sixth best. From what I understand about the way his contract is structured if the Browns are going to trade him it's in their best interest to do it after June 1. I totally get him not showing up for a voluntary team function to avoid risking an injury and to show his displeasure, but unless the Browns get an offer they can't refuse I don't see him going anywhere soon. Again keeping in mind our current roster I would assume Duke's production could be replaced easily. My biggest fear would be an injury to Chubb, that might cause some regret should they trade Duke.
I don't know about replaced easily. Chubb is awesome. Hunt could bust, or could be great. But i'll be damned if Duke couldn't crush it at 3DB without Hunt.
Hunt is talented but it probably left Duke Sour. I don't blame him, If someone tells me they want to build something and then bring in two others guys, i'd be like "screw it" too. I think Dorsey just doesn't like Duke, and loves KC picks better. It's apparent, looking at the pattern.
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I think it’s a bad bad idea to let Duke go. Why not give the guy an expanded role? Make him a FB/H back hybrid type? With Orson Charles gone, Duke is the only back we have left that l trust to lay a block on a free blitzer. Why couldn’t he do that in a lead blocker role where HE’S the one with a head instead of fending off a guy with a head of steam? Oh, and he runs with and catches the ball well. He’s that quintessential “football player” that everyone claims they want on their team.
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I think many fans felt like we never truly used Duke as much as we could have, and I was hoping we'd have another 8 games to try and figure it out. After all, Kitchens was a new OC and we had a crap load of new shite to pull together. Do I understand his frustration about playing? I guess so, a RB only has so much time, but on the other hand, we extended his contract and presumably WANTED him in Cleveland...so whatever. I just always respected him and hate to see him go.
I think many fans felt like we never truly used Duke as much as we could have, and I was hoping we'd have another 8 games to try and figure it out. After all, Kitchens was a new OC and we had a crap load of new shite to pull together. Do I understand his frustration about playing? I guess so, a RB only has so much time, but on the other hand, we extended his contract and presumably WANTED him in Cleveland...so whatever. I just always respected him and hate to see him go.
He isn't necessarily going anywhere. Just because his agent says he may want to.
I want to bed Kaley Cuocco.....don't mean its going to happen.
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Zombo said:
Duke seemed slowed last year, and Hunt is a terrific receiver..
But we basically have Hunt under contract for half a season, so if we trade Duke we still need a third down back, so there goes another draft pick to a less experienced receiver and blocker.
Z
CJ Anderson 1 year deal fully guaranteed ?
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Did someone just say Duke oughta be at FB......sigh
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I think it’s a bad bad idea to let Duke go. Why not give the guy an expanded role? Make him a FB/H back hybrid type? With Orson Charles gone, Duke is the only back we have left that l trust to lay a block on a free blitzer. Why couldn’t he do that in a lead blocker role where HE’S the one with a head instead of fending off a guy with a head of steam? Oh, and he runs with and catches the ball well. He’s that quintessential “football player” that everyone claims they want on their team.
I think it’s a bad bad idea to let Duke go. Why not give the guy an expanded role? Make him a FB/H back hybrid type? With Orson Charles gone, Duke is the only back we have left that l trust to lay a block on a free blitzer. Why couldn’t he do that in a lead blocker role where HE’S the one with a head instead of fending off a guy with a head of steam? Oh, and he runs with and catches the ball well. He’s that quintessential “football player” that everyone claims they want on their team.
Duke Johnson is the Miami hurricanes all time leading rusher. And he’s only proven he can move the ball. It’ll definitely be a loss in Cleveland’s column to lose him because they chose Kareem hunt and Chubb instead but what kind of magic mushrooms are you finding to say he should be a blocking fullback? Good lord. If you’re not strung out than there’s a serious problem that needs fixed
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Duke is exactly the type of player you need in today’s NFL. Baffled by any attempt to move him on
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Now we have to move him. Once players start asking for a trade in the public forum, they become a distraction. Him not being at the workouts is a distraction.
Time to move on. He is replaceable.
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Reactions to signing other top players at their positions (as we did Hunt).....
Baker....."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!"
Landry..."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!"
OBJ......."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!"
Chubb..."Bring 'em on & I'll TAKE 'em on!"
Duke....."WAAA, I'm takin' my ball & going home."
We want & need COMPETITORS, not QUITTERS!
Bye Duke.
Mike
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Various twitter accounts reporting .....apparently we are in talks with the Jets, Texans and Eagles .......Darron Lee from Jets looks a possibility now ..... probably be draft pick from other 2 teams
.....apparently we are in talks with the Jets, Texans and Eagles .......Darron Lee from Jets looks a possibility now ..... probably be draft pick from other 2 teams
Lots of smoke burning on twitter...Tre Boston to announce his new landing spot today/ Tre tweet..believable names mentioned in Duke trade, 1) Jets-LB Darron Lee 2)Texans-LB Brennan Scarlett 3) Philly-CB Rasul Douglas..With no player attached to Duke? I've seen 4th to 6th rounders might get offered up..this deal needs to get done before the draft imo.. This is a Duke/agent players choice..but Dorsey brings his own set of dealing Cards
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I'm still hoping for Darron Lee, but whoever or whatever it is, JD will get 'er done!
Mike
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