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Democrats need to help fix the border crisis or get out of Trump’s way

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  • Vambo VamboV Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter First Post Posting Machine Collaborator Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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    https://nypost.com/2019/04/01/democrats-need-to-help-fix-the-border-crisis-or-get-out-of-trumps-way/

    Even the most partisan Democrats are hard-pressed at this point to deny that the border crisis President Trump has long been warning about actually exists.

    Yet that hasn’t stopped them from reflexively denouncing pretty much any action he takes — without suggesting any solution or ideas of their own.

    Trump is threatening to close all or part of the US border with Mexico, mainly the 50 legal crossing points. (It’s been done before, by three other presidents.)

    This after the White House announced plans to cut off some $500 million in aid to the Northern Triangle countries — Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador — that are the major source of what officials call an “unsustainable” flood of asylum seekers. The president is also looking at naming an “immigration czar” to manage the crisis.

    More than 76,000 crossed the border in February; the March total is expected to top 100,000.

    Most of these are families — or, at least, claiming to be families. That’s because smugglers, who get paid thousands of dollars, pair adults with unrelated children to exploit a fast track to sanctuary.

    US immigration and asylum laws written decades ago desperately need updating, especially as courts have interpreted them to make the border even more porous and handcuff attempts to control it.

    As things stand, migrants need no longer claim a “well-founded” fear of persecution (as the law requires) if they’re returned home. The Trump administration’s attempt to impose conditions for asylum was overturned by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

    Court rulings also prevent detention of migrants for more than 20 days; most are simply released and allowed to stay in the US while they wait for immigration hearings — assuming they show up.

    The main barrier to changing any immigration laws has been the tendency of both sides to insist on reforming everything at once. That’s plainly the wrong way to go here: What’s needed are changes that don’t effectively grant a right to stay in the United States to anyone who says the right words.

    Democrats wax indignant whenever the president threatens to take action, but don’t offer anything more realistic than “Let them all in.”

    Trump recognizes the crisis. Democrats need to get out of the way.

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      C Chemist wrote on last edited by
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      A country simply cannot have social welfare and open borders. It has to be one or the other, for obvious reasons.

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        A country simply cannot have social welfare and open borders. It has to be one or the other, for obvious reasons.

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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        @chemist said:

        A country simply cannot have social welfare and open borders. It has to be one or the other, for obvious reasons.

        Agreed.

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          hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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          I’m disappointed the border wasn’t closed 6 months ago.

          completely ridiculous how patient the US has been

          guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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            I’m disappointed the border wasn’t closed 6 months ago.

            completely ridiculous how patient the US has been

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            @hammertime said:

            I’m disappointed the border wasn’t closed 6 months ago.

            completely ridiculous how patient the US has been

            Well, the border is where the people "doing it the right way" are coming in, right? Why are we threatening to choke off the major ports of commerce when that's not where the illegals are coming through. I'm all for massively increasing border security, and yes, a wall where its warrented. 

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              @hammertime said:

              I’m disappointed the border wasn’t closed 6 months ago.

              completely ridiculous how patient the US has been

              Well, the border is where the people "doing it the right way" are coming in, right? Why are we threatening to choke off the major ports of commerce when that's not where the illegals are coming through. I'm all for massively increasing border security, and yes, a wall where its warrented. 

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              VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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              @clevfan4life said:

              Well, the border is where the people "doing it the right way" are coming in, right? Why are we threatening to choke off the major ports of commerce when that's not where the illegals are coming through. I'm all for massively increasing border security, and yes, a wall where its warrented. 

              Because Trump wants Mexico to stop letting the hoards of migrants just to pass through Mexico without making an effort to stop them, he's using the only leverage he has since the Dems won't do anything to help with the CRISIS!

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                hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                Entering the USA is a privilege.

                mexico has screwed up for a long time.

                guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                  GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by
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                  Image result for there is no border crisis meme

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    this is now a full fliedged scandal. Who the )(*&&* is orgainizing all this convoy business?

                    The UN is all about redistribution of wealth.

                    Now, America has cut it's donations to the worthless crap org, and now,

                    they are redistributing the poverty stricken to America.

                    We can not continue as a country with open borders. This is just worse than stupid to not admit it.

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                      this is now a full fliedged scandal. Who the )(*&&* is orgainizing all this convoy business?

                      The UN is all about redistribution of wealth.

                      Now, America has cut it's donations to the worthless crap org, and now,

                      they are redistributing the poverty stricken to America.

                      We can not continue as a country with open borders. This is just worse than stupid to not admit it.

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                      VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      this is now a full fliedged scandal. Who the )(*&&* is orgainizing all this convoy business?

                      The UN is all about redistribution of wealth.

                      Now, America has cut it's donations to the worthless crap org, and now,

                      they are redistributing the poverty stricken to America.

                      We can not continue as a country with open borders. This is just worse than stupid to not admit it.

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                        VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                          VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                          As border crisis worsens, immigration bills in Congress continue to stall

                          https://www.foxnews.com/politics/as-border-crisis-worsens-immigration-bills-continue-to-stall

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                            GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by
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                            Dems deny border crisis

                            Dems deny meuller report

                            Dems deny Jussies guilt

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                              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                              The more people on the welfare rolls, the better it is for Chuck and Nancy.

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                                VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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                                Border Patrol chief under Obama: The border is 'wide open'

                                https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-patrol-chief-under-obama-the-border-is-wide-open

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