13 Biggest Draft Busts (and disappointments) in NFL History
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We only contributed 3, but Mike Phipps wasn't listed so...
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Dodged a bullet with Trent .....getting that 1 back .....
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Dodged a bullet with Trent .....getting that 1 back .....
Oh don't worry - we sunk that 1 right back into Manziel. Got a Mulligan and fucked it up anyway.
Mod Edit: beat me to it...
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I suppose the list is accurate if you take into account top 5 draft status and recent history. I would have rated Jamarcus worse, many top 10 draft bust lists have him at #1. But until we took Garrett as a no brainer pick, the Browns first round draft history since 1999 is atrocious. Only the Joes- Thomas and Haden stand out as pro bowl talent.
I'll let Gipper research it if he has the time, but the double header bust of Gilbert and Manziel in the first has to be the all time multiple failure in the first round.... I've pointed out in other threads the Browns could have fielded a pro bowl roster with the talent that was still on the board when they drafted, and whiffed on.
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Apparently the NFL Draft started in the 1980s... ?
The picks of Tim Couch, Courtney Brown and Gerard Warren to start the Browns reboot crippled the team for a decade. (Along with every other stupid move they made)
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Article is getting some blowback for Couch being on the list.
I tend to agree... Kid never had a chance.
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Article is getting some blowback for Couch being on the list.
I tend to agree... Kid never had a chance.
Article is getting some blowback for Couch being on the list.
I tend to agree... Kid never had a chance.
Yep. They never gave Couch a damn thing to work with. Kevin Johnson (2nd round WR) was it. I always felt Couch should've sued the Browns for malpractice..After all, they did damn near get the kid killed!
Phipps?...I hated him in college & then we traded Paul Warfield for the "right" to draft that effin' worthless POS!!! I know...I shouldn't "beat around the bush".
Mike
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Couch on this list is stupid. The Browns made the playoffs with him, then made the mistake of falling in love with Kelly Holcomb.Couch beat the Squealers in Pittsburgh on national television.
I wanted McNabb in 1999, but he would have been killed too. No offensive line during that time at all.
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Article is getting some blowback for Couch being on the list.
I tend to agree... Kid never had a chance.
Article is getting some blowback for Couch being on the list.
I tend to agree... Kid never had a chance.
It should. No way a guy with an almost 1:1 TD/Int ratio should be on anyone's list as one of the worst draft picks ever. Ridiculous.
But while he didn't have a great surrounding cast, I still have my doubts about how good he ever would be. I can't think of anything regarding his game that was above average.
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Article is getting some blowback for Couch being on the list.
I tend to agree... Kid never had a chance.
It should. No way a guy with an almost 1:1 TD/Int ratio should be on anyone's list as one of the worst draft picks ever. Ridiculous.
But while he didn't have a great surrounding cast, I still have my doubts about how good he ever would be. I can't think of anything regarding his game that was above average.
It should. No way a guy with an almost 1:1 TD/Int ratio should be on anyone's list as one of the worst draft picks ever. Ridiculous.
But while he didn't have a great surrounding cast, I still have my doubts about how good he ever would be. I can't think of anything regarding his game that was above average.
Agreed about Couch being average (or slightly above), but on the all time bust list? That's crazy!
Mike
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Article is getting some blowback for Couch being on the list.
I tend to agree... Kid never had a chance.
Article is getting some blowback for Couch being on the list.
I tend to agree... Kid never had a chance.
It’sSorry bad phone cell service down here in Southern Kentucky. I was saying that it’s bullshit that couch is on this list he took the Browns from a paper franchise to the playoffs in 3 to 4 years. Then he got hurt so it’s horse hockey
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Article is getting some blowback for Couch being on the list.
I tend to agree... Kid never had a chance.
Yep. They never gave Couch a damn thing to work with. Kevin Johnson (2nd round WR) was it. I always felt Couch should've sued the Browns for malpractice..After all, they did damn near get the kid killed!
Phipps?...I hated him in college & then we traded Paul Warfield for the "right" to draft that effin' worthless POS!!! I know...I shouldn't "beat around the bush".
Mike
Yep. They never gave Couch a damn thing to work with. Kevin Johnson (2nd round WR) was it. I always felt Couch should've sued the Browns for malpractice..After all, they did damn near get the kid killed!
Phipps?...I hated him in college & then we traded Paul Warfield for the "right" to draft that effin' worthless POS!!! I know...I shouldn't "beat around the bush".
Mike
Then where is David Carr on that list,#1 overall, and just because he was a hanger-on for a few more years?
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Article is getting some blowback for Couch being on the list.
I tend to agree... Kid never had a chance.
It should. No way a guy with an almost 1:1 TD/Int ratio should be on anyone's list as one of the worst draft picks ever. Ridiculous.
But while he didn't have a great surrounding cast, I still have my doubts about how good he ever would be. I can't think of anything regarding his game that was above average.
It should. No way a guy with an almost 1:1 TD/Int ratio should be on anyone's list as one of the worst draft picks ever. Ridiculous.
But while he didn't have a great surrounding cast, I still have my doubts about how good he ever would be. I can't think of anything regarding his game that was above average.
Might want to go back and take a second look at just how bad the Oline was for so long.
That Sunday night blowout over the Steelers was a thing of beauty and something that showed Couch was capable of at least being above average when given time.
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It should. No way a guy with an almost 1:1 TD/Int ratio should be on anyone's list as one of the worst draft picks ever. Ridiculous.
But while he didn't have a great surrounding cast, I still have my doubts about how good he ever would be. I can't think of anything regarding his game that was above average.
Might want to go back and take a second look at just how bad the Oline was for so long.
That Sunday night blowout over the Steelers was a thing of beauty and something that showed Couch was capable of at least being above average when given time.
Might want to go back and take a second look at just how bad the Oline was for so long.
That Sunday night blowout over the Steelers was a thing of beauty and something that showed Couch was capable of at least being above average when given time.
One game tia.
I still contend there was nothing about Couch that was special. Not his arm, his accuracy, his athleticism, his ability to dissect opposing defenses, or his ability to lead. IMO, his ceiling was an average to slightly-below average starting QB. (Which still puts him in the top 15-20 QBs in the NFL)
I mean, it's not like Baker Mayfield stepped into a ready-made playoff contender either. Those 2016 and 2017 Browns teams he inherited were as bad as the first years of the expansion Browns.
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I still think the run-over of the Boz by Bo for the TD is emblematic of the words "NFL BUST".?
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Might want to go back and take a second look at just how bad the Oline was for so long.
That Sunday night blowout over the Steelers was a thing of beauty and something that showed Couch was capable of at least being above average when given time.
One game tia.
I still contend there was nothing about Couch that was special. Not his arm, his accuracy, his athleticism, his ability to dissect opposing defenses, or his ability to lead. IMO, his ceiling was an average to slightly-below average starting QB. (Which still puts him in the top 15-20 QBs in the NFL)
I mean, it's not like Baker Mayfield stepped into a ready-made playoff contender either. Those 2016 and 2017 Browns teams he inherited were as bad as the first years of the expansion Browns.
One game tia.
I still contend there was nothing about Couch that was special. Not his arm, his accuracy, his athleticism, his ability to dissect opposing defenses, or his ability to lead. IMO, his ceiling was an average to slightly-below average starting QB. (Which still puts him in the top 15-20 QBs in the NFL)
I mean, it's not like Baker Mayfield stepped into a ready-made playoff contender either. Those 2016 and 2017 Browns teams he inherited were as bad as the first years of the expansion Browns.
Im not arguing couch would have been special. Not in the least, but I think he would have been effective. Think like.... 2014 Hoyer before Mack got hurt.
And the 2018 oline and running game that Baker inherited is leaps and bounds better than anything Couch ever saw.
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A blowback article came out nominating JFF and Gilbert to take the places of Couch and Courtney Brown.
Seems reasonable to me.
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Courtney Brown being on the "all time" list is a bit harsh IMO too. Dude was considered a lock top 5 pick and the Browns thought at least at the time to have had their QB. Brown had a solid rookie season but couldn't get out of his own way with injuries. I get at face value with dude being #1 overall, but someone like JFF is easily more of a bust than Brown, despite draft position.
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