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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Vernon has the performance edge and is nearly three-years younger, but good to learn there were options. I'd be surprised if there were not more...

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #3

    @tour2ma said:

    Vernon has the performance edge and is nearly three-years younger, but good to learn there were options. I'd be surprised if there were not more...

    I'm perfectly happy with the Viking we got from that D.?

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  • ComeonmanC Comeonman wrote on
    #4

    Always seems like Dorsey is playing two or three moves ahead. I’m going to start calling him Bobby Dorsey. 

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #5

    The off field issues alone would have made this a no for me.   Griffen has had some mental struggles of late. 

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on
    #6

    Don't need a thread to decode why Vernon is much better..

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • U Unsympathetic

    Don't need a thread to decode why Vernon is much better..

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #7

    @unsympathetic said:

    Don't need a thread to decode why Vernon is much better..

    Consider the OP... 

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #8

    The everson griffin of a couple years ago pre mental meltdown....sure. Not now tho. 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #9

    More I think on it the more I am confused by what Gettleman and the G-men are doing...

    Just a couple years ago they went on a D-side spending spree and left Eli to fend for himself.

    Now he's turned his back on the D setting up a need to outscore opponents. And while he's shoring up the OL he trades his best scoring threat.

    Barkley's talent is undeniable, but no way can they control the ball and score enough with him to win. At least I don't see it...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
    C hoortaH 2 Replies
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    More I think on it the more I am confused by what Gettleman and the G-men are doing...

    Just a couple years ago they went on a D-side spending spree and left Eli to fend for himself.

    Now he's turned his back on the D setting up a need to outscore opponents. And while he's shoring up the OL he trades his best scoring threat.

    Barkley's talent is undeniable, but no way can they control the ball and score enough with him to win. At least I don't see it...

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #10

    @tour2ma said:

    More I think on it the more I am confused by what Gettleman and the G-men are doing...

    Just a couple years ago they went on a D-side spending spree and left Eli to fend for himself.

    Now he's turned his back on the D setting up a need to outscore opponents. And while he's shoring up the OL he trades his best scoring threat.

    Barkley's talent is undeniable, but no way can they control the ball and score enough with him to win. At least I don't see it...

    honrstly they might as well trade Barkley too if they're in rebuild. Barkley isnt getting them deep into the plsyoffs and if they can get a "haul" for him they shoukd do it....cause RB's depreciate quick in the NFL. 

    If they can get a goid QB in this years draft tho, thsts fine...obviously keep barkley. But if they're looking at getting a QB agsin after next year they oughta trade him and get a shit ton of picks. 

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    More I think on it the more I am confused by what Gettleman and the G-men are doing...

    Just a couple years ago they went on a D-side spending spree and left Eli to fend for himself.

    Now he's turned his back on the D setting up a need to outscore opponents. And while he's shoring up the OL he trades his best scoring threat.

    Barkley's talent is undeniable, but no way can they control the ball and score enough with him to win. At least I don't see it...

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #11

    @tour2ma said:

    More I think on it the more I am confused by what Gettleman and the G-men are doing...

    Just a couple years ago they went on a D-side spending spree and left Eli to fend for himself.

    Now he's turned his back on the D setting up a need to outscore opponents. And while he's shoring up the OL he trades his best scoring threat.

    Barkley's talent is undeniable, but no way can they control the ball and score enough with him to win. At least I don't see it...

    Virtually everyone is questioning what Gettelman is up to. In the 2018 QB loaded draft, the Giants were in prime position to take the QB we didn't. Yet they took Barkley instead of Sam Darnold. That move improved their draft position from #2 to #6.  And they still don't have anyone on the roster for their QBOTF.  

    You can question if Haskins is a QB prospect equal to Darnold, but will he still be there at #6? Or will they use the #17 they got from the Browns on a second tier guy like Drew Lock?  

    So real head scratchers taking Barkley and trading OBJ. They may be doing a minor league version of the the Browns Sashi tank, and the Colts suck for Luck.  At the rate they're going, it could be at least several seasons before they're competitive in the NFC East much less Super Bowl contenders.  

    @clevfan4life said:

    honrstly they might as well trade Barkley too if they're in rebuild. Barkley isnt getting them deep into the plsyoffs and if they can get a "haul" for him they shoukd do it....cause RB's depreciate quick in the NFL. 

    If they can get a goid QB in this years draft tho, thsts fine...obviously keep barkley. But if they're looking at getting a QB agsin after next year they oughta trade him and get a shit ton of picks. 

    As I said above, the Giants have to at least be the favorites to wind up in the NFC East basement, if not in contention for the 2020 #1 overall pick. I agree with your point that RBs have a short shelf life, and Saquon may well be shot by the time they're competitive again. But what's he worth? MHO is the Giants wouldn't get anything more than a first round pick for him.  

  • CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on
    #12

    Barkley isn’t your average NFL RB

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #13

    barkley right now would get a haul....if he remsins healthy this season his stock shouldnt go down. 

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #14

    On another note...

    NYG looks like a prime trade partner for AZ's Josh Rosen.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    On another note...

    NYG looks like a prime trade partner for AZ's Josh Rosen.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #15

    @tour2ma said:

    On another note...

    NYG looks like a prime trade partner for AZ's Josh Rosen.

    Yep, the NFL Net guys on radio have said that earlier this week.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    On another note...

    NYG looks like a prime trade partner for AZ's Josh Rosen.

    Yep, the NFL Net guys on radio have said that earlier this week.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #16

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yep, the NFL Net guys on radio have said that earlier this week.

    Seems like a "fit"... very similar skill set to Eli's.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • darren15D darren15 wrote on
    #17

    I would only offer 2nd rounder tops for him .... 

  • C Clevfan4life

    barkley right now would get a haul....if he remsins healthy this season his stock shouldnt go down. 

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #18

    @clevfan4life said:

    barkley right now would get a haul....if he remsins healthy this season his stock shouldnt go down. 

    OK, Saquon- a first, low third, and a Jabril Peppers level player. Maybe not even that much- MHO. Around draft time players on rosters tend to be devaluated. 😁  Would anyone want to give up that much?  He might be a generational player, but I argued with PO and Ghoolie for months "generational" running backs aren't necessarily the ticket to the Promised Land. Just ask Adrian Peterson, LaDanian Tomlinson, and Barry Sanders about that. 

    Regarding Rosen- the #17 the Giants got from the Browns sounds like fair value. If the Cardinals draft Murray, there's no place on the roster for Josh- and keeping him is a locker room nightmare waiting to happen. 

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