The official Terry Pluto thread
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7. No matter what Gettleman says, his actions scream the Giants wanted Beckham out. They even are willing to carry $19 million of “dead salary cap money” in 2019 for Beckham to play for the Browns.......
8. I doubt the record had anything to do with Beckham being traded. The Giants are in a roster teardown, and that has helped the Browns acquire some very talented players.
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Nice to be on the receiving end of a team doing a fire sale? Yes it is.
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Not quite as much Browns coverage from mr. Pluto since baseball season has begun.
WSS
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Talkin’ Cleveland Browns: Little-known factors behind John Dorsey’s big moves – Terry Pluto
Today 4:59 AMGood stuff on how Dorsey "leans on analytics", Corbett/Zeitler, Garrett/Vernon and "pressuring" the QB, and OBJ/Landry and the love of the game.
You beat me to it. Just getting ready to post that.
WSS
You beat me to it. Just getting ready to post that.
WSS
Was starting to wonder where you've been...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Not quite as much Browns coverage from mr. Pluto since baseball season has begun.
WSS
Not quite as much Browns coverage from mr. Pluto since baseball season has begun.
WSS
Yes Terry Pluto must never stop writing things down......about Cleveland sports. https://connect.cleveland.com/staff/tpluto/posts.html
I have written to Terry in the past and will write him again when I get my stuff in order again soon and will include Paul Hoynes who covers the Indians and MLB this time. https://connect.cleveland.com/staff/phoynes/posts.html
I might have some writing time coming up this week.......
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Terry's take on the whole Cowherd-Whitlock-Bayless (yes, him, too) view controversey...
Plus a word to "overly optomisitic fans"...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Terry's take on the whole Cowherd-Whitlock-Bayless (yes, him, too) view controversey...
Plus a word to "overly optomisitic fans"...
Terry's take on the whole Cowherd-Whitlock-Bayless (yes, him, too) view controversey...
Plus a word to "overly optomisitic fans"...
Over-optimism worries the shit out of me.
WSS
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Thanks Steve. I believe the "poor tackling" is largely a coaching issue. This hard, body block tackling may have resulted in more turnovers, but also (IMO) a LOT of missed tackles, longer gains, & extended drives against us. I would rather see solid tackling that results in more "3 & outs".
The talent is there. I am anxious to see what different utilization of that talent brings plus I want another solid LB.
Mike
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Not quite as much Browns coverage from mr. Pluto since baseball season has begun.
WSS
Not quite as much Browns coverage from mr. Pluto since baseball season has begun.
WSS
Baseball- now instead of the "National Past time" just passes time until football starts- and it starts the end of the month with the draft.
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Not quite as much Browns coverage from mr. Pluto since baseball season has begun.
WSS
Baseball- now instead of the "National Past time" just passes time until football starts- and it starts the end of the month with the draft.
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Not quite as much Browns coverage from mr. Pluto since baseball season has begun.
WSS
Baseball- now instead of the "National Past time" just passes time until football starts- and it starts the end of the month with the draft.
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Terry scribbling about the Browns and the Draft...
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...it's just plain weird...it's mid April.....and the draft is so, ho-hum. On draft night we can take the wife out to dinner and a movie. (in theory)
We're used to having multiple 1st round picks....one of em' being top 3.
....and I'll say, "I want the tallest QB with the best mechanics." And somebody else would say, "So long as we don't take one with pick 22. It's cursed."
...it's just plain weird...
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
...it's just plain weird...it's mid April.....and the draft is so, ho-hum. On draft night we can take the wife out to dinner and a movie. (in theory)
We're used to having multiple 1st round picks....one of em' being top 3.
....and I'll say, "I want the tallest QB with the best mechanics." And somebody else would say, "So long as we don't take one with pick 22. It's cursed."
...it's just plain weird...
...it's just plain weird...it's mid April.....and the draft is so, ho-hum. On draft night we can take the wife out to dinner and a movie. (in theory)
We're used to having multiple 1st round picks....one of em' being top 3.
....and I'll say, "I want the tallest QB with the best mechanics." And somebody else would say, "So long as we don't take one with pick 22. It's cursed."
...it's just plain weird...
Hah, I was going to say news flash! Dorsey has traded up to pick #22 in the first round!! Except that pick is currently held by the Ravens.
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...it's just plain weird...it's mid April.....and the draft is so, ho-hum. On draft night we can take the wife out to dinner and a movie. (in theory)
We're used to having multiple 1st round picks....one of em' being top 3.
....and I'll say, "I want the tallest QB with the best mechanics." And somebody else would say, "So long as we don't take one with pick 22. It's cursed."
...it's just plain weird...
Hah, I was going to say news flash! Dorsey has traded up to pick #22 in the first round!! Except that pick is currently held by the Ravens.
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...it's just plain weird...it's mid April.....and the draft is so, ho-hum. On draft night we can take the wife out to dinner and a movie. (in theory)
We're used to having multiple 1st round picks....one of em' being top 3.
....and I'll say, "I want the tallest QB with the best mechanics." And somebody else would say, "So long as we don't take one with pick 22. It's cursed."
...it's just plain weird...
...it's just plain weird...it's mid April.....and the draft is so, ho-hum. On draft night we can take the wife out to dinner and a movie. (in theory)
We're used to having multiple 1st round picks....one of em' being top 3.
....and I'll say, "I want the tallest QB with the best mechanics." And somebody else would say, "So long as we don't take one with pick 22. It's cursed."
...it's just plain weird...
I mean, Browns fans are more excited about the schedule coming out tonight than the Draft next week.
Reminds me of 2008. ??
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...it's just plain weird...it's mid April.....and the draft is so, ho-hum. On draft night we can take the wife out to dinner and a movie. (in theory)
We're used to having multiple 1st round picks....one of em' being top 3.
....and I'll say, "I want the tallest QB with the best mechanics." And somebody else would say, "So long as we don't take one with pick 22. It's cursed."
...it's just plain weird...
I mean, Browns fans are more excited about the schedule coming out tonight than the Draft next week.
Reminds me of 2008. ??
Reminds me of 2008.
Not me.
I knew we were gonna suck after the 10-6 season. I told people, "We don't have a QB! Derick Anderson sucks! He can throw it 70 yards but he can't complete a 5 yard crossing pattern on 3rd down."
THIS time we HAVE a QB. (and much more) THIS time it's a totally different feeling.......for ME anyway. THIS time I'm telling people, "Yup, we're good on paper. We just gotta make sure that those pieces of paper do it on the actual football field."
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Reminds me of 2008.
Not me.
I knew we were gonna suck after the 10-6 season. I told people, "We don't have a QB! Derick Anderson sucks! He can throw it 70 yards but he can't complete a 5 yard crossing pattern on 3rd down."
THIS time we HAVE a QB. (and much more) THIS time it's a totally different feeling.......for ME anyway. THIS time I'm telling people, "Yup, we're good on paper. We just gotta make sure that those pieces of paper do it on the actual football field."
Not me.
I knew we were gonna suck after the 10-6 season. I told people, "We don't have a QB! Derick Anderson sucks! He can throw it 70 yards but he can't complete a 5 yard crossing pattern on 3rd down."
THIS time we HAVE a QB. (and much more) THIS time it's a totally different feeling.......for ME anyway. THIS time I'm telling people, "Yup, we're good on paper. We just gotta make sure that those pieces of paper do it on the actual football field."
Right on the money! 2007 was an absolute FLUKE! I could never understand the DA hype....Strong arm, NO touch.
We now have a REAL QB and surrounding talent. What needs to happen now is for all this talent to gel as a UNIT. To be really great on field, these players need to learn what the tendencies, strengths, & weaknesses are of those players around them, then work together to mesh & achieve goals. I think that will happen, but it will take time & how much time is the question....games? weeks? a season? longer? Who knows? Stay tuned folks as it's gonna be fun watching this Team grow.
Mike
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Not me.
I knew we were gonna suck after the 10-6 season. I told people, "We don't have a QB! Derick Anderson sucks! He can throw it 70 yards but he can't complete a 5 yard crossing pattern on 3rd down."
THIS time we HAVE a QB. (and much more) THIS time it's a totally different feeling.......for ME anyway. THIS time I'm telling people, "Yup, we're good on paper. We just gotta make sure that those pieces of paper do it on the actual football field."
Right on the money! 2007 was an absolute FLUKE! I could never understand the DA hype....Strong arm, NO touch.
We now have a REAL QB and surrounding talent. What needs to happen now is for all this talent to gel as a UNIT. To be really great on field, these players need to learn what the tendencies, strengths, & weaknesses are of those players around them, then work together to mesh & achieve goals. I think that will happen, but it will take time & how much time is the question....games? weeks? a season? longer? Who knows? Stay tuned folks as it's gonna be fun watching this Team grow.
Mike
I think that will happen, but it will take time & how much time is the question....games? weeks? a season? longer? Who knows? Stay tuned folks as it's gonna be fun watching this Team grow.
Mike
I think we see it happening by the dress rehearsal game in pre-season and hit the ground flying in week 1.
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I think that will happen, but it will take time & how much time is the question....games? weeks? a season? longer? Who knows? Stay tuned folks as it's gonna be fun watching this Team grow.
Mike
I think we see it happening by the dress rehearsal game in pre-season and hit the ground flying in week 1.
I think we see it happening by the dress rehearsal game in pre-season and hit the ground flying in week 1.
"Hit the ground" and "flying" are not a good mix... just ask Boeing... ?
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