Regular Season Schedule
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Let's not jump ahead of ourselves...
We are still a few defensive pieces away from being playoff contenders..
8-8 is where I expect this team to finish... Maybe 9-7 if were lucky
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So I guess we need an entire squad of all pros to be considered contenders?
Nah... but we need to actually win games.
Being 2-4 after six games is a real possibility. That will test the cohesion of a young team trying to gel... not to mention a fan base with oversized expectations.
Week 6 will be huge. We will face a good Seattle team, who has 10 days to prepare for us (their Week 5 game is hosting LAR on TNF), on the Sunday after our MNF game at SF. We will take the result of that game into the BYE with NE waiting on the other side.
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Zombo said:
So we are a half game better with Richardson, Vernon, OBJ, Hunt (4 Pro Bowlers) an improving Mayfield and another Dorsey draft ... not too mention a half season without Hue?
If you look at our front four, it is playoff-ready. Secondary is solid. I think Avery will make more plays than Collins did ... I think the optimism is warranted.
Zombo
We aren't shit until we can win consistently.. Remember expectations after 2007?
Whose to say we don't flame out and go 6-10?
Not saying I want that, but all this talk about winning the division, sweeping the AFCN, I mean it sounds great and all,
but we haven't put together back-to-back seasons of AT LEAST 7 wins in well over a decade!
9-7 is where they will finish... Maybe.
Still a young team, first year HC.
Injuries are always a concern...
I just hope these "expectations" don't have the opposite effect on this team like we've seen in the past..
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So I guess we need an entire squad of all pros to be considered contenders?
Nah... but we need to actually win games.
Being 2-4 after six games is a real possibility. That will test the cohesion of a young team trying to gel... not to mention a fan base with oversized expectations.
Week 6 will be huge. We will face a good Seattle team, who has 10 days to prepare for us (their Week 5 game is hosting LAR on TNF), on the Sunday after our MNF game at SF. We will take the result of that game into the BYE with NE waiting on the other side.
Nah... but we need to actually win games.
Being 2-4 after six games is a real possibility. That will test the cohesion of a young team trying to gel... not to mention a fan base with oversized expectations.
Week 6 will be huge. We will face a good Seattle team, who has 10 days to prepare for us (their Week 5 game is hosting LAR on TNF), on the Sunday after our MNF game at SF. We will take the result of that game into the BYE with NE waiting on the other side.
Both the first two are winnable Tour. That happens, the train starts a rollin'. Don't see 0-4 after that... I agree playing the 49ers on MNF, and then a real short week to play the Seahawks coming off a bye in Cleveland, the schedule makers didn't exactly do us a favor there...
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Nah... but we need to actually win games.
Being 2-4 after six games is a real possibility. That will test the cohesion of a young team trying to gel... not to mention a fan base with oversized expectations.
Week 6 will be huge. We will face a good Seattle team, who has 10 days to prepare for us (their Week 5 game is hosting LAR on TNF), on the Sunday after our MNF game at SF. We will take the result of that game into the BYE with NE waiting on the other side.
Both the first two are winnable Tour. That happens, the train starts a rollin'. Don't see 0-4 after that... I agree playing the 49ers on MNF, and then a real short week to play the Seahawks coming off a bye in Cleveland, the schedule makers didn't exactly do us a favor there...
Both the first two are winnable Tour. That happens, the train starts a rollin'. Don't see 0-4 after that... I agree playing the 49ers on MNF, and then a real short week to play the Seahawks coming off a bye in Cleveland, the schedule makers didn't exactly do us a favor there...
Seattle playing a 1pm eastern game isn’t easy for them either
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Browns board tailgate party? For Z and Marco And the BRITs etc to come into town? That Sunday night versus the Rams seems like the ticket. I am seriously thinking about doing the road trip to Arizona for the December game and combining it with a week in Sedona. I think that almost worked out perfect with the schedule if I want to do that
That will be up to Z, Mark, and the Brits which week they prefer. The original tentative plan was for the opener- which is the Titans. Either game is OK by me. Yup, December road trip to Glendale doesn't sound too hateful....
That will be up to Z, Mark, and the Brits which week they prefer. The original tentative plan was for the opener- which is the Titans. Either game is OK by me. Yup, December road trip to Glendale doesn't sound too hateful....
Week 1 vs. Titans will be the annual trip and tailgate. There's also talk of coming in for the 11/10 game and possibly a tailgate to also remember Stan. But the official Browns Board Tailgate game will be week 1.
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Got 9/23 and 11/17 off from work
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That will be up to Z, Mark, and the Brits which week they prefer. The original tentative plan was for the opener- which is the Titans. Either game is OK by me. Yup, December road trip to Glendale doesn't sound too hateful....
Week 1 vs. Titans will be the annual trip and tailgate. There's also talk of coming in for the 11/10 game and possibly a tailgate to also remember Stan. But the official Browns Board Tailgate game will be week 1.
Week 1 vs. Titans will be the annual trip and tailgate. There's also talk of coming in for the 11/10 game and possibly a tailgate to also remember Stan. But the official Browns Board Tailgate game will be week 1.
I will be out of town that first game so I guess I won’t see you then but hopefully November.
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So I guess we need an entire squad of all pros to be considered contenders?
Nah... but we need to actually win games.
Being 2-4 after six games is a real possibility. That will test the cohesion of a young team trying to gel... not to mention a fan base with oversized expectations.
Week 6 will be huge. We will face a good Seattle team, who has 10 days to prepare for us (their Week 5 game is hosting LAR on TNF), on the Sunday after our MNF game at SF. We will take the result of that game into the BYE with NE waiting on the other side.
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Nah... but we need to actually win games.
Being 2-4 after six games is a real possibility. That will test the cohesion of a young team trying to gel... not to mention a fan base with oversized expectations.
Week 6 will be huge. We will face a good Seattle team, who has 10 days to prepare for us (their Week 5 game is hosting LAR on TNF), on the Sunday after our MNF game at SF. We will take the result of that game into the BYE with NE waiting on the other side.
Both the first two are winnable Tour. That happens, the train starts a rollin'. Don't see 0-4 after that... I agree playing the 49ers on MNF, and then a real short week to play the Seahawks coming off a bye in Cleveland, the schedule makers didn't exactly do us a favor there...
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Let's not jump ahead of ourselves...
We are still a few defensive pieces away from being playoff contenders..
8-8 is where I expect this team to finish... Maybe 9-7 if were lucky
Let's not jump ahead of ourselves...
We are still a few defensive pieces away from being playoff contenders..
8-8 is where I expect this team to finish... Maybe 9-7 if were lucky
I'm exactly where you are, my friend. Maybe it's because I still remember 2008 VERY well, but I tend to agree with 8-8. The difference with my opinion is I can see 10-6, ESPECIALLY if we split the first 8 games because I think the second half of the schedule lightens up just a bit, but I can also see us winning only 6 games.
Now, I’m the first to admit that our team is a much different animal than the 2008 squad, but I’m not sure fans truly remember the amount of hype we had going into the year. Not only did we fail to live up to the hype, we were an unmitigated disaster from the GET-GO. Weird injuries in preseason, cuts that didn’t heal, touchdowns dropped (ahem, Braylon), and every other problem you can think of. We came into that year the darling of the AFC North, and we crapped the sheets IMMEDIATELY.
Ok, so referring back to 2008 isn’t very scientific in terms of prognosticating a win-loss schedule. So what else is going on? Three things, and while I’m sure they’ve already been discussed in these 3 pages, I’m going to apologize in advance for not reading every post. Here are my 3 reasons for predicting between 6-10 wins (I know you guys are very excited! LOL)
1. Defense. I do not trust our defense yet, and while I’m excited to get a new DC and new scheme, we have holes at LB, CB, and Safety. Jabril Peppers wasn’t an allstar, but he was starting to play a bit better, and we’re still going to feel his absence. I mean, he almost singlehandedly beat the Broncos for us with his incredible end zone interception and the 4th down sack. We’re still missing that “thumper” style linebacker, and what hurts the most is we HAD HIM in Michael Kendricks, but obviously we had to cut him.
2. Field Goal Kicker. Ok, stop laughing, and hear me out. If we had a stud FG kicker last year, what do you think our record is? I mean, just look at the close games we lost. Pittsburgh and New Orleans were the first two games of the year, and both games basically came down to kicks. What about the last game of the year against the Ravens? We go for it on 4th and 10 instead of kicking the 56 yard FG. Obviously I understand that 56 yards if FAR from a gimme, but if you had a good kicker, you probably go for the kick, right? Heck, we lost to the Bucs in overtime on a 58 yarder. And the weather wasn’t THAT terrible in Baltimore. Greg Joseph has the physical tools to be a good kicker, no doubt. Plenty of leg and all that, but even several of his MADE attempts got between the uprights by the grace of God himself. Remember the “slice kick” he had against the Jets I think? Where it started left and sliced back right? LOL! How about the game-winner against the Ravens? That should NOT have gone in, hahaha. How many extra points and FG’s JUST went through? Until we get a good FG kicker, I can’t predict us to get more than 10 wins, and 10 is the high side for me.
3. Injuries. Now, this is something that applies to every team, and it’s not even fun to talk about, but I don’t even know who our backup QB is going to be. Drew Stanton? I know he’s got a solid starting record, but I don’t think he’s the guy you REALLY want out there if the unthinkable happens. I also don’t put much stock in Denzel Ward’s health. He’s one of my FAVORITE players, and my heart breaks for that kid, but 3 concussions in like 7 weeks is NOT good, especially as a rookie. It’s got to be on his mind nonstop, ya know? How can he NOT be hesitant? I hope I’m wrong, I really do, but for us to maximize our potential, we need our allstars, and he’s so talented…we need him out there in the secondary.
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5 out of the last 7 games being against the North is going to be bananas.
I know, I really don't like it. I'd rather have a few more division games early when teams tend to be healthier.
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So I guess we need an entire squad of all pros to be considered contenders?
Nah... but we need to actually win games.
Being 2-4 after six games is a real possibility. That will test the cohesion of a young team trying to gel... not to mention a fan base with oversized expectations.
Week 6 will be huge. We will face a good Seattle team, who has 10 days to prepare for us (their Week 5 game is hosting LAR on TNF), on the Sunday after our MNF game at SF. We will take the result of that game into the BYE with NE waiting on the other side.
Nah... but we need to actually win games.
Being 2-4 after six games is a real possibility. That will test the cohesion of a young team trying to gel... not to mention a fan base with oversized expectations.
Week 6 will be huge. We will face a good Seattle team, who has 10 days to prepare for us (their Week 5 game is hosting LAR on TNF), on the Sunday after our MNF game at SF. We will take the result of that game into the BYE with NE waiting on the other side.
That's kind of what I was saying, too. If we can split the first 8 games and stay healthy, I REALLY like how our schedule shapes up in the second half. Although the second half is absolutely loaded with division foes, I don't see that as being the formidable force as it historically was...hopefully. You want to know what our entire season hinges on? I'm not trying to be dramatic, but my honest-to-goodness opinion about the entire trajectory of our team lies on our season opener. We haven't won a season opener since 2004, and that was the only victory we've had opening day since coming back. It's a stat that gets more and more bizarre, and we've lost them in EVERY SINGLE WAY possible (no need to rehash them, LOL).
We could very easily start out the year 2-4, no doubt, but I like our chances break even or better in the first half of the season if we can FINALLY win a season opener. On one hand, the scheduling gods gave us a break with having a home game (thank GOD), but on the other, it's against a team that was 9-7 last year. If we don't stop the run, they will beat us. Again, I hate to be overly dramatic, but the season opener is basically going to be the barometer for our 2019 campaign. Win the damn opener, go to New York and beat them up, and then get ready for a Sunday night PARTY against the NFC Champions, Rams.
Damn...now I'm all pumped up for football and it's the 19th of April!
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Nah... but we need to actually win games.
Being 2-4 after six games is a real possibility. That will test the cohesion of a young team trying to gel... not to mention a fan base with oversized expectations.
Week 6 will be huge. We will face a good Seattle team, who has 10 days to prepare for us (their Week 5 game is hosting LAR on TNF), on the Sunday after our MNF game at SF. We will take the result of that game into the BYE with NE waiting on the other side.
Both the first two are winnable Tour. That happens, the train starts a rollin'. Don't see 0-4 after that... I agree playing the 49ers on MNF, and then a real short week to play the Seahawks coming off a bye in Cleveland, the schedule makers didn't exactly do us a favor there...
Both the first two are winnable Tour. That happens, the train starts a rollin'. Don't see 0-4 after that... I agree playing the 49ers on MNF, and then a real short week to play the Seahawks coming off a bye in Cleveland, the schedule makers didn't exactly do us a favor there...
True... winnable... but despite the fact that I see week's 1 and 2 supplying the "Ws" in my 2-4 tally, they are not won.
Ag's on his Henry horse early, but of more concern to me is facing a healthy Mariotta. Of the first two weeks TN is the better test, but I don't see their D being strong enough to prevent a "W"... even if it takes a shootout to post it.
Week 2 has the look of an opposite... a defensive struggle. NYJ adding Moseley in the middle and Jonson at one corner helps them immensely. And while I don't fear Darnold, Bell lining up behind him adds a run dimension that has to be honored and a pass option that has to cool our pass rush.
Even should we emerge an unscathed 2-0, the competition level rises hosting the Rams on a short week, visiting BLT, traveling to SF and then facing SEA. That's a schedule that could blunt a helluva lot of momentum.
Seattle playing a 1pm eastern game isn’t easy for them either
True, but Pete has 10 days to reset his team's bio-clocks.
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Zombo said:
This "we" you spoke of has nothing to do with Dorsey and Mayfield and this current team, and everything to do with a damaged fanbase.
I understand, and it's cool for some of you to go "whoa, let's not put the cart before the horse", I do get it.
Garret, Ward, Schoebert and Landry were Pro Bowlers with the Browns. We've added Pro Bowlers Vernon, Richardson, Hunt and OBJ. That's 8.
Mayfield set the rookie passing mark. Chubb and Nojoku look like big-time playmakers of the future.
We were 5-2 Down the stretch ... It's OK to be optimistic too.
Agree... enough water has flowed under the bridge... carrying GMs, HCs, QBs and others with it... to render any connection with 2007 illogical. ANd while other stops along the way have felt different-ish, this time is clearly different.
It was before my time here or any sports forum for that matter, but after 2007, I told anyone who would listen that we needed to trade both Derek "one read" Anderson and Braylon Edwards while they were "hot"... that 2007 was a dual, high-water fluke that they'd never approach again.
I think I pretty much nailed that one...
I got no such feeling from this roster... and that was prior to all JD's off-season moves.
So I understand the optimism of you and others. BION I'm optimistic, too... just being realistic at the same time. While there are others who have zipped right past "optimism" and are steaming towards "delirium".
Just the take from the guy who was mocked for calling the 2018 Ravens the class of the AFCN... a mantle we have a legit shot at taking in 2019... it's just not going to be easy.
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Browns open as 5 point favorites over the Titans.
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Zombo said:
Zombo
-- Oh, I guess we should draft first
Might help a tad.?
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Zombo said:
Wow ... I made two picks.
Zombo
I made 3 picks before I moved my office and then went on vacation. Just now, today, an hour ago I finally got my computer up and running again. I will still beg off making any more picks because it is far too late to catch up...and all y'all are doing fine nevertheless.
And you never know....I may even do a Browns draft history trivia thread now that I can do things proper.
Who is in favor of that?
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