Sione Takitaki
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Draft busts all over. Lol
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John Dorsey just got us Greedy Williams deep in the 2nd round. Yes, John didn't exactly cast a spell on the rest of the league to make that happen...although im starting to wonder if there isn't some kind of druid shit going on here at this point...but srsly, I think we can cut Dorsey some slack. I was "highly" critical of some of the defensive cuts we made after preseason last year....and I do think they had some small part to play in why we didn't make the playoffs. That being said...…….Im over it. Look at what that fucker has built in this offseason. OBJ, Vernon, Richardson, Hunt....and ofc Baker last year which is the crucial piece, and now we get Greedy Williams to go with Denzel Ward....Minnefield/Dixon pt 2 perhaps. Srsly guys. Pinch your buttholes tight this has never happened for the Browns.
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Fuego......we can only hope
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Analytics and data driven pick ??
I never understand the “bad value pick you could have got him 10,20,30 spots later”
How on earth does anyone know that? It’s impossible to know there are too many variables.
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This is the game Wolf referred to in the press conference.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” -
And NFL dislikes him.. And walter.. And nfldraftscout.. And PFF.. But of course - because I posted it, it must only be me who thinks it!
And NFL dislikes him.. And walter.. And nfldraftscout.. And PFF.. But of course - because I posted it, it must only be me who thinks it!
And they don't draft players.... We're talking about a third round pick where statistically 70% or so of them are out of the NFL in short order. No GM is 100% perfect, chill out. Walter is guilty of some serious gaffes, if you're keeping track- I have.... Be thankful that you're not a Cardinals fan where they (according to the draft value chart) just got 5 cents on the dollar gifting Josh Rosen to the Dolphins.
CBS had him 254 overall and drafttek about the same. Huge reach.
And the talking heads thought Baker and Ward last year were reaches too.... Dorsey is a man of conviction. I'll admit- NFLN didn't even have any tape on the guy immediately available when we called his name. But the Browns sure did.
Takahashi makes fine telescopes.
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I can't stand when people say things like "In Dorsey I trust" or "analytics driven pick" or even "Dorsey sucks". I prefer it when we value each pick independently of the people behind it, because we don't know if it was Dorsey's, analytics, or Defensive coordinator's pick.
As of today, many people think it is a reach, and as a dummie I am, I'm not the one to judge if it is a bad pick or not (there are some UDFAs in the HOF, IIRC, would you draft them with a 3rd round pick?).
I don't blindly trust in the Front Office as they are humans, but they'll have to convince me with this one.
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Another local connection. Mormons started in Kirkland. Seems like a tough player and a good kid.
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I wonder if he related to David Veikune? That's the last time I was so dumbfounded by a browns pick
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I wonder if he related to David Veikune? That's the last time I was so dumbfounded by a browns pick
I wonder if he related to David Veikune? That's the last time I was so dumbfounded by a browns pick
Yea. What he said!
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I wonder if he related to David Veikune? That's the last time I was so dumbfounded by a browns pick
I wonder if he related to David Veikune? That's the last time I was so dumbfounded by a browns pick
LOL-ironically enough he was taken one spot ahead of some loser named LeSean McCoy.
Well at least there are still some better ILBs still on the board for today. Please take one.
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Another local connection. Mormons started in Kirkland. Seems like a tough player and a good kid.
Another local connection. Mormons started in Kirkland. Seems like a tough player and a good kid.
Mormons started in Palmyra New York actually but they did go to Kirkland later
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Taki Taki ... the guy just sounds like a hitter ... and from what I read, that is his speciality.
Two things here: 1) We're in the middle of the third round. Getting bent out of shape over a third rounder when you don't have nearly the information our front office possesses is futile. As Dorsey would say "we're looking for 'football players' and he has a top notch professional staff to scour them.
2) This is an Elliot Wolf pick, as Pluto points out. Wolf loves the guy. Did his homework. There's a reason Wolf is a highly paid NFL personnel guy and the dudes at Walter Football are writing their opinions on their laptop from a lunch diner while spilling a gyro on their fat belly.
In the third round you are looking for a plug and play guy, and we got one who becomes the fourth linebacker and special teams stud right away. Everyone complains about linebacker depth and special teams. Then we improve both corps dramatically with one pick and the complaining continues.
Guy was a bit of a trouble-maker, settled down, got married, had a fantastic season last year. He is considered a success story at BYU, and I trust Dorsey, Wolf et al to think he'll be a success story in Cleveland too.
Football player! I can see "Taki Taki" covered in mud already as he drills a rb back into the backfield on fourth and one.
Zombo
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Another local connection. Mormons started in Kirkland. Seems like a tough player and a good kid.
Another local connection. Mormons started in Kirkland. Seems like a tough player and a good kid.
Actually New York, then they started moving west.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Another local connection. Mormons started in Kirkland. Seems like a tough player and a good kid.
Actually New York, then they started moving west.
Actually New York, then they started moving west.
The first Mormon church in the US is in Kirtland.. I used to live in Kirtland.. Infact.. Steve Young made a personal pilgrimage there...
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Yes, but the religion started in upstate New York.
upstate New YorkMormons are a religious and cultural group related to Mormonism, the principal branch of the Latter Day Saint movement of Restorationist Christianity, initiated by Joseph Smith in upstate New York during the 1820s."You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
And NFL dislikes him.. And walter.. And nfldraftscout.. And PFF.. But of course - because I posted it, it must only be me who thinks it!
And NFL dislikes him.. And walter.. And nfldraftscout.. And PFF.. But of course - because I posted it, it must only be me who thinks it!
I get the surprise of a prospect being drafted ahead of the projections; but I don't get your level of protest over it at the 80th pick overall. Way too much Ticky-Tacky about Takitaki regardless of what Flip Flop Digest, the Weird Herald and your other football sources are telling you.
Here's the stats for the OLB we drafted:
2014 11 GP 19 TFL 4.0 TFL 3.O SACKS 0 PD 1 FF
2015 6 GP 21 TKL 7.0 TFL 3.5 SACKS 0 PD 1 FF
2017 13 GP 79 TKL 12.5 TFL 5.0 SACKS 2 PD O FF
2018 13 GP 118 TKL 9.0 TFL 3.0 SACKS 3 PD 0 FF
During the 2017 and 2018 seasons he started, he had 21.5 TFL, 8 sacks, 5 passes defensed and 197 tackles. As a part timer in his 1st 2 years, he had 11 TFL, 6.5 sacks, and 40 tackles. Looks like Takitaki can bring the sacky-sacky and tackles for losses for the right taker. Let's see what happens before we go skydiving without parachutes...
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I can't stand when people say things like "In Dorsey I trust" or "analytics driven pick" or even "Dorsey sucks". I prefer it when we value each pick independently of the people behind it, because we don't know if it was Dorsey's, analytics, or Defensive coordinator's pick.
As of today, many people think it is a reach, and as a dummie I am, I'm not the one to judge if it is a bad pick or not (there are some UDFAs in the HOF, IIRC, would you draft them with a 3rd round pick?).
I don't blindly trust in the Front Office as they are humans, but they'll have to convince me with this one.
I can't stand when people say things like "In Dorsey I trust" or "analytics driven pick" or even "Dorsey sucks". I prefer it when we value each pick independently of the people behind it, because we don't know if it was Dorsey's, analytics, or Defensive coordinator's pick.
As of today, many people think it is a reach, and as a dummie I am, I'm not the one to judge if it is a bad pick or not (there are some UDFAs in the HOF, IIRC, would you draft them with a 3rd round pick?).
I don't blindly trust in the Front Office as they are humans, but they'll have to convince me with this one.
Excellent take.
Refusing to ever criticize Dorsey because of blind homer faith is ridiculous, no matter the fact that he's done an excellent job in Cleveland.
And the not-so-subtle "Analytics driven pick" remarks are from people who still light candles to framed pictures of Sashi Brown, and are secretly pissed that Dorsey has done well.
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