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So, WHO got the best linebacker in the draft? not so fast...

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  • https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/04/mack-wilson-waited-three-long-days-to-hear-his-name-called-by-browns.html

    Browns scout Matt Donahoe said he wasn’t sure why Wilson fell so far, but he was happy it happened.

    “We liked Mack as a football player,” he said, “and we were lucky enough to get him in the fifth round.”

    Wilson didn’t start for the Crimson Tide until 2018. His production doesn’t jump off the page. He totaled 71 tackles in 2018, 4.5 for loss and one sack. One area where his production did stand out was in the passing game. He had six combined interceptions the last two seasons, four in 2017.

  • Let's hope so.

  • nice highlight video.   But he coulda' got a couple of personal foul penalties called if that was the NFL.

    Wouldn't it be great if we could get a safety, corner and linebacker as quality starters out of this draft?   (...and kicker, since we drafted one)

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  • Gotta love Cal's patented fact blind full force support for things he likes

    Here's hoping he ends up being great... But he's not the best LB in this draft.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    Gotta love Cal's patented fact blind full force support for things he likes

    Here's hoping he ends up being great... But he's not the best LB in this draft.

    @mld-woody said:

    Gotta love Cal's patented fact blind full force support for things he likes

    Here's hoping he ends up being great... But he's not the best LB in this draft.

    sorry, didn't mean to offend your michigan love affair. The "best linebacker" is the one who ends up being the

    best in the NFL. We don't know. I SAID MAYBE. Sure, White and your michigan heartthrob have more stats in college.

    But it's how they translate into the NFL.

    As a value pick - the Browns may have found the biggest steal of the draft. We'll see.

    But thanks for showing up with your typical woody bitch/personal insult post with nothing to back up your contentions.

    Where are the "facts" in YOUR post?

  • If nothing else, he will be hell on wheels on special teams.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    Gotta love Cal's patented fact blind full force support for things he likes

    Here's hoping he ends up being great... But he's not the best LB in this draft.

    @mld-woody said:

    Gotta love Cal's patented fact blind full force support for things he likes

    Here's hoping he ends up being great... But he's not the best LB in this draft.

    Well those are 2 different questions.   Is he the best linebacker in the draft? Or will he be the best linebacker playing in the NFL? He may not be the former because of his draft status but he could prove to be the latter. 

  • well, the best linebacker to draft, is the one who is going to be the best in the NFL.

    We all know Devin White and Woody's michigan heartthrob were far more highly regarded

    out of the college ranks -

    Here is Lance Zierlein (nfl analyst) apprisal of Bush:

      Overview

    "Undersized three-down linebacker with the speed and cover talent to make an easy transition to WILL linebacker as a pro. There will be NFL defenses who pass on Bush due to his lack of size, but his ability to play fast and free as an outside linebacker should supersede those concerns. He will miss some tackles and get engulfed by blockers at other times, but his play strength and ability to run and cover are extremely valuable in today's game and should not be diminished due to a tape measurement. "

    Here is LanceZierlein's appraisal of Wilson:

    NFL Comparison C.J. Mosley

    Overview

    He is today's version of an NFL linebacker with adequate size, plus strength and toughness, speed pursue and an ability to handle coverage duties on any down. Wilson is like a classically trained musician who hits his notes on time, but the question is whether or not he can play as a free-form, improvisational talent when the opportunity arises. Either way, he's a solid, three-down starter in any defensive scheme.

  • btw, Wilson also played H-back at times.

    Here is Lance Zierlein's appraisal of Devin White:

    NFL Comparison
    Myles Jack
     
    Overview

    "Running back convert out of high school who continues to show rapid development as a high-impact linebacker in a physical conference. White is still learning to take on blocks and play with better control/efficiency, but he's a willing pupil and coaching should improve both areas. White's work ethic, competitiveness, and rare play speed are elements that can't be taught and should push him into an early starter's role and a successful NFL career."

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  • going by Zierlein's opinions - being compared to C. J. Mosley is pretty frickin good, says I.

    If all three have great careers - seems to me that the Browns got a diamond in the rough -

    lower in the draft. If that holds true - the Browns research will have resulted in

    some brilliant cost-effectiveness in their draft process.

    Who knows - will see what transpires the next few years.

  • Kid's athletic as hell, but as a position convert was too inexperienced to standout in a Saban-BAMA D, which is very much of an assignment driven D like that of Mike Pettine, i.e., get to your assignment then react. Too often this can end up being "think about what you are assigned to do, then think what is the right thing to do from there."

    Plop a kid with this background into a "ready-fire-aim" system like Gregg Williams ran and I'd expect him to struggle early, but improve rapidly as he comes to understand that under Williams the only bad decision is making no decision.

    Don't know Wilks that well, but I think his approach lies between the two and far enough from Williams' that it will hinder Wilson's development into a 3-down guy. However, in the mean time he can be a heck of a 3rd down LB... has great Pass D skills.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Kid's athletic as hell, but as a position convert was too inexperienced to standout in a Saban-BAMA D, which is very much of an assignment driven D like that of Mike Pettine, i.e., get to your assignment then react. Too often this can end up being "think about what you are assigned to do, then think what is the right thing to do from there."

    Plop a kid with this background into a "ready-fire-aim" system like Gregg Williams ran and I'd expect him to struggle early, but improve rapidly as he comes to understand that under Williams the only bad decision is making no decision.

    Don't know Wilks that well, but I think his approach lies between the two and far enough from Williams' that it will hinder Wilson's development into a 3-down guy. However, in the mean time he can be a heck of a 3rd down LB... has great Pass D skills.

    @tour2ma said:

    Kid's athletic as hell, but as a position convert was too inexperienced to standout in a Saban-BAMA D, which is very much of an assignment driven D like that of Mike Pettine, i.e., get to your assignment then react. Too often this can end up being "think about what you are assigned to do, then think what is the right thing to do from there."

    Plop a kid with this background into a "ready-fire-aim" system like Gregg Williams ran and I'd expect him to struggle early, but improve rapidly as he comes to understand that under Williams the only bad decision is making no decision.

    Don't know Wilks that well, but I think his approach lies between the two and far enough from Williams' that it will hinder Wilson's development into a 3-down guy. However, in the mean time he can be a heck of a 3rd down LB... has great Pass D skills.

    In the mean time....we may have Takitaki to carry that weight.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    Gotta love Cal's patented fact blind full force support for things he likes

    Here's hoping he ends up being great... But he's not the best LB in this draft.

    @mld-woody said:

    Gotta love Cal's patented fact blind full force support for things he likes

    Here's hoping he ends up being great... But he's not the best LB in this draft.

    His production fell off the map in college. He was once touted as a first rounder and then he wasn't. The guy fell for a reason. Solid value where he was drafted tho.

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  • VagitronV Vagitron

    @mld-woody said:

    Gotta love Cal's patented fact blind full force support for things he likes

    Here's hoping he ends up being great... But he's not the best LB in this draft.

    His production fell off the map in college. He was once touted as a first rounder and then he wasn't. The guy fell for a reason. Solid value where he was drafted tho.

    @vagitron said:

    His production fell off the map in college. He was once touted as a first rounder and then he wasn't. The guy fell for a reason. Solid value where he was drafted tho.

    Bush's production fell off in college as well.....when Ohio State put 62 points on the board against him, and Rashan Gary...and that whole Michifuck defense. 

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @vagitron said:

    His production fell off the map in college. He was once touted as a first rounder and then he wasn't. The guy fell for a reason. Solid value where he was drafted tho.

    Bush's production fell off in college as well.....when Ohio State put 62 points on the board against him, and Rashan Gary...and that whole Michifuck defense. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Bush's production fell off in college as well.....when Ohio State put 62 points on the board against him, and Rashan Gary...and that whole Michifuck defense. 

    oh, woody just got a feather jammed in his throat over that fact. LOL LOL LOL

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @vagitron said:

    His production fell off the map in college. He was once touted as a first rounder and then he wasn't. The guy fell for a reason. Solid value where he was drafted tho.

    Bush's production fell off in college as well.....when Ohio State put 62 points on the board against him, and Rashan Gary...and that whole Michifuck defense. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Bush's production fell off in college as well.....when Ohio State put 62 points on the board against him, and Rashan Gary...and that whole Michifuck defense. 

    Gary is going to be a bust.

    The Steelers almost never trade up and they moved up ten spots to draft bush. The only two other times they have ever moved up was for Polamalu and Holmes. 

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  • The take away from Bush is that he's supposedly undersized, but the stealers have a special way of bulking up players rather quickly.

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  • since it's the steelers...he may end up with an extra two inches of height from the muscles in his feet....

  • VagitronV Vagitron

    @the-gipper said:

    Bush's production fell off in college as well.....when Ohio State put 62 points on the board against him, and Rashan Gary...and that whole Michifuck defense. 

    Gary is going to be a bust.

    The Steelers almost never trade up and they moved up ten spots to draft bush. The only two other times they have ever moved up was for Polamalu and Holmes. 

    @vagitron said:

    Gary is going to be a bust.

    The Steelers almost never trade up and they moved up ten spots to draft bush. The only two other times they have ever moved up was for Polamalu and Holmes. 

    Ernie Holmes.   part of the steel curtain?

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @vagitron said:

    Gary is going to be a bust.

    The Steelers almost never trade up and they moved up ten spots to draft bush. The only two other times they have ever moved up was for Polamalu and Holmes. 

    Ernie Holmes.   part of the steel curtain?

    @the-gipper said:

    Ernie Holmes.   part of the steel curtain?

    In the colbert era. My bad.

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