Myles Garrett Agree or Disagree with DPOY?
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I couldn’t take the starting and stopping in the video to make it even halfway through. I agree with second wave though, stupid to make a prediction like that this early, especially with guys like Aaron Donald, JJ Watt etc in the league.
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Tex still likes JFF.
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DPOY??.....who knows....but...
He should perform better because:
- Less reps due to stronger offense.....rested stronger faster etc
- Help on the DL, diminishing double teams.....
- 3rd year player coming into his prime....
- Playing from "ahead", meaning more opps to free lance and step on some throats.....
His numbers may NOT be better because.....
- Less reps due to stronger offense......(cant get sacks from the sideline)(less tackles on 3 and outs)
- Help on the DL may be diminishing opps for Myles
- Never on the field, because the O will own the TOP going fwd
- Might see a lot of late game prevent.....(would rather see us grinding it in, stepping on throats, running the score up)
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The return of the Mudman!!
To me the only thing that matters is the overall # of sacs, fumbles and hurries into INT's this team causes as a unit. I think if they again try to concentrate on stopping Garrett, the whole defense improves. I expect to see double the team numbers in sacs, fumbles and INTs. Whether that leads to the DPOY makes no difference (I know that is reason for hanging by fellow aggies).??
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did anyone catch in that video where Myles said Williams restricted his pass rushing moves? Im……...I dunno right now. Im completely dumbfounded to put it mildly. If that's true.....and I would think for Myles to speak about it publically like that it must be.....I mean god damn now I wish we would have tarred and feathered GW on his way out. I told y'all I smelled some bullshit with this defense last year. Dudes were doing weird shit that I couldn't explain...….maybe this is why. Is GW that arrogant that he looks at a gifted rusher like Garrett and says nahh that toolbelt of pass rush moves you've been developing for years now..that's all bullshit. When any noob fan can see the best pass rushers in the NFL today and throughout history, develop a "repertoire" of moves. This is insane. Literally. It just can't be true.....a guy like Williams cannot be this stupid.
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thats alot of words, most of which are projections and rambling...lol..like, GW is 'arrogant' as a reason for this decision. not trying to bash ya c4l...but thats it? arrogance? you think that the level of nuance here?
thats alot of words, most of which are projections and rambling...lol..like, GW is 'arrogant' as a reason for this decision. not trying to bash ya c4l...but thats it? arrogance? you think that the level of nuance here?
I honestly don't know dude. Im trying to figure out why an accomplished defensive coordinator would nerf one of the most gifted pass rushers in the last decade or two. Telling the kid "you only need these two moves".....what is that? It's not stupidity, we know GW is not a stupid guy.
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as for the thread topic, don't sleep on Olivier Vernon. I think he might have a bustout year rushing opposite Garrett and having those DL's next to him.
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did anyone catch in that video where Myles said Williams restricted his pass rushing moves? Im……...I dunno right now. Im completely dumbfounded to put it mildly. If that's true.....and I would think for Myles to speak about it publically like that it must be.....I mean god damn now I wish we would have tarred and feathered GW on his way out. I told y'all I smelled some bullshit with this defense last year. Dudes were doing weird shit that I couldn't explain...….maybe this is why. Is GW that arrogant that he looks at a gifted rusher like Garrett and says nahh that toolbelt of pass rush moves you've been developing for years now..that's all bullshit. When any noob fan can see the best pass rushers in the NFL today and throughout history, develop a "repertoire" of moves. This is insane. Literally. It just can't be true.....a guy like Williams cannot be this stupid.
did anyone catch in that video where Myles said Williams restricted his pass rushing moves? Im……...I dunno right now. Im completely dumbfounded to put it mildly. If that's true.....and I would think for Myles to speak about it publically like that it must be.....I mean god damn now I wish we would have tarred and feathered GW on his way out. I told y'all I smelled some bullshit with this defense last year. Dudes were doing weird shit that I couldn't explain...….maybe this is why. Is GW that arrogant that he looks at a gifted rusher like Garrett and says nahh that toolbelt of pass rush moves you've been developing for years now..that's all bullshit. When any noob fan can see the best pass rushers in the NFL today and throughout history, develop a "repertoire" of moves. This is insane. Literally. It just can't be true.....a guy like Williams cannot be this stupid.
Or....it's possible Williams was the reason for Garretts improvement to 13+ sacks last year.....maybe Garrett was wasting plays trying to get fancy and Williams coached him up cause he knew just what Garrett had to do to succeed.
Know what you do well and master it.....I think that might have been Williams point.....
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did anyone catch in that video where Myles said Williams restricted his pass rushing moves? Im……...I dunno right now. Im completely dumbfounded to put it mildly. If that's true.....and I would think for Myles to speak about it publically like that it must be.....I mean god damn now I wish we would have tarred and feathered GW on his way out. I told y'all I smelled some bullshit with this defense last year. Dudes were doing weird shit that I couldn't explain...….maybe this is why. Is GW that arrogant that he looks at a gifted rusher like Garrett and says nahh that toolbelt of pass rush moves you've been developing for years now..that's all bullshit. When any noob fan can see the best pass rushers in the NFL today and throughout history, develop a "repertoire" of moves. This is insane. Literally. It just can't be true.....a guy like Williams cannot be this stupid.
Or....it's possible Williams was the reason for Garretts improvement to 13+ sacks last year.....maybe Garrett was wasting plays trying to get fancy and Williams coached him up cause he knew just what Garrett had to do to succeed.
Know what you do well and master it.....I think that might have been Williams point.....
Or....it's possible Williams was the reason for Garretts improvement to 13+ sacks last year.....maybe Garrett was wasting plays trying to get fancy and Williams coached him up cause he knew just what Garrett had to do to succeed.
Know what you do well and master it.....I think that might have been Williams point.....
with your standard run of the mill pass rushers, sure...get them good at one or two moves and you can get some pockets collapsing. With a talent like Garrett....I don't see the logic behind that. Let him react to what the tackle does. And as Garrett said in that video, he was becoming too predictable. Predictability is a bitch in the NFL.
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kinda what i was thinking mud...keep it simple, get good at 2 moves, then start adding more. better to be very good at a few things than ok at many.
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again, why would u tell a pass rushing savant like myles to stick with 2 moves? rookie season ok....but by his 2nd year u ougyta be taking the limiter off that race engine.
Joey had 20+ sacks by the end of his sophomore year....and u can be sure he got there by using more than 1 or 2 moves. Joey was a better run stopper than myles coming out of college, but myles was the overall more gifted pass rusher. Yeah joey prob benefitted from hsving melvin ingram on the other side.....but knowing myles wss being nerfed like that mskes me think he could have had as many or more sacks than joey by his 2nd year.
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Vernon Olivier quietly leading this defensive team under the radar until we start ambushing offenses. I predict he leads the team in sacks this year, which is a good thing since Garrett will get his quota too.
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He will be a sack machine, probably 12-15 sacks, 10 is the least he may get, but i disagree with him being DPOY.. Unless he puts up Aaron Donald numbers.
He is my choice for DPOY.. That guy is gonna be a problem vs us..
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Vernon Olivier quietly leading this defensive team under the radar until we start ambushing offenses. I predict he leads the team in sacks this year, which is a good thing since Garrett will get his quota too.
Vernon Olivier quietly leading this defensive team under the radar until we start ambushing offenses. I predict he leads the team in sacks this year, which is a good thing since Garrett will get his quota too.
If he does, it’s likely due to the double teams that Garrett will be drawing.
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Vernon Olivier quietly leading this defensive team under the radar until we start ambushing offenses. I predict he leads the team in sacks this year, which is a good thing since Garrett will get his quota too.
If he does, it’s likely due to the double teams that Garrett will be drawing.
If he does, it’s likely due to the double teams that Garrett will be drawing.
go look at his 2018 tape dude. Not that I want myles to get hurt...but if he does, im still comfortable with our edge rush with Vernon on one side and likely Avery and Smith getting more reps. Vernon is an absolute terror. He might be slightly more athletic than Myles. Myles is bigger tho. NY lined up Vernon as a LB'er a lot...I even saw a few reps at MLB'er. You'd think a guy that would be fast enough to do that wouldn't have the size and strength to line up at DE most of the time. But he does. And he holds the edge like a boss. Watch his tape where he runs sideline to sideline. Watch Dallas have to double him. Honest to god I more understand NY parting ways with OBJ than I do Vernon.
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i'll even go so far as to say just based off last years tape....Vernon might be a bit more powerful and explosive than Myles. Vernon's also 28 and is fully matured. Myles is still gonna get faster and stronger if he stays healthy and in the league. I'll reserve full judgement till I see Vernon and Myles come off the line opening day......but Vernon really is something special
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Good Stuff Cleve..I invite anyone to go back to the final Ravens game & watch how many times the Rat turds ran a dive read off block play behind Marshal Yanda..Vernon will read the hell out of that in his office..The Chargers running all over our outside edges should get turned inside..Where Schobert /Wilson or Taki have to make tackles..Yanda was that close to retiring after last season..did not happen..that dude is a damn Bear..
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If he does, it’s likely due to the double teams that Garrett will be drawing.
go look at his 2018 tape dude. Not that I want myles to get hurt...but if he does, im still comfortable with our edge rush with Vernon on one side and likely Avery and Smith getting more reps. Vernon is an absolute terror. He might be slightly more athletic than Myles. Myles is bigger tho. NY lined up Vernon as a LB'er a lot...I even saw a few reps at MLB'er. You'd think a guy that would be fast enough to do that wouldn't have the size and strength to line up at DE most of the time. But he does. And he holds the edge like a boss. Watch his tape where he runs sideline to sideline. Watch Dallas have to double him. Honest to god I more understand NY parting ways with OBJ than I do Vernon.
go look at his 2018 tape dude. Not that I want myles to get hurt...but if he does, im still comfortable with our edge rush with Vernon on one side and likely Avery and Smith getting more reps. Vernon is an absolute terror. He might be slightly more athletic than Myles. Myles is bigger tho. NY lined up Vernon as a LB'er a lot...I even saw a few reps at MLB'er. You'd think a guy that would be fast
I don’t need to look at tape. I know who Vernon is and I loved the acquisition from the second it happened. You’re not the only person who holds an opinion about Vernon. Our defense has the potential to be great. I am 100% aware.
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