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  • its pretty clear thst trump is getting chsrged with obstruction the moment he leaves office.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    To make clear, there is no such thing as 'innocent' in legal proceedings.  You're either charged or found not guilty. 

    I wish the POTUS would use more accurate terminology.      Just splitting hairs I guess. 

    Not quite. Constitutionally everyone should be considered innocent until they are proven guilty. So there's that.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Not quite. Constitutionally everyone should be considered innocent until they are proven guilty. So there's that.

    WSS

    But nobody is ever declared nor found 'innocent' -  the innocence is presumed. 

    Yes, the President can say he is innocent. I'm totally fine with that. But again where I split hairs is if he was to imply or out right say he was found 'innocent'.   

    Trivial either way, I digress. 

  • its pretty clear at this point rusdia put this dude in office. But.....the information they released that put him there was hillarys own dirty laundry. Something dems dont want to acknowledge. 

    my issue with trump is whybthe kiddy gloves with russia if he didnt sctively collude with them? does he feel.he owes them? These investigations are quite clear thst russia along with prob multiole other countries....have tried to hack our election machines. If theres ever a reason to go to war its thst right there. Nothing Iran is doing even remotely stsnds next to that....same with NK. This should priority #1 for any sitting potus....unless he feels grateful to a certain extent

    @clevfan4life said:

    its pretty clear at this point rusdia put this dude in office. But.....the information they released that put him there was hillarys own dirty laundry. Something dems dont want to acknowledge. 

    my issue with trump is whybthe kiddy gloves with russia if he didnt sctively collude with them? does he feel.he owes them? These investigations are quite clear thst russia along with prob multiole other countries....have tried to hack our election machines. If theres ever a reason to go to war its thst right there. Nothing Iran is doing even remotely stsnds next to that....same with NK. This should priority #1 for any sitting potus....unless he feels grateful to a certain extent

    Go to War with Russia, or the UK and Australia (the two most guilty FVEY parties) ?

    @clevfan4life said:

    its pretty clear thst trump is getting chsrged with obstruction the moment he leaves office.

    This right here is why he will win.

    If you don't think he knows they will come after him and his family (already have) after he's out of Office you're not thinking things through.

    He's going to do a Scorched Earth campaign against the DS, if he doesn't he's toast.

    It's Win or Die.

    The coming Impeachment proceedings should be rather informative though   .   .   .  

  • @clevfan4life said:

    its pretty clear at this point rusdia put this dude in office. But.....the information they released that put him there was hillarys own dirty laundry. Something dems dont want to acknowledge. 

    my issue with trump is whybthe kiddy gloves with russia if he didnt sctively collude with them? does he feel.he owes them? These investigations are quite clear thst russia along with prob multiole other countries....have tried to hack our election machines. If theres ever a reason to go to war its thst right there. Nothing Iran is doing even remotely stsnds next to that....same with NK. This should priority #1 for any sitting potus....unless he feels grateful to a certain extent

    Go to War with Russia, or the UK and Australia (the two most guilty FVEY parties) ?

    @clevfan4life said:

    its pretty clear thst trump is getting chsrged with obstruction the moment he leaves office.

    This right here is why he will win.

    If you don't think he knows they will come after him and his family (already have) after he's out of Office you're not thinking things through.

    He's going to do a Scorched Earth campaign against the DS, if he doesn't he's toast.

    It's Win or Die.

    The coming Impeachment proceedings should be rather informative though   .   .   .  

    @jafbf said:

    Go to War with Russia, or the UK and Australia (the two most guilty FVEY parties) ?

    This right here is why he will win.

    If you don't think he knows they will come after him and his family (already have) after he's out of Office you're not thinking things through.

    He's going to do a Scorched Earth campaign against the DS, if he doesn't he's toast.

    It's Win or Die.

    The coming Impeachment proceedings should be rather informative though   .   .   .  

    Obstruction of Justice for no underlying crime so what exactly is that about?...Trump has been the victim of a scorched earth policy by the dems and I hope he fights back with every weapon in his arsenal as well as having conservatives start investigations themselves against many of these hypocritical dems and their families. The dems should have to experience what they have put this president through.

    Steve Hilton: Washington, D.C. political and media establishment have 'lost their minds'

    Steve Hilton asked on Fox News' "The Next Revolution" whether Democrats should be subject to the same type of investigations as President Trump, arguing that impeachment appears to be the strategy for resolving the parties' "political differences."

    Hilton said on "The Next Revolution" Sunday night he was left thinking "FFS" all week as he watched "ludicrous, melodramatic" statements from top Democrats like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler.

    "Hilton said Democrats are pursuing "spurious" investigations and subpoenas instead of working with Trump "to get things done." He said Democrats' actions against Trump will "come back to haunt" them.

    "If total, all-out investigation is now the chosen tactic to obstruct political opponents, let's make sure it's applied with equal force to the Democrats. Let's get Nancy Pelosi's tax returns and her husband's while we're at it and Maxine Waters' bank statements. That'll be fun," said Hilton."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/steve-hilton-washington-political-and-media-establishment-have-lost-their-minds

  • @jafbf said:

    Go to War with Russia, or the UK and Australia (the two most guilty FVEY parties) ?

    This right here is why he will win.

    If you don't think he knows they will come after him and his family (already have) after he's out of Office you're not thinking things through.

    He's going to do a Scorched Earth campaign against the DS, if he doesn't he's toast.

    It's Win or Die.

    The coming Impeachment proceedings should be rather informative though   .   .   .  

    Obstruction of Justice for no underlying crime so what exactly is that about?...Trump has been the victim of a scorched earth policy by the dems and I hope he fights back with every weapon in his arsenal as well as having conservatives start investigations themselves against many of these hypocritical dems and their families. The dems should have to experience what they have put this president through.

    Steve Hilton: Washington, D.C. political and media establishment have 'lost their minds'

    Steve Hilton asked on Fox News' "The Next Revolution" whether Democrats should be subject to the same type of investigations as President Trump, arguing that impeachment appears to be the strategy for resolving the parties' "political differences."

    Hilton said on "The Next Revolution" Sunday night he was left thinking "FFS" all week as he watched "ludicrous, melodramatic" statements from top Democrats like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler.

    "Hilton said Democrats are pursuing "spurious" investigations and subpoenas instead of working with Trump "to get things done." He said Democrats' actions against Trump will "come back to haunt" them.

    "If total, all-out investigation is now the chosen tactic to obstruct political opponents, let's make sure it's applied with equal force to the Democrats. Let's get Nancy Pelosi's tax returns and her husband's while we're at it and Maxine Waters' bank statements. That'll be fun," said Hilton."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/steve-hilton-washington-political-and-media-establishment-have-lost-their-minds

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Obstruction of Justice for no underlying crime so what exactly is that about?...Trump has been the victim of a scorched earth policy by the dems and I hope he fights back with every weapon in his arsenal as well as having conservatives start investigations themselves against many of these hypocritical dems and their families. The dems should have to experience what they have put this president through.

    Republicans*   ?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Not quite. Constitutionally everyone should be considered innocent until they are proven guilty. So there's that.

    WSS

    But nobody is ever declared nor found 'innocent' -  the innocence is presumed. 

    Yes, the President can say he is innocent. I'm totally fine with that. But again where I split hairs is if he was to imply or out right say he was found 'innocent'.   

    Trivial either way, I digress. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    But nobody is ever declared nor found 'innocent' -  the innocence is presumed. 

     yes it is. Hence...

    Yes, the President can say he is innocent. I'm totally fine with that. But again where I split hairs is if he was to imply or out right say he was found 'innocent'.   

    Trivial either way, I digress. 

     indeed

    WSS

    @clevfan4life said:

    its pretty clear thst trump is getting chsrged with obstruction the moment he leaves office.

    Good to keep your dreams modest. But you know and I know that wants Trump is out of office nobody is going to give ship number one about this nickel-and-dime charge.

    They don't care now it's just something to bitch about until 2020.

    WSS

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Obstruction of Justice for no underlying crime so what exactly is that about?...Trump has been the victim of a scorched earth policy by the dems and I hope he fights back with every weapon in his arsenal as well as having conservatives start investigations themselves against many of these hypocritical dems and their families. The dems should have to experience what they have put this president through.

    Republicans*   ?

    @tiamat63 said:

    Republicans*   ?

    *Conservative republicans..........

  • its pretty clear at this point rusdia put this dude in office. But.....the information they released that put him there was hillarys own dirty laundry. Something dems dont want to acknowledge. 

    my issue with trump is whybthe kiddy gloves with russia if he didnt sctively collude with them? does he feel.he owes them? These investigations are quite clear thst russia along with prob multiole other countries....have tried to hack our election machines. If theres ever a reason to go to war its thst right there. Nothing Iran is doing even remotely stsnds next to that....same with NK. This should priority #1 for any sitting potus....unless he feels grateful to a certain extent

    @clevfan4life said:

    @tiamat63 said:

    But nobody is ever declared nor found 'innocent' -  the innocence is presumed. 

    Innocent or guilty of what though?

    Can't you see this was not an investigation, it was part of an administrative coup and Mueller was a player. This latest act by Mueller was a last gasp effort to overturn the election of a president they hate.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    But nobody is ever declared nor found 'innocent' -  the innocence is presumed. 

     yes it is. Hence...

    Yes, the President can say he is innocent. I'm totally fine with that. But again where I split hairs is if he was to imply or out right say he was found 'innocent'.   

    Trivial either way, I digress. 

     indeed

    WSS

    @clevfan4life said:

    its pretty clear thst trump is getting chsrged with obstruction the moment he leaves office.

    Good to keep your dreams modest. But you know and I know that wants Trump is out of office nobody is going to give ship number one about this nickel-and-dime charge.

    They don't care now it's just something to bitch about until 2020.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    WSS

    Good to keep your dreams modest. But you know and I know that wants Trump is out of office nobody is going to give ship number one about this nickel-and-dime charge.

    They don't care now it's just something to bitch about until 2020.

    WSS

    It is a nothing burger charge but never underestimate what people will do who are infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome. 

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  • @jafbf said:

    Go to War with Russia, or the UK and Australia (the two most guilty FVEY parties) ?

    This right here is why he will win.

    If you don't think he knows they will come after him and his family (already have) after he's out of Office you're not thinking things through.

    He's going to do a Scorched Earth campaign against the DS, if he doesn't he's toast.

    It's Win or Die.

    The coming Impeachment proceedings should be rather informative though   .   .   .  

    Obstruction of Justice for no underlying crime so what exactly is that about?...Trump has been the victim of a scorched earth policy by the dems and I hope he fights back with every weapon in his arsenal as well as having conservatives start investigations themselves against many of these hypocritical dems and their families. The dems should have to experience what they have put this president through.

    Steve Hilton: Washington, D.C. political and media establishment have 'lost their minds'

    Steve Hilton asked on Fox News' "The Next Revolution" whether Democrats should be subject to the same type of investigations as President Trump, arguing that impeachment appears to be the strategy for resolving the parties' "political differences."

    Hilton said on "The Next Revolution" Sunday night he was left thinking "FFS" all week as he watched "ludicrous, melodramatic" statements from top Democrats like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler.

    "Hilton said Democrats are pursuing "spurious" investigations and subpoenas instead of working with Trump "to get things done." He said Democrats' actions against Trump will "come back to haunt" them.

    "If total, all-out investigation is now the chosen tactic to obstruct political opponents, let's make sure it's applied with equal force to the Democrats. Let's get Nancy Pelosi's tax returns and her husband's while we're at it and Maxine Waters' bank statements. That'll be fun," said Hilton."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/steve-hilton-washington-political-and-media-establishment-have-lost-their-minds

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Obstruction of Justice for no underlying crime so what exactly is that about?...Trump has been the victim of a scorched earth policy by the dems and I hope he fights back with every weapon in his arsenal as well as having conservatives start investigations themselves against many of these hypocritical dems and their families. The dems should have to experience what they have put this president through.

    Steve Hilton: Washington, D.C. political and media establishment have 'lost their minds'

    Steve Hilton asked on Fox News' "The Next Revolution" whether Democrats should be subject to the same type of investigations as President Trump, arguing that impeachment appears to be the strategy for resolving the parties' "political differences."

    Hilton said on "The Next Revolution" Sunday night he was left thinking "FFS" all week as he watched "ludicrous, melodramatic" statements from top Democrats like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler.

    "Hilton said Democrats are pursuing "spurious" investigations and subpoenas instead of working with Trump "to get things done." He said Democrats' actions against Trump will "come back to haunt" them.

    "If total, all-out investigation is now the chosen tactic to obstruct political opponents, let's make sure it's applied with equal force to the Democrats. Let's get Nancy Pelosi's tax returns and her husband's while we're at it and Maxine Waters' bank statements. That'll be fun," said Hilton."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/steve-hilton-washington-political-and-media-establishment-have-lost-their-minds

    I probably should have been a bit clearer on my reply.

    I was referring to his point (Obstruction) as to the fact that once he's out of Office, they are going to come after him and his family for everything and anything they can.

    They will destroy him and anything he has built.

    He knows this, and knew it when he first decided to run.

    The loser can not be allowed to survive, and in the oppositions' view, go unpunished.

    This is truly a winner take all situation, and is why he will not lose.

  • What Trump did to obstruct justice has nothing to do with the "deep state". He will be charged with obstruction irrespective of any "shadow govt". Or are you suggesting he's going to make himself ceasar? Is that what you think should happen?

  • Andy McCarthy explains why Mueller was wrong in his explosive statement this morning

    https://therightscoop.com/andy-mccarthy-explains-why-mueller-was-wrong-in-his-explosive-statement-this-morning/

  • he broke the law, period end of discussion. The only reason he's not being charged is this loophole in our system that a sitting potus can't be charged with obstruction. I don't know about all this family business but if they committed crimes too....well......

  • he broke the law, period end of discussion. The only reason he's not being charged is this loophole in our system that a sitting potus can't be charged with obstruction. I don't know about all this family business but if they committed crimes too....well......

    @clevfan4life said:

    he broke the law, period end of discussion. The only reason he's not being charged is this loophole in our system that a sitting potus can't be charged with obstruction. I don't know about all this family business but if they committed crimes too....well......

    The dems are opening a can of worms that they are going to regret. The country has already witnessed the two tier justice system where Hillary Clinton who did actually commit crimes was exonerated by corrupt FBI officials. If Trump was guilty of obstructing justice there was nothing preventing Mueller from stating that in his report. Ken Star in his report against Bill Clinton stated Clinton was guilty of 11 charges. 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    he broke the law, period end of discussion. The only reason he's not being charged is this loophole in our system that a sitting potus can't be charged with obstruction. I don't know about all this family business but if they committed crimes too....well......

    The dems are opening a can of worms that they are going to regret. The country has already witnessed the two tier justice system where Hillary Clinton who did actually commit crimes was exonerated by corrupt FBI officials. If Trump was guilty of obstructing justice there was nothing preventing Mueller from stating that in his report. Ken Star in his report against Bill Clinton stated Clinton was guilty of 11 charges. 

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    The dems are opening a can of worms that they are going to regret. The country has already witnessed the two tier justice system where Hillary Clinton who did actually commit crimes was exonerated by corrupt FBI officials. If Trump was guilty of obstructing justice there was nothing preventing Mueller from stating that in his report. Ken Star in his report against Bill Clinton stated Clinton was guilty of 11 charges. 

    Because Bill didn't obstruct the investigation. It's an apples to oranges comparison. Bill was guilty of dipping his cigars in an interns vagina and then lying about it. Mueller did not find definitive collusion between Trump and Russia but during the investigation the guy obstructed it. And Mueller put those instances in his report did he not? He couldnt' charge Trump with obstruction and he knew it. So he left it to the house and senate. Dude's hands were tied. Neither side is happy with him but I think he did it the right way. 

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    The dems are opening a can of worms that they are going to regret. The country has already witnessed the two tier justice system where Hillary Clinton who did actually commit crimes was exonerated by corrupt FBI officials. If Trump was guilty of obstructing justice there was nothing preventing Mueller from stating that in his report. Ken Star in his report against Bill Clinton stated Clinton was guilty of 11 charges. 

    Because Bill didn't obstruct the investigation. It's an apples to oranges comparison. Bill was guilty of dipping his cigars in an interns vagina and then lying about it. Mueller did not find definitive collusion between Trump and Russia but during the investigation the guy obstructed it. And Mueller put those instances in his report did he not? He couldnt' charge Trump with obstruction and he knew it. So he left it to the house and senate. Dude's hands were tied. Neither side is happy with him but I think he did it the right way. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    Because Bill didn't obstruct the investigation. It's an apples to oranges comparison. Bill was guilty of dipping his cigars in an interns vagina and then lying about it. Mueller did not find definitive collusion between Trump and Russia but during the investigation the guy obstructed it. And Mueller put those instances in his report did he not?

    When Clinton told Lewinsky to lie under oath wasn't that obstructing justice? 

    The obstructing charge is ticky tack. Trump fired Comey who deserved to be fired. Trump asked for Comey's loyalty...big deal. Trump asked Comey to give General Flynn a break because he was a good guy...big deal he didn't order Comey to do anything. Trump misrepresented why Comey was fired..big deal he could fire Comey for anything he wanted to and even Comey has admitted that. Trump asked Sessions to un-recuse himself..big deal Sessions should have never recused himself in the first place. Rosenstein had way more conflicts than Sessions and he never recused himself..and all of this is in regards to Trump being innocent of the underlying charge in the first place and he was trying to defend himself.

  • Mueller looked, talked and walked feeble.  I think he is suffering from Dementia.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Republicans*   ?

    *Conservative republicans..........

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    *Conservative republicans..........

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