Brown pants on the road??
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How about adding a tannish color?
How about adding a tannish color?
Tan??? Uh no, it's the Browns, not the Tans.
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To me, it's been conventional wisdom for years that home teams chose their light jerseys to start the season and generally kept them even when the weather changed.
It hasn't. For years and years, the Cowboys and Browns were the only teams to wear white at home.....how often over the years have you seen Dallas in their blue jerseys?? Not that often.
That is why until recently you rarely saw the Browns in their brown jerseys.
Most teams wear their colors at home and whites on the road.
I like the whites because that is what we wore when we were good.
It hasn't. For years and years, the Cowboys and Browns were the only teams to wear white at home.....how often over the years have you seen Dallas in their blue jerseys?? Not that often.
That is why until recently you rarely saw the Browns in their brown jerseys.
Most teams wear their colors at home and whites on the road.
The story that i've inherited from my father is that Modell wanted to give his home fans an opportunity to see the opposing team in their colors.
Separately (and not from my father), i've heard that their is a slight competitive advantage in sticking with the whites. That is because the skilled positions don't have to alternate their eye between darks and whites from game to game. i'm not sure i buy into that.
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An "old school" thought on this subject..
Wearing white gave the appearance of being bigger.... Hense a subconscience effect by the opponents that the team wearing white was physically bigger...
Peace
T.Dawg
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Glad to see a couple of old timers showing up to verify what this old timer has been saying...we have worn white at home since the days of Paul Brown.
I too have heard the white makes you look bigger theory.
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How about adding a tannish color?
Tan??? Uh no, it's the Browns, not the Tans.
Tan??? Uh no, it's the Browns, not the Tans.
Brown shirts with a tan/ wheat color pants.
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@shepwrite said:
Not a lover of the white on white. Hated when the old LA Rams wore it, too. I think that's why I liked the Brown pants.Again... we're the Browns.
Agreed...so why the orange??
I don't mind brown jerseys...pants look like crap
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I like any Orange/Brown combination.
Don't like Orange on Orange, I think someone already said too "Clemson-like".
White shirts go best with either white or orange pants, not Brown.
Not that anybody cares but that's my opinion.
I'm not buying any psychological or physical advantages to the color of the jersey.
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@shepwrite said:
I confess: I thought the brown pants looked awesome.agreed. I hope they use brown pants+brown uniforms lol
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Dont get me wrong I am proud of our history as a team. I'd like for us to come up with a uniform combo and make our own luck with it. I like the orange jerseys and white pants. I also like the brown pants. I think brown on brown and orange on orange would be a little bit too much. Just my opinion tho...
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Tan??? Uh no, it's the Browns, not the Tans.
Brown shirts with a tan/ wheat color pants.
Brown shirts with a tan/ wheat color pants.
Wheat colored pants???? No thanks.
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Well, let's review the Road schedule:
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN Invesco Field at Mile High 4:15 PM .... The Broncos have never in my recollection worn white at home....likelyhood of Brown pants...HIGH
3 Sep 27 CLE @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM ... The Rats have worn white at home a few times, but I have noticed they ALWAYS wear that hideous Grape shiite when playing AFC North teams....likelyhood of Brown pants...HIGH
5 Oct 11 CLE @ BUF Ralph Wilson Stadium 1:00 PM ....The Bills have occasionally worn white at home, but it's NEVER hot in Buffalo....likelyhood of Brown pants....GOOD
6 Oct 18 CLE @ PIT Heinz Field 1:00 PM ....The Cheaters NEVER wear white in the Mustard Pit.....likelyhood of Brown pants.....VERY HIGH
8 Nov 01 CLE @ CHI Soldier Field 1:00 PM .....Da Bearz NEVER wear white at home.....likelyhood of Brown pants.....VERY HIGH
11 Nov 22 CLE @ DET Ford Field 1:00 PM ....The Lions have started to mix things up and will be sporting new unis this year, but historically they wear Blue at home.....likelyhood of Brown pants....MODERATE
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN Paul Brown Stadium ....The Bungholes occasionally sport the white at home, but like the Rats they always seem to wear the Black versus the AFC North teams.....likelyhood of Brown pants....HIGH
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM ....I have NEVER seen the Chiefs wear white at home.....likelyhood of Brown pants.....HIGH
So, if we're gonna wear 'em, good chance we'll see 'em alot. I'm not a big fan of toying with the uniform. I like the white/white combo very much myself, but if we're winning I don't care if they're wearing Danskin dance pants.
Doug
How the hell do you remember what each team wears at home? My god, your mind is almost brilliantly autistic or something. I can't remember what I wore yesterday or even earlier today.
I still find it hard to believe a team would give up an advantage of wearing dark unis in the heat if given the choice, sounds stupid to me. For those who played football, the difference in wearing a dark jersey to light jersey in any temps over about 60 are huge in the daytime.
Maybe it's college I'm thinking of, those southern teams play in some pretty extreme heat in the hottest part of the day.
How the hell do you remember what each team wears at home? My god, your mind is almost brilliantly autistic or something. I can't remember what I wore yesterday or even earlier today.
I still find it hard to believe a team would give up an advantage of wearing dark unis in the heat if given the choice, sounds stupid to me. For those who played football, the difference in wearing a dark jersey to light jersey in any temps over about 60 are huge in the daytime.
Maybe it's college I'm thinking of, those southern teams play in some pretty extreme heat in the hottest part of the day.
I'm gonna show the wife this post so that I can once and for all prove to her that I'm brilliant. The Riffer said so.
Don't know how or why I remember certain things so well, but when it comes to obsessions (The Browns, Alice Cooper, Football & Rock 'N' Roll), my mind is like a steel trap.
If I got to choose, we'd wear white, white in all 19 games....YES "19" games!
Doug
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I'm not crazy about the idea of playing around too much with the uniforms, but I won't have a conniption fit if they do it, especially in the preseason. Teams fiddle with their uniforms, including the Browns--you know, the guys who used to play in white helmets part of the time. The Browns just feel different because, well, for one thing, it's our team, and for another, most of the tweaks to the uniform have been minor.
Yes, the uniforms are traditional, but it's tradition that comes from a franchise that thinks this:
is an intimidating mascot (hat tip to the Browns Board, by the way, for being the first hit on Google Images for "Brownie the Elf").
Maybe this:
would scare people, but probably for the wrong reasons.
I've never gotten the love for Brownie. It's not just that he's an elf (which is more annoying or creepy than intimidating), but he's not even a particularly scary type of elf. Here's a relevent passage from the Wikipedia entry on brownies:
>>Customarily brownies (A type of hob – see hobgoblin) are said to inhabit houses and aid in tasks around the house. However, they don't like to be seen and will only work at night, traditionally in exchange for small gifts or food. They take quite a delight in porridge and honey. They usually abandon the house if their gifts are called payments, or if the owners of the house misuse them. Brownies make their homes in an unused part of the house.<<
That's right, the mighty elf that's been scaring the pants off the NFL for half a century have also been helping shoemakers for centuries. Good God.
Dennis
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I'm just glad to actually see so many others that wouldn't mind changing up our uni's. I've been on this bandwagon for years that it's time to let go of the old. I didn't love the brown pants and thought they could have used something on the side but I did love the fact they were trying something new. And they didn't look that bad.
It's time to make a change for the future. We are constantly reminded of our history. We constantly hear of the championship days and what not. But the problem is this: IT IS 2009. That was.....wait for it.......50 FRIGGIN' YEARS AGO.
I've said this in the past and will state it again: It is time for the Browns to seriously look toward and strategize for the future. The fan base is dwindling faster than pop-culture stars are dying. When I travel around America I see fewer and fewer shirts, jerseys or Browns stuff overall. You can say that if we win that will change it all. But I contend that with the ADD society that is being created by the internet, twitter, texting and breaking news runners on the bottom of every station that the Browns are losing the interest of even it's core fan base in Cleveland. Kids don't have to root for the Browns because that's all they can see on TV or read about in the paper. They have an equal amount of access to ALL of the NFL teams. And with as finicky as kids are, many times they shy away from the Browns because of what they look like in their uni's.
There is a reason that every time a poll is taken from fans to players that our uni is in the bottom 3. It's because it's ugly. Face it. It is. We all love it because it's what we were raised around. We love it because our Dad's loved it. We love it because of what it used to stand for. We love it because it's the Browns. But they don't. They see an ugly uniform and a bad team. One is harder to fix than the other. Why not fix both?
All I'm saying is it's time to worry about maintaining our fan base and this is one avenue to attract the youth of America. We can sit back and say "Screw them if they don't like it. We don't need bandwagon fans or fans that aren't real fans." But that short-sighted view will cripple the future fanbase of our team and I, for one, hope that my son and daughter will have as many friends to enjoy the Browns and football with as I have in my 37 years.
Make the changes. Keep them minor. Don't add a logo to the helmet. Tweak the orange. There is a reason why hot rods are painted in a cool metallic orange and not safety barrel orange. Because it's cool and safety barrel orange isn't. Add a color like pewter or gray or silver. I'm not down with the 'wheat' or tan that was proposed, but I do appreciate the thought. Lose some of the stripes. We used to have a ton of stripes because we had LONG SLEEVES. We don't need them anymore. Things like this are what we need for our uniforms.
Evolve. Move forward. It's time.
Oh yeah - a little winning wouldn't hurt either.....
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I'm not crazy about the idea of playing around too much with the uniforms, but I won't have a conniption fit if they do it, especially in the preseason. Teams fiddle with their uniforms, including the Browns--you know, the guys who used to play in white helmets part of the time. The Browns just feel different because, well, for one thing, it's our team, and for another, most of the tweaks to the uniform have been minor.
Yes, the uniforms are traditional, but it's tradition that comes from a franchise that thinks this:
is an intimidating mascot (hat tip to the Browns Board, by the way, for being the first hit on Google Images for "Brownie the Elf").
Maybe this:
would scare people, but probably for the wrong reasons.
I've never gotten the love for Brownie. It's not just that he's an elf (which is more annoying or creepy than intimidating), but he's not even a particularly scary type of elf. Here's a relevent passage from the Wikipedia entry on brownies:
>>Customarily brownies (A type of hob – see hobgoblin) are said to inhabit houses and aid in tasks around the house. However, they don't like to be seen and will only work at night, traditionally in exchange for small gifts or food. They take quite a delight in porridge and honey. They usually abandon the house if their gifts are called payments, or if the owners of the house misuse them. Brownies make their homes in an unused part of the house.<<
That's right, the mighty elf that's been scaring the pants off the NFL for half a century have also been helping shoemakers for centuries. Good God.
Dennis
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The brown pants wouldnt be so bad if they were striped with a big orange stripe in the middle with a white stripe on both sides of the orange or vica versa or even 2 small orange stripes with brown in the middle and some matching socks but the raw brown is total ghetto looks as classless as the last regime....
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Agree with doing SOMETHING. I like tradition, wouldn't favor a logo on the helmet, but if any team should think about a cool side-leg stripe, etc, it should be the Browns. What's the harm? Try it, if it isn't liked, bag it.
Tradition is important, but it can stymie innovation, creation, and progress as well.
The NFL may have to push some as I think as Mangini is only one step above the Bellicheck hooded sweatshirt. Butch Davis was asked by Jim Donovan once if he'd bring the orange uni's back out sometime, and Butch replied "oh, I have no idea, the NFL offices tell us what to wear and when". It may have been a line to get out of the answer, but probably some truth to it.
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