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  • @dutch-oven said:

    He's a possession receiver making a ton of money on a team that finally has young talent, young talent that will need to paid big money to remain on the Browns.

    Wouldn't shock me at all if this is Landry's last season with the Browns. 

    I know, I thought the same thing.  We needed Landry's intensity and attitude after coming off a winless season, but when you look at his numbers and then the production, it's a tough sell.  That being said, should Landry blow up this year with 1200 yards and 10 TDs, then you can't get rid of him no matter what.  LOL.  He could easily have better numbers than OBJ if only for injury concerns.  

    I certainly HOPE we don't cut him or trade him because I think he's good for our team, I really do.  Good for our franchise in ways that go beyond stats and analytics.   

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @jiggins7919 said:

    .....................  He could easily have better numbers than OBJ if only for injury concerns............................. 

    ^ That is my biggest concern over everything else, including proposing to the kicking net.  

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    .....................  He could easily have better numbers than OBJ if only for injury concerns............................. 

    ^ That is my biggest concern over everything else, including proposing to the kicking net.  

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    ^ That is my biggest concern over everything else, including proposing to the kicking net.  

    And why do you want to marry a kicking net?

  • https://nflspinzone.com/2019/06/12/cleveland-browns-jarvis-landry-move-on-2019/?fbclid=IwAR3wj0GmAElaMoTZIZBpDjjqxJaqiLnDU4FByMK9JVQTNs_4a3_GkzzrRpo

    The Cleveland Browns have been in the position of needing to overpay players to get them to re-sign and one of those players was Jarvis Landry.

    Yes, you read the headline correctly. This upcoming season will be Jarvis Landry’s last year in a Cleveland Browns uniform. Landry was traded to the Browns by the Miami Dolphins for a fourth and a seventh-round pick prior to the 2018 season, and after just his second year with the team, it would not be a shock to see the Browns move on from him prior to the 2020 season.

    The decision to move on from Landry will come down to two major factors: money and production. At this point in his career, the production does not match the money Landry is receiving, and as the Browns now have talent in need of extensions coming up soon, they will need that $15 million back.

    The Browns are now faced with contract years for defensive standouts Joe Schobert and Damarious Randall, and offensive lineman J.C. Tretter, who played all 16 games on a bad ankle. These three players were more vital to the culture change and success in Cleveland last year than Landry, despite not giving a staged speech on Hard Knocks.

    Next year superstar Myles Garrett will be ready to negotiate a new deal, along with his running mate Larry Ogunjobi. Again, two more players on the Browns roster that will need paid and play a larger role in the organization than Landry.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @vambo said:

    The decision to move on from Landry will come down to two major factors: money and production. 

    Wow. That's some hard hitting journalism right there

  • CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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    I sure as hell hope we don’t lose a player like Landry.

  • @d-bone said:

    ^ That is my biggest concern over everything else, including proposing to the kicking net.  

    And why do you want to marry a kicking net?

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    @ibleedbrown said:

    And why do you want to marry a kicking net?

    Catches your balls with no questions asked ?

  • @vambo said:

    The decision to move on from Landry will come down to two major factors: money and production. 

    Wow. That's some hard hitting journalism right there

    NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Wow. That's some hard hitting journalism right there

    In other news, the sky is blue.

  • @d-bone said:

    ^ That is my biggest concern over everything else, including proposing to the kicking net.  

    And why do you want to marry a kicking net?

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
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    @ibleedbrown said:

    And why do you want to marry a kicking net?

    Ummm, I don't - but OBJ did.

    You must have missed that grand spectacle. 

    Freak.jpg

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    And why do you want to marry a kicking net?

    Ummm, I don't - but OBJ did.

    You must have missed that grand spectacle. 

    Freak.jpg

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Ummm, I don't - but OBJ did.

    You must have missed that grand spectacle. 

    Freak.jpg

    I sure did, haha!

  • @orion said:

    His presence made Higgins & Njoku better.

    We'll deal with next year after we see what THIS year deals us.

    Adding in the Underdawg..it's going to be crazy fun to watch  https://www.brownszone.com/2019/06/14/getting-serious-antonio-callaway-buckles-down-expects-huge-second-season/   ? ?

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    Adding in the Underdawg..it's going to be crazy fun to watch  https://www.brownszone.com/2019/06/14/getting-serious-antonio-callaway-buckles-down-expects-huge-second-season/   ? ?

    In the article Calloway says that he's taking it seriously this year.....that he didn't take it seriously last year, but THIS year he is taking it seriously.  -  That's nice of him.  

  • @gumby73 said:

    Adding in the Underdawg..it's going to be crazy fun to watch  https://www.brownszone.com/2019/06/14/getting-serious-antonio-callaway-buckles-down-expects-huge-second-season/   ? ?

    In the article Calloway says that he's taking it seriously this year.....that he didn't take it seriously last year, but THIS year he is taking it seriously.  -  That's nice of him.  

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    .....that he didn't take it seriously last year, but THIS year he is taking it seriously.  -  That's nice of him.  

    Well.. at least he's being honest..1.) Young Gator dubage lungs, failed his drug test, to piss away his nfl combine.. 2.) Hue with Haley hacked the rest of his lungs up in a meaningless NYG preseason game for more dope in his truck.. 3.) Finally, Maybe the smartest guy helping Callaway was Todd Haley? In Hard knocks, Haley told  Jarvis Landry.."That kids got a whole lotta guts & talent..Juice ya gotta take that kid under your wings & help the kid be a star"...4.) Honestly, the first guy Freddie noticed & spoke out about to the media being in camp shape this season  was? Antonio Callaway 🙂..Maybe Landry could not practice, having to chase a Cab Callaway pre-training? Changing his diet, should help his soft tissue injuries that were holding Cab out of Camp last season..am really pulling for the kid, cause so many fail..He's come a long way in 2 years.. Go ?!!  

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    This gets my vote for dumb thread of the year...

  • He's a possession receiver making a ton of money on a team that finally has young talent, young talent that will need to paid big money to remain on the Browns.

    Wouldn't shock me at all if this is Landry's last season with the Browns. 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    He's a possession receiver making a ton of money on a team that finally has young talent, young talent that will need to paid big money to remain on the Browns.

    Wouldn't shock me at all if this is Landry's last season with the Browns. 

    Me either.

    That said, I think Landry brings an important leadership intangible for the younger guys that doesn't get measured in stats, speed, etc.  I mean this in a sense of work ethic as well as seeing him throw blocks or staying with blocks that other WRs don't do.  We can definitely use that for at least 1 more season of this IMO.

    We've seen he doesn't have the jets to blaze by DBs any more than Cris Carter had them.  He's just not as tall as Carter to be that same red zone TD threat (while Carter also had talented WRs like Jake Reed and Randy Moss in the same formation).  What do guys like Landy and Carter show younger WRs?  If you consistently work hard and adjust/finish precise routes  - your QB will still throw to you whether you're covered or not.  These types of veterans are invaluable.  Even if just a coincidence, we had young WRs that improved their games last year like Callaway and Perriman. 

    Understanding we haven't won more than 8 games since Joe Thomas' rookie season of 2007, I'm not in any hurry to get to 2020 with the roster and potential we're looking at in 2019...

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    Here is a great example of a true leader shooting down all the BS the media likes to stir up i.e. Baker vs Duke, Coach vs coach" "It's a non-issue" "Who is your source? Who are you getting all this from?" "We'll be fine"

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    Bless him.

  • Here is a great example of a true leader shooting down all the BS the media likes to stir up i.e. Baker vs Duke, Coach vs coach" "It's a non-issue" "Who is your source? Who are you getting all this from?" "We'll be fine"

    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    Here is a great example of a true leader shooting down all the BS the media likes to stir up i.e. Baker vs Duke, Coach vs coach" "It's a non-issue" "Who is your source? Who are you getting all this from?" "We'll be fine"

    The way Jarvis said "Who's your SOURCE? Where you gettin' this from?" (about the 1:05 mark) is CLASSIC!

    These guys will train this media yet. LMAO

    MIKE

  • @dutch-oven said:

    He's a possession receiver making a ton of money on a team that finally has young talent, young talent that will need to paid big money to remain on the Browns.

    Wouldn't shock me at all if this is Landry's last season with the Browns. 

    Me either.

    That said, I think Landry brings an important leadership intangible for the younger guys that doesn't get measured in stats, speed, etc.  I mean this in a sense of work ethic as well as seeing him throw blocks or staying with blocks that other WRs don't do.  We can definitely use that for at least 1 more season of this IMO.

    We've seen he doesn't have the jets to blaze by DBs any more than Cris Carter had them.  He's just not as tall as Carter to be that same red zone TD threat (while Carter also had talented WRs like Jake Reed and Randy Moss in the same formation).  What do guys like Landy and Carter show younger WRs?  If you consistently work hard and adjust/finish precise routes  - your QB will still throw to you whether you're covered or not.  These types of veterans are invaluable.  Even if just a coincidence, we had young WRs that improved their games last year like Callaway and Perriman. 

    Understanding we haven't won more than 8 games since Joe Thomas' rookie season of 2007, I'm not in any hurry to get to 2020 with the roster and potential we're looking at in 2019...

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    What do guys like Landy and Carter show younger WRs?  If you consistently work hard and adjust/finish precise routes  - your QB will still throw to you whether you're covered or not. 

    My deceased best friend forever was a Vikings fan.  He and I sat in the stands here in New England and watched Chris Carter jog his routes when he wasn't the primary.receiver.  He and I actually understood when Buddy Ryan said, "All he does is catch touchdowns".   -  He gave no effort unless it was all about him.

  • @flugel said:

    What do guys like Landy and Carter show younger WRs?  If you consistently work hard and adjust/finish precise routes  - your QB will still throw to you whether you're covered or not. 

    My deceased best friend forever was a Vikings fan.  He and I sat in the stands here in New England and watched Chris Carter jog his routes when he wasn't the primary.receiver.  He and I actually understood when Buddy Ryan said, "All he does is catch touchdowns".   -  He gave no effort unless it was all about him.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    My deceased best friend forever was a Vikings fan.  He and I sat in the stands here in New England and watched Chris Carter jog his routes when he wasn't the primary.receiver.  He and I actually understood when Buddy Ryan said, "All he does is catch touchdowns".   -  He gave no effort unless it was all about him.

    Wow!  Thanks for sharing that Orion.  Per articles I read and 1 feature story I saw about Carter, I was always only led to believe Ryan cut him for a cocaine problem in spite of the comment "All he does is catch TD passes."  I didn't realize it had way more to do with him not willing to run routes when he wasn't the primary receiver.  However, it does make sense when I look at Ryan's choice of words. Not only that, Carter wasn't a really likable kid when he showed up to the NFL with a feeling of entitlement in a sense of WTF did Buddy owe him at that time?

    A big reason I chose Carter (in his career after Philly) for work ethic was when I read about him getting Randy Moss to work out with him leading up to one of the most insane WR rookie seasons ever. Moss said those workouts were brutal but they paved the way for 17 TD receptions in just 11 starts as an NFL rookie. Carter said he wanted to show him how to be a professional from the get-go. Then again, if there was 1 complaint about Moss it would be what he did when he wasn't the primary WR.  Maybe a lot of the Hall of Fame voters saw what your friend and you saw via their reluctance to vote Carter into the NFL Hall of Fame right away. 

    Long story short with special thanks to my editor Orion, let's just apply my previous statement of "if you work hard and adjust/finish precise routes - your QB will throw to you whether you're covered or not" to Jarvis Landry. 

  • @orion said:

    My deceased best friend forever was a Vikings fan.  He and I sat in the stands here in New England and watched Chris Carter jog his routes when he wasn't the primary.receiver.  He and I actually understood when Buddy Ryan said, "All he does is catch touchdowns".   -  He gave no effort unless it was all about him.

    Wow!  Thanks for sharing that Orion.  Per articles I read and 1 feature story I saw about Carter, I was always only led to believe Ryan cut him for a cocaine problem in spite of the comment "All he does is catch TD passes."  I didn't realize it had way more to do with him not willing to run routes when he wasn't the primary receiver.  However, it does make sense when I look at Ryan's choice of words. Not only that, Carter wasn't a really likable kid when he showed up to the NFL with a feeling of entitlement in a sense of WTF did Buddy owe him at that time?

    A big reason I chose Carter (in his career after Philly) for work ethic was when I read about him getting Randy Moss to work out with him leading up to one of the most insane WR rookie seasons ever. Moss said those workouts were brutal but they paved the way for 17 TD receptions in just 11 starts as an NFL rookie. Carter said he wanted to show him how to be a professional from the get-go. Then again, if there was 1 complaint about Moss it would be what he did when he wasn't the primary WR.  Maybe a lot of the Hall of Fame voters saw what your friend and you saw via their reluctance to vote Carter into the NFL Hall of Fame right away. 

    Long story short with special thanks to my editor Orion, let's just apply my previous statement of "if you work hard and adjust/finish precise routes - your QB will throw to you whether you're covered or not" to Jarvis Landry. 

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    Wow!  Thanks for sharing that Orion.

    Your thinking however was also correct.....but that was AFTER Ryan got rid of him.  Carter DID learn his lesson (supposedly, though I never watched him live again).  He DID become a mentor.

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
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    Calloway had 7 drops last year and that doesn't count the plays he visibly quit on or didn't stick his hands out for.  He is not ready to step into Landry's shoes.. Higgins however may actually have that capability due to his vastly better hands.

    Also, don't kid yourself -- Landry isn't "just" a possession receiver. If he's "just" anything, he's just a good wide receiver.