Another Statistical Look

Lumbergh

@inspecta said:
I didn't realize DA had a rushing TD against Baltimore

HairyNutsackInspecta,

There's a lot of things you don't realize.

There are many parts of this game that you have difficulty trying to grasp.

For instance, when football games kick off, why does BQ stand on the sideline holding a clipboard?

Legacy Fan

@lumbergh said:
There's a lot of things you don't realize.
There are many parts of this game that you have difficulty trying to grasp.

Count me in this group too.

For instance, in a two-minute drill, why does Derek Anderson turn into this guy:

Riffer X

Comparing stats with these two guys right now is pretty stupid but I realize we don't have much else to go on besides premonition and DA suckitude.

daddybull1

JADBF, Savage is gone because he was a terrible GM and his picks didn't work out....

Romeo is gone because he didn't win enough games with the players the GM picked....

Romeo is highly regarded in the NFL circles as a defensive coordinator but was pretty bad as a head coach (does the name Dick LeBeau come to mind???). But saying that Romeo never gets near another NFL team is pretty silly, if you believe that, then you really don't understand football....

Peace

T.Dawg

Greythan

Lum, DA has horrific mobility. He is among the least mobile QB's in the league. Footwork is suspect, limited agility/speed. Its a fact.

His wonderful sack total is due to his getting the ball out quickly. That's usually an asset. However, doesn't mean squat about mobility. Marino didn't get sacked much either and could hardly move. He could, however, hit the short pass in stride and wasn't easily rattled when he was pressured. Two things DA needs to work on.

So, again, you play the board jester with an amazing level of expertise.

I thank you for the entertainment you provide.

Grayfag

Man, you are indeed fixated.

Timugen

@daddybull1 said:
JADBF, Savage is gone because he was a terrible GM and his picks didn't work out....
Romeo is gone because he didn't win enough games with the players the GM picked....

Romeo is highly regarded in the NFL circles as a defensive coordinator but was pretty bad as a head coach (does the name Dick LeBeau come to mind???). But saying that Romeo never gets near another NFL team is pretty silly, if you believe that, then you really don't understand football....

Peace

T.Dawg

Crennelephant's about as sharp as a football (you know, that thing that's oblong, so sometimes it bounces in funny ways,) and doesn't even possess the motivational skills necessary to get Luvbergh to mount DA.

I wouldn't be surprised if his fiasco as HC here turns out to be his swan song.

WPB Dawg Fan

Wow...this sure has made a turn to the off-topic.

All I was trying to do was show that the SUM PRODUCT of BQ's ability to elude the pass rush and take fewer sacks actually translates to a much higher yards per pass play than DA has...and that in turn would likely translate to fewer drives being ended by NEGATIVE pass plays....

anyway...so much for that

Vegasdogg

@wpb-dawg-fan said:
All I was trying to do was show that the SUM PRODUCT of BQ's ability to elude the pass rush and take fewer sacks actually translates to a much higher yards per pass play than DA has

To be fair, Quinn has started 3 games so it is hard to translate the data definitively. Also, didn't Derek take something like 16 sacks in '07?

Pumpkin Eater

@legacy-fan said:
Count me in this group too.
For instance, in a two-minute drill, why does Derek Anderson turn into this guy:

Blue! You're my boy

WPB Dawg Fan

@vegasdogg said:
To be fair, Quinn has started 3 games so it is hard to translate the data definitively. Also, didn't Derek take something like 16 sacks in '07?

yes...but then again BQ didn't play in '07...so you have to at least use the same OL (as Alo pointed out).

Funny thing is...we look at JL and JH and look at the differences in yardage...and despite the difference in number of carries we form an opinion...

Vegasdogg

Here is another interesting comparision:

There is no doubt that Braylon Edwards in particular dropped an awful lot of footballs last year – in fact the highest in the League according to most statistics trackers (remember that dropped passes tend to be less reliable stats compared to other more official NFL figures throughout the season). And of course that had an impact on Derek Anderson losing his job.
But a look at the overall team stats on dropped passes compared to the rest of the League proves an interesting point. It is possible for a quarterback to keep his job and perform well, even into the playoffs, in spite of his receivers dropping a lot of passes.

As of December 2008, the Browns were second highest in the NFL in dropped passes. I bet very few will guess the other three teams in the top 4: Eagles, Broncos and the Colts. McNabb and the Eagles made the NFL Championship Game against the Cards a very close contest. Cutler and the Broncos would have made the playoffs barring that pathetic performance against the Chargers at the end of the season. And Manning and the Colts advanced to the AFC Playoffs Wild Card Game against the Bolts.

LINK

So while many of DA's whiners have cried that the team around him didn't support him, it is interesting to note that of the top 4 teams in the NFL in dropped passes saw two make the playoffs, the other barely miss them, and the remaining one is still looking for a leader. DA is a backup, pure and simple. We'll find out about Quinn sooner than later.