Rumor Hunt was in a bar fight....
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Fer sure, there's lots of things not biblical that some "Catholics" hold by tradition. As one of those- I have a hard time with this specific teaching- among others. Fish on Friday is OK during Lent- but cow\pig isn't. Fish\ lobster\shrimp\octopus\squid is every bit as much protein as land animals. Was that a dispensation for Italian fishermen to make a killing 40 days out of the year?
PS- that whole concept of Purgatory has to do with things called "private revelations" that you can believe- or not, if you want to. Some of them are pretty convincing if you're a believer of those special mystics. The "official" church has never AFAIK taken a stand if it really exists- or not.
I'm sure not going to draw a line with "official" Church teaching- and what that Holy Spirit- tells me as right- I suppose some hard cores would brand me as a heretic. There's still some "traditionalists"who think Vatican II (which gave the green light to say the Mass in languages other than Latin) believe it's the sign of the end times. Never mind this little historical tidbit- way, way back- the Apostles didn't know much Latin- and the initial celebrations were in Aramaic or Greek, not Latin.
I showed up to a thread about Hunt and landed in a debate about Hell.
Here's my beef with the Catholic Church and their religious instructions I wasted way too many years participating in. What part of excommunicating a divorced couple and their young children from the church exemplifies "don't judge others" and "forgiveness of sins"? So, if a spouse is repeatedly unfaithful - the whole family pretty much gets thrown out of the church, judged and unforgiven. That said, an allegedly celibate Priest going Sandusky on little boys hasn't been kicked out of the Catholic Church. He just gets sent to another Catholic Church where he can rinse and repeat the unthinkable (quite often under the same roof where most of the sacraments take place).
I showed up to a thread about Hunt and landed in a debate about Hell.
Here's my beef with the Catholic Church and their religious instructions I wasted way too many years participating in. What part of excommunicating a divorced couple and their young children from the church exemplifies "don't judge others" and "forgiveness of sins"? So, if a spouse is repeatedly unfaithful - the whole family pretty much gets thrown out of the church, judged and unforgiven. That said, an allegedly celibate Priest going Sandusky on little boys hasn't been kicked out of the Catholic Church. He just gets sent to another Catholic Church where he can rinse and repeat the unthinkable (quite often under the same roof where most of the sacraments take place).
I don't think the Catholic Church should come in for any worse criticism than any other Christian denomination. They all have their idiotic traditions and rules and history.
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what the fuvk is going on in here? i had to backpage just to.verify which forum i was in. Umm, this was about kareem hunt right?
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what the fuvk is going on in here? i had to backpage just to.verify which forum i was in. Umm, this was about kareem hunt right?
what the fuvk is going on in here? i had to backpage just to.verify which forum i was in. Umm, this was about kareem hunt right?
Sorry we got way off topic Clevefan. But not much is happening on the football front till the end of the month.
I showed up to a thread about Hunt and landed in a debate about Hell.
Here's my beef with the Catholic Church and their religious instructions I wasted way too many years participating in. What part of excommunicating a divorced couple and their young children from the church exemplifies "don't judge others" and "forgiveness of sins"? So, if a spouse is repeatedly unfaithful - the whole family pretty much gets thrown out of the church, judged and unforgiven. That said, an allegedly celibate Priest going Sandusky on little boys hasn't been kicked out of the Catholic Church. He just gets sent to another Catholic Church where he can rinse and repeat the unthinkable (quite often under the same roof where most of the sacraments take place).
Since I\we are getting comments to keep religion out of it, I'll just sign off that I understand where you're coming from. I'll send you a PM.
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what the fuvk is going on in here? i had to backpage just to.verify which forum i was in. Umm, this was about kareem hunt right?
what the fuvk is going on in here? i had to backpage just to.verify which forum i was in. Umm, this was about kareem hunt right?
Since you think it is torture, that confirms that you are a sinner...and that you have landed in the right place!
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Of course everyone get the pitchforks.. because all of the evidence has not been accrued so to speak.. But I guess you all deem him guilty and want to run him out of town.. Lets gather the facts before we sentence him Kay?
Of course everyone get the pitchforks.. because all of the evidence has not been accrued so to speak.. But I guess you all deem him guilty and want to run him out of town.. Lets gather the facts before we sentence him Kay?
See.....Nickers started it all with this reference to pitchforks!!!
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what the fuvk is going on in here? i had to backpage just to.verify which forum i was in. Umm, this was about kareem hunt right?
Since you think it is torture, that confirms that you are a sinner...and that you have landed in the right place!
Since you think it is torture, that confirms that you are a sinner...and that you have landed in the right place!
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I'm thinking about joining the conversation... But I'm tired and I think it will request a lot of energy. Keep it guys, I'll have some popcorn.
The Catholic Spaniard
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Since you think it is torture, that confirms that you are a sinner...and that you have landed in the right place!
If Jesus suffered from low self-esteem and didn't believe in himself, would he be committing blasphemy?
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Since you think it is torture, that confirms that you are a sinner...and that you have landed in the right place!
And if you're an atheist- why should it matter- he doesn't exist in your mind after all
Jealousy does not necessarily = envy.
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If Jesus suffered from low self-esteem and didn't believe in himself, would he be committing blasphemy?
If Jesus suffered from low self-esteem and didn't believe in himself, would he be committing blasphemy?
It's why the Jewish authorities had him offed. They really had a vendetta against him- according to Jewish law, he should have been stoned. They upped the ante.
Damn- I won't continue on- unless some want me to. Moses (with brass balls) on top of Sinai asked God his name. Yah-wey. "I am". Sorry I can't explain it any better to you. When the soldiers came to arrest Jesus- "Who are you looking for (Jesus)?" "Yah-wey" "I am" same words- and it wasn't exactly an accident. No Jew from that era could possibly have missed what he was saying.
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So did he yell for yah- wey before or after the punch? Hunt is God? Wtf is this thread? Running backs or Saviors?
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If Jesus suffered from low self-esteem and didn't believe in himself, would he be committing blasphemy?
It's why the Jewish authorities had him offed. They really had a vendetta against him- according to Jewish law, he should have been stoned. They upped the ante.
Damn- I won't continue on- unless some want me to. Moses (with brass balls) on top of Sinai asked God his name. Yah-wey. "I am". Sorry I can't explain it any better to you. When the soldiers came to arrest Jesus- "Who are you looking for (Jesus)?" "Yah-wey" "I am" same words- and it wasn't exactly an accident. No Jew from that era could possibly have missed what he was saying.
It's why the Jewish authorities had him offed. They really had a vendetta against him- according to Jewish law, he should have been stoned. They upped the ante.
Damn- I won't continue on- unless some want me to. Moses (with brass balls) on top of Sinai asked God his name.
Interesting stuff - thanks Reverend!
Yeah, brass balls not to be confused with blue balls. Moses had more kids out of wed-lock than Shawn Kemp.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
So did he yell for yah- wey before or after the punch? Hunt is God? Wtf is this thread? Running backs or Saviors?
So did he yell for yah- wey before or after the punch? Hunt is God? Wtf is this thread? Running backs or Saviors?
I hear ya FFD. I came in here posting about the Hunt thing; BUT found myself more interested in where the conversation went than the extended "nothing new to report" about Hunt. That will probably go all the way to Roger Goodfella who ADORES playing Yah-wey with our dumb jocks like Josh Gordon.
The reality this idiot was where he was at the time of night or morning with his current situation means he's never going to get it. We heard the volumes of excuses for Josh Gordon, who's still getting suspended in the NFL's version of Camelot.
I don't remember worrying about Leroy Kelly, Greg Pruitt, and Mike Pruitt making dumb choices like Pac Man Jones any more than I have to worry about Chubb doing that. Isn't that a big reason those guys were/are a lot easier to root for?
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
So did he yell for yah- wey before or after the punch? Hunt is God? Wtf is this thread? Running backs or Saviors?
I hear ya FFD. I came in here posting about the Hunt thing; BUT found myself more interested in where the conversation went than the extended "nothing new to report" about Hunt. That will probably go all the way to Roger Goodfella who ADORES playing Yah-wey with our dumb jocks like Josh Gordon.
The reality this idiot was where he was at the time of night or morning with his current situation means he's never going to get it. We heard the volumes of excuses for Josh Gordon, who's still getting suspended in the NFL's version of Camelot.
I don't remember worrying about Leroy Kelly, Greg Pruitt, and Mike Pruitt making dumb choices like Pac Man Jones any more than I have to worry about Chubb doing that. Isn't that a big reason those guys were/are a lot easier to root for?
I hear ya FFD. I came in here posting about the Hunt thing; BUT found myself more interested in where the conversation went than the extended "nothing new to report" about Hunt. That will probably go all the way to Roger Goodfella who ADORES playing Yah-wey with our dumb jocks like Josh Gordon.
The reality this idiot was where he was at the time of night or morning with his current situation means he's never going to get it. We heard the volumes of excuses for Josh Gordon, who's still getting suspended in the NFL's version of Camelot.
I don't remember worrying about Leroy Kelly, Greg Pruitt, and Mike Pruitt making dumb choices like Pac Man Jones any more than I have to worry about Chubb doing that. Isn't that a big reason those guys were/are a lot easier to root for?
Simple enough. It’s PC to be an idiot now. It wasn’t then.
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So did he yell for yah- wey before or after the punch? Hunt is God? Wtf is this thread? Running backs or Saviors?
I hear ya FFD. I came in here posting about the Hunt thing; BUT found myself more interested in where the conversation went than the extended "nothing new to report" about Hunt. That will probably go all the way to Roger Goodfella who ADORES playing Yah-wey with our dumb jocks like Josh Gordon.
The reality this idiot was where he was at the time of night or morning with his current situation means he's never going to get it. We heard the volumes of excuses for Josh Gordon, who's still getting suspended in the NFL's version of Camelot.
I don't remember worrying about Leroy Kelly, Greg Pruitt, and Mike Pruitt making dumb choices like Pac Man Jones any more than I have to worry about Chubb doing that. Isn't that a big reason those guys were/are a lot easier to root for?
I hear ya FFD. I came in here posting about the Hunt thing; BUT found myself more interested in where the conversation went than the extended "nothing new to report" about Hunt. That will probably go all the way to Roger Goodfella who ADORES playing Yah-wey with our dumb jocks like Josh Gordon.
The reality this idiot was where he was at the time of night or morning with his current situation means he's never going to get it. We heard the volumes of excuses for Josh Gordon, who's still getting suspended in the NFL's version of Camelot.
I don't remember worrying about Leroy Kelly, Greg Pruitt, and Mike Pruitt making dumb choices like Pac Man Jones any more than I have to worry about Chubb doing that. Isn't that a big reason those guys were/are a lot easier to root for?
I suspect that incidents like these happened in the days of Kelly and the Pruitts....its just that you never heard about them. (not that those particular guys were engaged in anything....just some players of their day) Either they were covered up with the acquiescence of the media, or no one cared enough about some minor scuffle to report it.....and their idea of what constituted a "minor scuffle" would be things that to us would be considered quite serious....like spousal abuse.
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It's why the Jewish authorities had him offed. They really had a vendetta against him- according to Jewish law, he should have been stoned. They upped the ante.
Damn- I won't continue on- unless some want me to. Moses (with brass balls) on top of Sinai asked God his name.
Interesting stuff - thanks Reverend!
Yeah, brass balls not to be confused with blue balls. Moses had more kids out of wed-lock than Shawn Kemp.
Interesting stuff - thanks Reverend!
Yeah, brass balls not to be confused with blue balls. Moses had more kids out of wed-lock than Shawn Kemp.
True dat- ditto for some of the other patriarchs.
I suspect that incidents like these happened in the days of Kelly and the Pruitts....its just that you never heard about them. (not that those particular guys were engaged in anything....just some players of their day) Either they were covered up with the acquiescence of the media, or no one cared enough about some minor scuffle to report it.....and their idea of what constituted a "minor scuffle" would be things that to us would be considered quite serious....like spousal abuse.
As our Steeler trolls like to point out- Jim Brown tossed a woman off a balcony, and nothing came of it. Today, you're probably gone for at least a year for that stunt. And back in the day, everyone didn't have a cell phone they could whip out and start taking movies that they could sell to TMZ.
Yeah, Ray Rice would probably still have been playing if you turned the clock back to the 60s when hotels didn't have security cameras planted everywhere.
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I hear ya FFD. I came in here posting about the Hunt thing; BUT found myself more interested in where the conversation went than the extended "nothing new to report" about Hunt. That will probably go all the way to Roger Goodfella who ADORES playing Yah-wey with our dumb jocks like Josh Gordon.
The reality this idiot was where he was at the time of night or morning with his current situation means he's never going to get it. We heard the volumes of excuses for Josh Gordon, who's still getting suspended in the NFL's version of Camelot.
I don't remember worrying about Leroy Kelly, Greg Pruitt, and Mike Pruitt making dumb choices like Pac Man Jones any more than I have to worry about Chubb doing that. Isn't that a big reason those guys were/are a lot easier to root for?
Simple enough. It’s PC to be an idiot now. It wasn’t then.
Simple enough. It’s PC to be an idiot now. It wasn’t then.
Precisely!
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can we pls keep this sht football here? these endless and circuitous discussions permeate the poly board weekly......religious discussions never go anywhere and lead to butthurt feelings usually on the part of people who cant understand why so many peopke are fucking tired of all these ",gods" vying for our atrention.
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can we pls keep this sht football here? these endless and circuitous discussions permeate the poly board weekly......religious discussions never go anywhere and lead to butthurt feelings usually on the part of people who cant understand why so many peopke are fucking tired of all these ",gods" vying for our atrention.
can we pls keep this sht football here? these endless and circuitous discussions permeate the poly board weekly......religious discussions never go anywhere and lead to butthurt feelings usually on the part of people who cant understand why so many peopke are fucking tired of all these ",gods" vying for our atrention.
No. I have posted 2 participatory threads on here the last few days that were both purely about football....and not a single chirp has been made in response to them, so it seems that talking football is not a subject for discussion much on here.....so if we have to talk about heaven and hel/hell.....so be it.
But I do understand about the religion thing. People think that religion should be sacrosanct and that their religious views should never be questioned. I say that a person's religious views are as subject to as much scrutiny as the next thing about them....their political views, their views on football, their views on sex, drugs, and rock n roll, etc. etc. etc.
The reason I don't talk much about that subject is not because I believe they should not be questioned...it is disinterest really....and deference. Anyone CAN have whatever religious views they want. That is fine...and if I felt like questioning or challenging those, I would. Perhaps because I am completely tolerant of whatever anyone believes, I see no reason to "give them hell" over it. I may engage in some factual discussion....like the concept of hell (which while I still maintain is not per se mentioned in the old or new testament...perhaps some concept of an equivalent domain is mentioned...after all, I know that Lucifer was sent to some underworld when he fell out with God).
But hey....the Dudeist in me says: "Go with the flow" "Be Cool" "Take it Easy" about such matters.
And hey...if you want to argue that Dudeism isn't a religion...that it is just something that came out of a movie, I say "Well, that's just like your opinion man". Supposed legitimate religions may have sprung up from not much more than that I would say.
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