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overall im still not a fan, but AOC just nailed our campaign finance laws to the wall..

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  • @clevfan4life said:

    but tgen she whines about how immigrants are treated, told that cbp and homeland dont have the money for 100k immigrants MONTHLY, is shown a bill for 4.5B in aid to help saod migrant condition....yet she still votes agsinst it cause improved migrsnt detention conditions works agsinst her pokitical message

    she's a head scratcher

    Let me help you Cleve...she complains about the problem and then votes against fixing the problem. No need to scratch your head.

    Answer: She wants the issue for political reasons

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Let me help you Cleve...she complains about the problem and then votes against fixing the problem. No need to scratch your head.

    Answer: She wants the issue for political reasons

    She also led the strike to not sell beds for the illegal children.

  • The same million dollar slush fund AOC?

    If so, its kind of like DJT telling people not to grab women by the pussy....like we can have conversations but not this one. 

  • I'm not sure how you could disagree with anything she said there...

  • I'm not sure how you could disagree with anything she said there...

    @mld-woody said:

    I'm not sure how you could disagree with anything she said there...

    Didn't say I did.  I'm saying it's disingenuous coming from her.

  • That wasn't directed at you, just in general

  • @clevfan4life said:

    but tgen she whines about how immigrants are treated, told that cbp and homeland dont have the money for 100k immigrants MONTHLY, is shown a bill for 4.5B in aid to help saod migrant condition....yet she still votes agsinst it cause improved migrsnt detention conditions works agsinst her pokitical message

    she's a head scratcher

    Let me help you Cleve...she complains about the problem and then votes against fixing the problem. No need to scratch your head.

    Answer: She wants the issue for political reasons

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Let me help you Cleve...she complains about the problem and then votes against fixing the problem. No need to scratch your head.

    Answer: She wants the issue for political reasons

    go back and read the last sentence i wrote that YOU  quoted.....

  • but tgen she whines about how immigrants are treated, told that cbp and homeland dont have the money for 100k immigrants MONTHLY, is shown a bill for 4.5B in aid to help saod migrant condition....yet she still votes agsinst it cause improved migrsnt detention conditions works agsinst her pokitical message

    she's a head scratcher

    @clevfan4life said:

    yet she still votes agsinst it cause improved migrsnt detention conditions works agsinst her political message

    ^^^^^^   read mother fuckers read

  • I'm not sure how you could disagree with anything she said there...

    @mld-woody said:

    I'm not sure how you could disagree with anything she said there...

    no u cant. However im super dissapoinred she made it a partisan shot at trump instead of the overall bipartisan run at the system she should hsve taken. And that in the end is prob why ill never fully like her. Cause anybody with a modicum of sense says to themselves "ok super pacs bad when conservatives use them but what about dem super pacs?".....chirp chirp. 

    she would have scored big boner points with me if she had taken a principled run at the whole system.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Let me help you Cleve...she complains about the problem and then votes against fixing the problem. No need to scratch your head.

    Answer: She wants the issue for political reasons

    go back and read the last sentence i wrote that YOU  quoted.....

    @clevfan4life said:

    go back and read the last sentence i wrote that YOU  quoted.....

    I must have missed it not being used to such great spelling...?

    tgen

    saod

    migrsnt

    agsinst 

     pokitical 

  • it's man made global warming.

    it is a crock of crap.

    that is why they had to desperately change the words to "climate change" because

    climate does change.

    so dishonest an emotional knee jerk.

    very molty.

  • So you support officials getting elected through the funding of industry lobbyists, while holding stock in that industry, to then make legislation helping that industry, to then get rich based on the laws they enacted?

    Are you physically incapable of agreeing with something AOC says? Has right wing media trained you that well?

  • So you support officials getting elected through the funding of industry lobbyists, while holding stock in that industry, to then make legislation helping that industry, to then get rich based on the laws they enacted?

    Are you physically incapable of agreeing with something AOC says? Has right wing media trained you that well?

    @mld-woody said:

    So you support officials getting elected through the funding of industry lobbyists, while holding stock in that industry, to then make legislation helping that industry, to then get rich based on the laws they enacted?

    Are you physically incapable of agreeing with something AOC says? Has right wing media trained you that well?

    cal and these guys know full well about this...super pacs funding conservatives is fine, super pacs funding democrats are an assault on our democracy..rinse repeat. There's not an ounce of principle to found anywhere these days evidently. 

  • @vambo said:

    AOC calls Pelosi 'outright disrespectful' for singling out elected 'women of color'

    When all else fails then wait for it....here comes the race card being played. Now the race card is being used against other liberals. Here is the real deal with Pelosi. She has been in politics for a long time and likes to win elections and she knows the ultra liberal views of AOC and some others don't poll very well and could cost them the election in 2020....this has nothing to do with race at all but the race card gets played so much anymore that even someone as liberal as Pelosi gets charged with it.

  • Means little with no action. 

  • It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that they left the hard left and the news media would love this. That means complete control over the election cycle is in the hands of the mainstream media. And I have no doubt their concerns are purely altruistic. When every word of information about every candidate is filtered through there biased prism...

    WSS

  • And frankly I'm every bit as happy with corporations, Healthcare, Pharmaceuticals energy you name it funding campaigns as I am greedy powermadd politicians and newspapers.

    More actually.

    WSS

  • And frankly I'm every bit as happy with corporations, Healthcare, Pharmaceuticals energy you name it funding campaigns as I am greedy powermadd politicians and newspapers.

    More actually.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And frankly I'm every bit as happy with corporations, Healthcare, Pharmaceuticals energy you name it funding campaigns as I am greedy powermadd politicians and newspapers.

    More actually.

    WSS

    I see your point but the problem is the funding comes with strings attached. I saw this gem yesterday where our republican friends have obviously been bought out...I will be interested to see if Trump vetoes it:

    Kevin McCarthy, 140 GOP Reps Vote for Democrat Plan to Outsource Jobs

    GOP legislators (140) voted for a bill drafted by business groups and Democrats which provides a green card giveaway to 300,000 Indian contract workers and dramatically increases the incentives for more Indian graduates to take college graduate jobs in the United States.

    "No House Republican has ever raised as much money in the first half of a year as Republican leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) has thus far in 2019, according to fundraising figures released by his campaign on Wednesday morning."

    And I wonder how much of that money comes from the Chamber of Commerce who are big time donors to the GOP and want the cheap labor?

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/10/kevin-mccarthy-140-gop-reps-vote-for-democrat-plan-to-outsource-jobs-to-indian-graduates/

  • @vambo said:

    AOC calls Pelosi 'outright disrespectful' for singling out elected 'women of color'

    When all else fails then wait for it....here comes the race card being played. Now the race card is being used against other liberals. Here is the real deal with Pelosi. She has been in politics for a long time and likes to win elections and she knows the ultra liberal views of AOC and some others don't poll very well and could cost them the election in 2020....this has nothing to do with race at all but the race card gets played so much anymore that even someone as liberal as Pelosi gets charged with it.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    When all else fails then wait for it....here comes the race card being played. Now the race card is being used against other liberals. Here is the real deal with Pelosi. She has been in politics for a long time and likes to win elections and she knows the ultra liberal views of AOC and some others don't poll very well and could cost them the election in 2020....this has nothing to do with race at all but the race card gets played so much anymore that even someone as liberal as Pelosi gets charged with it.

    Polosi finds herself in the same place she put Trump...Make America White again!...didm't take long for that.