AFC North Position by Postion ranking
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Is it just too early for this kind of analysis
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@gumby73 said:
yes! so many personal changes can happen for to many reasons..some include injury/suspensions/and the mighty dollar ? ,some surprise camp no shows turn into trades .. maybe get to after preseason game 1? Ben will have the peeps pist off again by then
Really? How many real substantive personnell changes do you think really will occur on these teams between now and the start of training camp...or even the regular season? Except for a little shifting and maneuvering as described by Hoorta, I suggest that the actual number of changes to the 88 persons on these 4 teams who start (not including STs) would be able to be counted on one hand. (not including injuries...which sure, can occur...but those cannot be anticipated).
So...go ahead, name those persons out of the list of starters above whose jobs may be on thin ice and may not actually be their teams starter in game 1.
(and BR having his melodrama gene activated once again won't really change that team's lineup at this point...will it?)
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Could Andy Dalton be in trouble as Bengals QB?
I am not sure that Morgan Burnett actually becomes the Browns starting Free Safety
Maybe some changes will be made to Baltimore's WR starters.
But I don't see a lot else, off the top of my head.
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@gumby73 said:
can we at least get to mandatory mini camp? Where is Duke playing?..not here yet. Google up Jalen Ramsey? ya think Coughlin wants to give up more money now or later? Bet Jalen knows.bet the steelers/ravens are ?. Heck, Damarcus Randall is in camp right now and been asking for a new deal for months..What's he do when it's mandatory while others get paid? I took your post as a question..and that's my opinion & yes few may change, but those names don't come real till they come to camp in June..
They are real now. They have played before...and will be playing again when the season starts. How many rookies are on those lists as starters? Some names may change...but as I said...you can probably count them on one hand. So, no, there is no reason to wait until mandatory mini camp. What is that going to do to change a team's depth charts significantly? And Duke is not listed as the Browns starting RB. Chubb is. Would you think that likely to change?
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How is it that now at least two posts, both by gumby have seemed to disappear from this thread?
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How is it that now at least two posts, both by gumby have seemed to disappear from this thread?
How is it that now at least two posts, both by gumby have seemed to disappear from this thread?
I deleted them Gip.. soon after this post.. frankly, i don't have a lot of time on here to play opinion tennis..not this time of year at least..
*So, no, there is no reason to wait until mandatory mini camp*. What is that going to do to change a team's depth charts significantly?
I'll pay your Brownsboard fees.. If you find McCoy a new home in The Land
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How is it that now at least two posts, both by gumby have seemed to disappear from this thread?
I deleted them Gip.. soon after this post.. frankly, i don't have a lot of time on here to play opinion tennis..not this time of year at least..
*So, no, there is no reason to wait until mandatory mini camp*. What is that going to do to change a team's depth charts significantly?
I'll pay your Brownsboard fees.. If you find McCoy a new home in The Land
I deleted them Gip.. soon after this post.. frankly, i don't have a lot of time on here to play opinion tennis..not this time of year at least..
Isn't that the entire point of this forum? I didn't think that you were here just to have someone powder your tush.
I'll pay your Brownsboard fees.. If you find McCoy a new home in The Land
I am not a realtor. But I may have some connections with realtors. (but they would be more in Medina/Summit County)
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I deleted them Gip.. soon after this post.. frankly, i don't have a lot of time on here to play opinion tennis..not this time of year at least..
Isn't that the entire point of this forum? I didn't think that you were here just to have someone powder your tush.
I'll pay your Brownsboard fees.. If you find McCoy a new home in The Land
I am not a realtor. But I may have some connections with realtors. (but they would be more in Medina/Summit County)
I didn't think that you were here just to have someone powder your tush.
where shall i start? ?
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I didn't think that you were here just to have someone powder your tush.
where shall i start? ?
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We are only 10 days away from starting training camp. Perhaps I should have waited until now....or even later to have made this thread, but, nevertheless, hello...I revive it now to see if there is any more commentary about this now that things are going to start to happen. See the OP.
Does anyone know of any actual changes to any team's depth chart that has taken place since May when I originally posted this?
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Here are the players at each position for each team in the AFC North (per Ourlads Depth Charts) . Give your ranking of the best at each position. Start with the Offense:
Quarterback:
Balt. Lamar Jackson......CIn. Andy Dalton......CLE Baker Mayfield .......Pitt. Ben Roethlisberger
Running Back:
Balt. Mark Ingram.....CIN Joe Mixon.....CLE Nick Chubb.....Pitt. James Conner
Tight End:
Balt. Nick Boyle .....CIN Tyler Eifert.....CLE David Njoku.....Pitt. Vance McDonald
WRs (tandems) Balt. Willie Snead/Jordan Lasley.....CIN. AJ Green/Tyler Boyd.....CLE OBJ/Jarvis Landry....Pitt. Juju Smith-Shuster/James Washington
Center:
Balt. Matt Skura.....CIN Billy Price.....CLE JC Tretter.....Pitt. Maurkice Pouncey
Right Guard:
Balt. Marshall Yanda.....CIN Alex Redmond.....CLE. Austin Corbett.....Pitt. David DeCastro
Left Guard:
Balt. Alex Lewis.....CIN Clint Boling.....CLE Joel Bitonio.....Pitt. Ramon Foster
Right Tackle:
Balt. Orlando Brown.....CIN Jonah Williams.....CLE Chris Hubbard.....Pitt Matt Feiler
Left Tackle:
Balt. Ronnie Stanley.....CIN Cordy Glenn.....CLE Greg Robinson.....Pitt. A. Villanueava
Give your rankings.
Left Guard:
....CIN Clint Boling...Out--Retired
Right Tackle:....CIN Jonah Williams..Out Year of 2019..shoulder
Maybe Hue will play OL next in natty
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Left Guard:
....CIN Clint Boling...Out--Retired
Right Tackle:....CIN Jonah Williams..Out Year of 2019..shoulder
Maybe Hue will play OL next in natty
Maybe Hue will play OL next in natty
Uh, yea, sure, that's the ticket.
So, Cincy's entire OL is in flux....so what...They have Andy Dalton!! (did you see that tweet by some Bengals fan who said they had the best QB in the division....because BR was too old and the Browns and Ravens QBs were too young....that they are the only team in the division with a veteran QB in his prime?....did you see that?
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Here are the players at each position for each team in the AFC North (per Ourlads Depth Charts) . Give your ranking of the best at each position. Start with the Offense:
Quarterback:
Balt. Lamar Jackson......CIn. Andy Dalton......CLE Baker Mayfield .......Pitt. Ben Roethlisberger
Running Back:
Balt. Mark Ingram.....CIN Joe Mixon.....CLE Nick Chubb.....Pitt. James Conner
Tight End:
Balt. Nick Boyle .....CIN Tyler Eifert.....CLE David Njoku.....Pitt. Vance McDonald
WRs (tandems) Balt. Willie Snead/Jordan Lasley.....CIN. AJ Green/Tyler Boyd.....CLE OBJ/Jarvis Landry....Pitt. Juju Smith-Shuster/James Washington
Center:
Balt. Matt Skura.....CIN Billy Price.....CLE JC Tretter.....Pitt. Maurkice Pouncey
Right Guard:
Balt. Marshall Yanda.....CIN Alex Redmond.....CLE. Austin Corbett.....Pitt. David DeCastro
Left Guard:
Balt. Alex Lewis.....CIN Clint Boling.....CLE Joel Bitonio.....Pitt. Ramon Foster
Right Tackle:
Balt. Orlando Brown.....CIN Jonah Williams.....CLE Chris Hubbard.....Pitt Matt Feiler
Left Tackle:
Balt. Ronnie Stanley.....CIN Cordy Glenn.....CLE Greg Robinson.....Pitt. A. Villanueava
Give your rankings.
Here are the players at each position for each team in the AFC North (per Ourlads Depth Charts) . Give your ranking of the best at each position. Start with the Offense:
What I heard on the radio the other day were some people talking about who their FIRST TEAM of players at each position in the AFCN. Maybe we could run with that effort. My choice bolded in this color.....tell me if you think I am wrong anywhere.
Quarterback:
Balt. Lamar Jackson......CIn. Andy Dalton......CLE Baker Mayfield .......Pitt. Ben Roethlisberger
Running Back:
Balt. Mark Ingram.....CIN Joe Mixon.....CLE Nick Chubb.....Pitt. James Conner
Tight End:
Balt. Nick Boyle .....CIN Tyler Eifert.....CLE David Njoku.....Pitt. Vance McDonald
WRs (tandems) Balt. Willie Snead/Jordan Lasley.....CIN. AJ Green/Tyler Boyd.....CLE OBJ/Jarvis Landry....Pitt. Juju Smith-Shuster/James Washington
Center:
Balt. Matt Skura.....CIN Billy Price.....CLE JC Tretter.....Pitt. Maurkice Pouncey
Right Guard:
Balt. Marshall Yanda.....CIN Alex Redmond.....CLE. Austin Corbett.....Pitt. David DeCastro
Left Guard:
Balt. Alex Lewis.....CIN Clint Boling.....CLE Joel Bitonio.....Pitt. Ramon Foster
Right Tackle:
Balt. Orlando Brown.....CIN Jonah Williams.....CLE Chris Hubbard.....Pitt Matt Feiler ....I can't make a choice here...help me out
Left Tackle:
Balt. Ronnie Stanley.....CIN Cordy Glenn.....CLE Greg Robinson.....Pitt. A. Villanueava
Give your rankings.
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Now, here are the lineups for the defenses:
Free Safety
Balt. Earl Thomas.....CIN Jessie Bales.....CLE Morgan Burnett.....Pitt. Sean Davis
Strong Safety
Balt. Tony Jefferson.....CIN Shawn Williams.....CLE Damarious Randall.....Pitt Terrell Edmunds
Left CB
Balt. Brandon Carr.....CIN Dre Kirkpatrick.....CLE Denzel Ward.....Pitt. Joe Haden
Right CB
Balt. Malon Humphrey.....CIN William Jackson III.....CLE Terrence Mitchell.....Pitt. Steven Nelson
Inside LB:
Balt. Kenny Young.....CIN Preston Brown.....CLE Joe Schobert.....Pitt Devin Bush/Mark Barron (Pitt runs 3-4)
Left (W)OLB
Balt. Matt Judon.....Cin. Nick Vigil.....CLE Avery Genard.....Pitt. Bud Dupree
Right (S) OLB:
Balt. Shane Ray.....CIN Jordan Evans.....CLE Christian Kirksey.....Pitt. TJ Ward
DT
Balt. Brandon Williams.....CIN Andrew Billings/Geno Atkins.....CLE Larry Ogunjobi/Sheldon Richardson....Pitt. Javon Hargrave
LDE
Balt. Chris Wormley.....CIN Carlos Dunlap.....CLE Myles Garrett....Pitt. Cameron Heyward
RDE
Balt. Michael Pierce.....CIN Jordan Willis.....CLE Oliver Vernon.....Pitt. Stephon Tuitt
Give your rankings
Now, here are the lineups for the defenses:
Free Safety
Balt. Earl Thomas.....CIN Jessie Bales.....CLE Morgan Burnett.....Pitt. Sean Davis Thomas, based on his past
Strong Safety
Balt. Tony Jefferson.....CIN Shawn Williams.....CLE Damarious Randall.....Pitt Terrell Edmunds Jefferson close second
Left CB
Balt. Brandon Carr.....CIN Dre Kirkpatrick.....CLE Denzel Ward.....Pitt. Joe Haden
Right CB
Balt. Malon Humphrey.....CIN William Jackson III.....CLE Terrence Mitchell.....Pitt. Steven Nelson Can't make a choice...help
Inside LB:
Balt. Kenny Young.....CIN Preston Brown.....CLE Joe Schobert.....Pitt Devin Bush/Mark Barron (Pitt runs 3-4)
Left (W)OLB
Balt. Matt Judon.....Cin. Nick Vigil.....CLE Avery Genard.....Pitt. Bud Dupree No Choice...help
Right (S) OLB:
Balt. Shane Ray.....CIN Jordan Evans.....CLE Christian Kirksey.....Pitt. TJ Watt
DT
Balt. Brandon Williams.....CIN Andrew Billings/Geno Atkins.....CLE Larry Ogunjobi/Sheldon Richardson....Pitt. Javon Hargrave
LDE
Balt. Chris Wormley.....CIN Carlos Dunlap.....CLE Myles Garrett....Pitt. Cameron Heyward
RDE
Balt. Michael Pierce.....CIN Jordan Willis.....CLE Oliver Vernon.....Pitt. Stephon Tuitt Again....If I go with Vernon, it seems a homer pick...would that be true?
Give your rankings
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Now, Special Teams:
Kicker
Balt. Justin Tucker.....CIN Randy Bullock.....CLE Greg Joseph.....Pitt. Chris Boswell
Punter
Balt. Sam Koch.....CIN Kevin Huber.....CLE Britton Colquitt.....Pitt. Jordan Berry
Punt Returner
Balt. Cyrus Jones.....CIN Alex Ericson.....CLE Antonio Callaway.....Pitt. Ryan Switzer
Kick Returner
Balt. Chris Moore.....CIN Alex Ericson....CLE Dontrell Hilliard...Pitt. Ryan Switzer
Now, Special Teams:
Kicker
Balt. Justin Tucker.....CIN Randy Bullock.....CLE Greg Joseph.....Pitt. Chris Boswell
Punter
Balt. Sam Koch.....CIN Kevin Huber.....CLE Britton Colquitt.....Pitt. Jordan Berry homer pick?
Punt Returner
Balt. Cyrus Jones.....CIN Alex Ericson.....CLE Antonio Callaway.....Pitt. Ryan Switzer
Kick Returner
Balt. Chris Moore.....CIN Alex Ericson....CLE Dontrell Hilliard...Pitt. Ryan Switzer
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Gip-RCB help will come in the form of our man from LSU, Greedy Williams.
As to primary RB, all 4 of those backs are essentially equal in quality. 4 way tie.
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Gip-RCB help will come in the form of our man from LSU, Greedy Williams.
As to primary RB, all 4 of those backs are essentially equal in quality. 4 way tie.
Gip-RCB help will come in the form of our man from LSU, Greedy Williams.
As to primary RB, all 4 of those backs are essentially equal in quality. 4 way tie.
Are you telling me that right now you put Greedy as the best RCB in this division? I can't make that leap at this point since he has not stepped foot on an NFL field.
On the RBs, I can see that, but I put Chubb at the top because he had more production in fewer attempts than the others. Plus he proved he can be a home run hitter with his 92 yard TD run.
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Gip-RCB help will come in the form of our man from LSU, Greedy Williams.
As to primary RB, all 4 of those backs are essentially equal in quality. 4 way tie.
Are you telling me that right now you put Greedy as the best RCB in this division? I can't make that leap at this point since he has not stepped foot on an NFL field.
On the RBs, I can see that, but I put Chubb at the top because he had more production in fewer attempts than the others. Plus he proved he can be a home run hitter with his 92 yard TD run.
Are you telling me that right now you put Greedy as the best RCB in this division? I can't make that leap at this point since he has not stepped foot on an NFL field.
On the RBs, I can see that, but I put Chubb at the top because he had more production in fewer attempts than the others. Plus he proved he can be a home run hitter with his 92 yard TD run.
Actually I was replacing Mitchell with Greedy to make your decision a bit easier. Odds are that will be the case when the regular season gets underway. Thus the link.
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Are you telling me that right now you put Greedy as the best RCB in this division? I can't make that leap at this point since he has not stepped foot on an NFL field.
On the RBs, I can see that, but I put Chubb at the top because he had more production in fewer attempts than the others. Plus he proved he can be a home run hitter with his 92 yard TD run.
Actually I was replacing Mitchell with Greedy to make your decision a bit easier. Odds are that will be the case when the regular season gets underway. Thus the link.
Actually I was replacing Mitchell with Greedy to make your decision a bit easier. Odds are that will be the case when the regular season gets underway. Thus the link.
But, you did not answer the question: do you believe that with him in there he will be better than any of the other RCB in the division?
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Actually I was replacing Mitchell with Greedy to make your decision a bit easier. Odds are that will be the case when the regular season gets underway. Thus the link.
But, you did not answer the question: do you believe that with him in there he will be better than any of the other RCB in the division?
But, you did not answer the question: do you believe that with him in there he will be better than any of the other RCB in the division?
I won't know until I see him more in pre-season. I do know he is better than anyone else we have to place there based on what I saw at LSU. Will he be as good as Ward was as a rookie? Hopefully the answer will be yes. And if he is that good then yes, he's better than what the other teams have. We shall see. I do know that being a star SEC corner is damn hard and that gives him a leg up going into the pros.
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