How would you like to wake up with this mother fucker crawling on you?

[bigbambo]

@texasag1969 said:

Nope. It is not. If you have paid any attention here you know I'm pretty straitforward and don't make shit up unless I identify it as made up for the fun of it. 

And BTW I didn't have to create fake bone spurs to keep me out of that situation. I just went. Dear Leader is an armchair warrior/coward. End of story.

With much respect for you sucking it up and going where you didn't want to for your country!!!!!!!!

Knowing what you do now...would you go again under the same circumstances? 

Maybe Trumps family circle new of the fucked reasoning and the no good to come from this war.   Was/is Cassius Clay even more deplorable than Trump?  He used his belief.......

But I need to point out again with utmost respect ....you was following crazy leaders then and you're following them now.  Trumps not that dumb...shame on him? 

[calfoxwc]

I guess President Trump has the wrong color of skin - it isn't black, and/or it isn't liberal progressive socialist sombeitch.like corrupt higgardly is.

[Clevfan4life]

@bigbambo said:

With much respect for you sucking it up and going where you didn't want to for your country!!!!!!!!

Knowing what you do now...would you go again under the same circumstances? 

Maybe Trumps family circle new of the fucked reasoning and the no good to come from this war.   Was/is Cassius Clay even more deplorable than Trump?  He used his belief.......

But I need to point out again with utmost respect ....you was following crazy leaders then and you're following them now.  Trumps not that dumb...shame on him? 

"Mohammed Ali" said "aint no vietnamese never call me no N*****"....thsts why he didnt go. He concientiously objected to an immoral war. This was back in the 60's, with how black people were OVERTLY discriminated against back then...thats a dubious call expecting them to go fight a war against other brown people who just wanted to run their country how they saw fit.

[bigbambo]

Quoted from "people asked" page......You are the funny side...correct....

He converted to Islam and became a Muslim after 1961, and eventually took the name Muhammad Ali. He won the world heavyweight championship from Sonny Liston in a major upset at age 22 in 1964. In 1966, Ali refused to be drafted into the military, citing his religious beliefs and opposition to the Vietnam War.

[TexasAg1969]

@bigbambo said:

With much respect for you sucking it up and going where you didn't want to for your country!!!!!!!!

Knowing what you do now...would you go again under the same circumstances? 

Maybe Trumps family circle new of the fucked reasoning and the no good to come from this war.   Was/is Cassius Clay even more deplorable than Trump?  He used his belief.......

But I need to point out again with utmost respect ....you was following crazy leaders then and you're following them now.  Trumps not that dumb...shame on him? 

Due to the Sullivan act I kept my older brother (AF Pilot) from going to Vietnam since he received orders for it while I was there and they changed them when he informed them he had a brother in Vietnam already. So the answer is still yes. And it was not that I didn't want to go. I volunteered to become an Infantry Lt. Do that and you pretty much just asked to be sent to the war. They reinforced that notion the first day in Infantry Officers Basic so we would get it through our heads the war games we were learning there in school from real Vietnam vets would some day save our lives if we paid attention to their hard earned wisdom. They were right. 

And Trump did not earn the right to say he preferred soldiers who weren't captured in reference to John McCain, as if he had any choice after being shot down in N. Vietnam. And McCain actually was disabled by that event,  unlike the bought and paid for bogus bone spurs.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Me and TEx are both Vietnam Veterans and Infantry.  I later went into the Navy and retired.  Although we strongly disagree on politics, he is my brother.

[calfoxwc]

Canton Mike was also infantry in Vietnam. So was Uncle Si. Seriously.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_Robertson

I wish I knew how many places my ccw instructor has been in battle.

[bigbambo]

@texasag1969 said:

Due to the Sullivan act I kept my older brother (AF Pilot) from going to Vietnam since he received orders for it while I was there and they changed them when he informed them he had a brother in Vietnam already. So the answer is still yes. And it was not that I didn't want to go. I volunteered to become an Infantry Lt. Do that and you pretty much just asked to be sent to the war. They reinforced that notion the first day in Infantry Officers Basic so we would get it through our heads the war games we were learning there in school from real Vietnam vets would some day save our lives if we paid attention to their hard earned wisdom. They were right. 

I was 11 in 1970 and not sure it it was the mind of a child or feeling that I just didn't want to die but I found myself thinking how my father would disown me if I scrammed to the ~A~ country.  What to do....not a lot of freed minds during the war.   You are brave indeed!

And Trump did not earn the right to say he preferred soldiers who weren't captured in reference to John McCain, as if he had any choice after being shot down in N. Vietnam. And McCain actually was disabled by that event,  unlike the bought and paid for bogus bone spurs.

Trump was wrong for that statement but I feel he's trying and that can make up for some disagreement in venting.  He is crying for some positive media that would bring out the true American dream.....and its not always easy!

[hammertime]

Service doesn’t give you a license to be stupid, ignorant and lazy.

not you Diehard but the Texas trans.

[calfoxwc]

@hammertime said:

Service doesn’t give you a license to be stupid, ignorant and lazy.

not you Diehard but the Texas trans.

and he never explains WHY he says stupid things again and again and again and ....etc.

He feels great emotionally, but it's nonsense. Surely he has some kind of idea it is.

[OldBrownsFan]

Viet Nam veterans are some special people to me. Before my brother died he introduced me to many of his veteran friends and all I can say is they were some great people. I remember one in particular who had a garage filled with bottled water. When I asked him about it he told me he had been in the jungle in Viet Nam once without water and he had gotten so thirsty he was licking the dew off of trees and had made a vow he would never again allow himself to be so thirsty. I know my brother was also called a baby killer which was a common thing for Viet nam veterans to hear when they returned home. In that respect our country has done a lot better to honor veterans today except for the left wing loons who will always hate the military.

[Chemist]

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Me and TEx are both Vietnam Veterans and Infantry.  I later went into the Navy and retired.  Although we strongly disagree on politics, he is my brother.

A huge thank you to the both of you. 

[hammertime]

To the common person you’ve got to realize how unbelievably left the Democratic Party has gone.

Even stuff that was debatable is now stuff that gets you labeled as a racist.....

its really not even worth talking to folks who are so triggered that rational conversation is impossible.

The far left way overestimated there support and have destroyed what I once considered my affiliation.....once the Democrats lose the unions it’s just a formality.

[TexasAg1969]

@calfoxwc said:

and he never explains WHY he says stupid things again and again and again and ....etc.

He feels great emotionally, but it's nonsense. Surely he has some kind of idea it is.

Talking to your reflection in the mirror again I see. LOL!??

@bigbambo said:

You are brave indeed!

You have me confused with people I ran into over there. I stayed scared but alive because of great training from real heroes an pure luck. My college roommate who died last month was not only an infantry platoon leader in Vietnam, but had to run the ops to recover over 900 bodies of men, women and children from the Jonestown, Guyana massacre. He paid an extremely high price with complicated PTSD and alcoholism until about 2012 when he got help for both and eventually did a lot of volunteer work with veterans in the same condition. That is a hero to me.

[TexasAg1969]

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Me and TEx are both Vietnam Veterans and Infantry.  I later went into the Navy and retired.  Although we strongly disagree on politics, he is my brother.

Yes we are my friend, even if I give you shit from time to time and vice versa, just like my Special Forces buddy I play racquetball with. We are even harder on each other because we see each other several days a week and we both know a lot of details of what we have been through. So we give each other a ton of leeway when dishing out or taking shit from one another. Funny I can do that with him, but not my far right of John Birch brother. He comes unglued and gets incoherently angry. So we made a pact to not talk politics. I figure it's better than watching him stroke out. He makes some of the worst deep state paranoids here look like soft commies.?