39 Years
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The maximum period of "torture" for anyone can only be 45 years, as that is how long it has been since the Browns....or any Cleveland major league team has won a title. (I don't count indoor soccer as major league).
And yes, I have lived long enough to endure the full 45 years.
I recall the 1964 NFL title game. It was blacked out here because it was a home game. (All home games...sold out or not were blacked out then). It was replayed the following Monday Night. It got such good ratings that the NFL got it in their heads that Monday night might not be a bad time to broadcast a football game. 5-6 years later that became a reality.
The maximum period of "torture" for anyone can only be 45 years, as that is how long it has been since the Browns....or any Cleveland major league team has won a title. (I don't count indoor soccer as major league).
And yes, I have lived long enough to endure the full 45 years.
I recall the 1964 NFL title game. It was blacked out here because it was a home game. (All home games...sold out or not were blacked out then). It was replayed the following Monday Night. It got such good ratings that the NFL got it in their heads that Monday night might not be a bad time to broadcast a football game. 5-6 years later that became a reality.
It has never been torture for me....
Indeed, it was blacked out...I had grandparents in Toledo...I drove there to watch the game.
And it was televised in Cleveland...maybe a few nights later, shown in entirety. May have been a expanded version of Ken Colemans, QB Club.
Was that on Tuesday or Wednesday?? Can't remember.
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The maximum period of "torture" for anyone can only be 45 years, as that is how long it has been since the Browns....or any Cleveland major league team has won a title. (I don't count indoor soccer as major league).
And yes, I have lived long enough to endure the full 45 years.
I recall the 1964 NFL title game. It was blacked out here because it was a home game. (All home games...sold out or not were blacked out then). It was replayed the following Monday Night. It got such good ratings that the NFL got it in their heads that Monday night might not be a bad time to broadcast a football game. 5-6 years later that became a reality.
It has never been torture for me....
Indeed, it was blacked out...I had grandparents in Toledo...I drove there to watch the game.
And it was televised in Cleveland...maybe a few nights later, shown in entirety. May have been a expanded version of Ken Colemans, QB Club.
Was that on Tuesday or Wednesday?? Can't remember.
It has never been torture for me....
Indeed, it was blacked out...I had grandparents in Toledo...I drove there to watch the game.
And it was televised in Cleveland...maybe a few nights later, shown in entirety. May have been a expanded version of Ken Colemans, QB Club.
Was that on Tuesday or Wednesday?? Can't remember.
Yeah, it was rebroadcast on the Quarterback Club, and why I didn't watch it is beyond me- it was Christmas break at school. Unbelievable that no one at CBS or a local TV station ever saved a tape of that game.
And I'm positive the game did not sell out. The father and brother of the guy I have my season tickets with did go to the game, and I have to believe their first hand report as accurate.
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No question it didn't sell out. That is why it was blacked out.
You could stick 82,000 in that place and there would always seems to be a few tickets that couldn't sell. There were a few seats right behind a pole nobody wanted, and I have a feeling Model always had a few folding chairs he could set up somewhere just to prevent the place from selling out. I think he viewed blackouts as a way to drive ticket sales.
I am not sure how it got in the 70's and beyond, but I know in the 60's, the only games you watched were road games. The others were games you went to see, or listened to on the radio.
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I'm probably in the minority here, but I can remember the exact day I became a Browns fan. I came to it kind of late, but the first football game I ever watched was the wildcard game with the Oilers (December 24, 1988)--I was ten at the time--and I was hooked immediately. I still remember shouting at the T.V. about the forward lateral play, then looking at my dad and saying something along the lines of, "I should be mad about that, right?" He took me to my first game the next year--a loss to the Steelers--and the Browns have been breaking my heart ever since.
Dennis
I'm probably in the minority here, but I can remember the exact day I became a Browns fan. I came to it kind of late, but the first football game I ever watched was the wildcard game with the Oilers (December 24, 1988)--I was ten at the time--and I was hooked immediately. I still remember shouting at the T.V. about the forward lateral play, then looking at my dad and saying something along the lines of, "I should be mad about that, right?" He took me to my first game the next year--a loss to the Steelers--and the Browns have been breaking my heart ever since.
Dennis
Ha! I was at that game! The only Browns game I ever attended, 11 years old. I honestly don't remember it much, I think because my brain froze.
I would say my seminal Browns moment was the Jets game where Bernie led us back. I actually DO remember watching that one and crying when I was CERTAIN we were going to lose and then being ELATED when we came back.
Man. I don't feel passion like that for sports anymore. To be a kid again...
Guess I'll just have to get my son hooked and live it with him.
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No question it didn't sell out. That is why it was blacked out.
You could stick 82,000 in that place and there would always seems to be a few tickets that couldn't sell. There were a few seats right behind a pole nobody wanted, and I have a feeling Model always had a few folding chairs he could set up somewhere just to prevent the place from selling out. I think he viewed blackouts as a way to drive ticket sales.
I am not sure how it got in the 70's and beyond, but I know in the 60's, the only games you watched were road games. The others were games you went to see, or listened to on the radio.
No question it didn't sell out. That is why it was blacked out.
You could stick 82,000 in that place and there would always seems to be a few tickets that couldn't sell. There were a few seats right behind a pole nobody wanted, and I have a feeling Model always had a few folding chairs he could set up somewhere just to prevent the place from selling out. I think he viewed blackouts as a way to drive ticket sales.
I am not sure how it got in the 70's and beyond, but I know in the 60's, the only games you watched were road games. The others were games you went to see, or listened to on the radio.
There was a reason those games didn't sell out. Those who were never at the old Stadium have no idea just how bad some of those seats were. Seats so close behind poles 40% of the field was obstructed. If you were in the last row of the lower deck, lotsa luck as soon as a ball got kicked, it disappeared, because the upper deck obstructed it- and when Art added those "Luxury" boxes, it got even worse. My claim to Browns history is I was at the first ever Monday Night game- and I got to see about 20% of it. I was in the first couple of rows right behind the dugouts. There was a reason no one wanted to sit there, they were always the last to sell out. They were so darn low, and so far away from the field-past the near 20 yard line you couldn't see a darn thing. Ditto sitting up in the last row of the upper deck- the players looked like ants.
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No kidding..I went to more than a couple where you were constantly having to lean 2 feet one way or the other about half the game if you wanted a chance to see the action.
Even the uppers in the pound end had obstructed views from more than about 5-6 rows up...you couldn't see the corner of the endzone...and yeah....the other end...lol...one game I had front row uppers...right behind home plate...great baseball seats....but for football, not so good...the action seemed to be a mile away.
The people who said Muni was good enough or could have been remodeled must have never been to a football game there.
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Back in the 70's, Euclid Ohio had cable and you could catch Brown's games south of the shoreway. I used to go to The Plaza (PLAZOO) a salt & pepper beer joint. Elbow to elbow good times. Earl's got to dead by now. Anybody been there?
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Back in the 70's, Euclid Ohio had cable and you could catch Brown's games south of the shoreway. I used to go to The Plaza (PLAZOO) a salt & pepper beer joint. Elbow to elbow good times. Earl's got to dead by now. Anybody been there?
Back in the 70's, Euclid Ohio had cable and you could catch Brown's games south of the shoreway. I used to go to The Plaza (PLAZOO) a salt & pepper beer joint. Elbow to elbow good times. Earl's got to dead by now. Anybody been there?
I live in Euclid, where is this?
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Ahhh. October 26th 1980. It was one of my first vivid memories. Brian Sipe rallies the Kardiac Kids from a 26-14 4th quarter deficit over the Steelers. The Browns mean family to me. 100 people crammed into one house cheering. It's so closely associated being with family.
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Back in the 70's, Euclid Ohio had cable and you could catch Brown's games south of the shoreway. I used to go to The Plaza (PLAZOO) a salt & pepper beer joint. Elbow to elbow good times. Earl's got to dead by now. Anybody been there?
I live in Euclid, where is this?
I live in Euclid, where is this?
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I don't think it's a bar anymore. It burnt down and reopened as The Plaza. It's on the northside of Euclid Ave., in a strip west of 260th.
It was an amazing place. Race relations weren't all that great in the early 70's. It was about a 50/50 black/white heavy drinking crowd
and I never saw even a minor altercation.
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