El Paso shooter pic here we go again
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The problem I have with this is (label intended to divide) terrorism. Does terrorism not effectively enough convey terrorism?
In an ideal world, it should. And it should be like that, regardless of where these shooters fall on the political spectrum.
However, it hasn't played out that way here on the board (which is also a microcosm for our country at large). Every time Antifa committed violence, it was labeled as leftie/left-wing/liberal/libtard, etc, violence by right-wing posters on here. Or, blame was placed on Obama or another left-leaning politician, and none of the right-wingers on here had a problem calling it that.
But, now that the ones pulling the trigger are politically to the right, now all of a sudden it's taboo to say that political rhetoric is fueling violence and that people take exception to it being called right wing violence (not including you Cysko; as far as I know, you haven't claimed such of others in the past). The hypocrisy by many of the more conservative members of this board on this subject is frankly disgusting and pretty cowardly.
The hypocrisy by many of the more conservative members of this board on this subject is frankly disgusting and pretty cowardly.
Speaking of hypocrisy, would you care to throw down your 2 pennies on the 293 people murdered in Chicago in 2019 so far?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
Comment? Now it doesn't matter anymore. Now he's a crazy person again.
And yes Cleve by the way it is more egregious if an illegal immigrant rapes and murders someone.
WSS
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The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
Read his manifesto yourself.
Don't just gleefully except whatever the right wing media shoves down your throat. For once.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
Read his manifesto yourself.
Don't just gleefully except whatever the right wing media shoves down your throat. For once.
Read his manifesto yourself.
Don't just gleefully except whatever the right wing media shoves down your throat. For once.
omg he expressed support for universal income omgomg tits up everyone we can deflect this back onto the liberals ohh what an auspicious day!!!!!
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The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
Read his manifesto yourself.
Don't just gleefully except whatever the right wing media shoves down your throat. For once.
Read his manifesto yourself.
Don't just gleefully except whatever the right wing media shoves down your throat. For once.
The article I posted was from the manifesto. Instead of just shooting the messenger let me know where the article is wrong?
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Speaking of hypocrisy, would you care to throw down your 2 pennies on the 293 people murdered in Chicago in 2019 so far?
over how msny instances were those 293 people murdered? oh and were tbey just random shootings? did one black guy shoot another black guy cause they thought he was too.light skinned? or were these directed gang/drug related hits?
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Read his manifesto yourself.
Don't just gleefully except whatever the right wing media shoves down your throat. For once.
omg he expressed support for universal income omgomg tits up everyone we can deflect this back onto the liberals ohh what an auspicious day!!!!!
omg he expressed support for universal income omgomg tits up everyone we can deflect this back onto the liberals ohh what an auspicious day!!!!!
Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”
Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..
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In an ideal world, it should. And it should be like that, regardless of where these shooters fall on the political spectrum.
However, it hasn't played out that way here on the board (which is also a microcosm for our country at large). Every time Antifa committed violence, it was labeled as leftie/left-wing/liberal/libtard, etc, violence by right-wing posters on here. Or, blame was placed on Obama or another left-leaning politician, and none of the right-wingers on here had a problem calling it that.
But, now that the ones pulling the trigger are politically to the right, now all of a sudden it's taboo to say that political rhetoric is fueling violence and that people take exception to it being called right wing violence (not including you Cysko; as far as I know, you haven't claimed such of others in the past). The hypocrisy by many of the more conservative members of this board on this subject is frankly disgusting and pretty cowardly.
I just that if you insist on pointing fingers every time something happens it becomes a roadblock to any genuine solution. It becomes an exercise in blaming people who aren't actually responsible for actions perpetrated by people they share some similarities with. I do believe that very thing more than any other has fueled the "white supremacist" problem that's currently a thing. When it's in vogue to tell one group of people that they're purely awful and responsible for all the evils of the world sooner or later they're going to start acting the part.
I just that if you insist on pointing fingers every time something happens it becomes a roadblock to any genuine solution. It becomes an exercise in blaming people who aren't actually responsible for actions perpetrated by people they share some similarities with. I do believe that very thing more than any other has fueled the "white supremacist" problem that's currently a thing. When it's in vogue to tell one group of people that they're purely awful and responsible for all the evils of the world sooner or later they're going to start acting the part.
Idk man, that's getting awfully close towards "poor white males" getting the victim card. This terrorist.
I just have a hard time sympathizing with any white male that thinks they're being discriminated against or something. We never get held responsible for the actions of an individual. Not really at least. Just some Twitter folks. A lot of minorities though actually deal with that shit all of the time.
And before the obvious gets brought up I don't think that's the same as the radicalization of those in the middle East.
Pointing fingers is a roadblock, for sure. But you need to figure out root causes. Ask why. Etc.
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The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
well i guess we now know who's alt gorka is.
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omg he expressed support for universal income omgomg tits up everyone we can deflect this back onto the liberals ohh what an auspicious day!!!!!
Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”
Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..
Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”
Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..
listen dooshbag its the demonization of immigrants fueled by "u know who" thats the root issue here and why trump is taking tge hit for it. His manifesto is dripping with anti immigrant hatred.
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Read his manifesto yourself.
Don't just gleefully except whatever the right wing media shoves down your throat. For once.
The article I posted was from the manifesto. Instead of just shooting the messenger let me know where the article is wrong?
The article I posted was from the manifesto. Instead of just shooting the messenger let me know where the article is wrong?
All you ever are is a messenger. Just pasting articles here.
That guy saw UBI and then claimed with certainty he's a progressive leftist. Just so people like you could find this article and post it in places like this as fact.
The entire heart of that guys manifesto is anti immigration. Everything else stems from it. It's pretty fucking clear.
Again, read it yourself
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Speaking of hypocrisy, would you care to throw down your 2 pennies on the 293 people murdered in Chicago in 2019 so far?
This is great because this board is already trying to do that....
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Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”
Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..
listen dooshbag its the demonization of immigrants fueled by "u know who" thats the root issue here and why trump is taking tge hit for it. His manifesto is dripping with anti immigrant hatred.
listen dooshbag its the demonization of immigrants fueled by "u know who" thats the root issue here and why trump is taking tge hit for it. His manifesto is dripping with anti immigrant hatred.
The New York Times even deliberately misattributed some of his words to certain causes. As the article says, “The manifesto that may be linked to [him] described an imminent attack and railed against immigrants, saying, ‘if we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can be more sustainable.'” However, that particular line about “getting rid of enough people” was not in reference to immigration; it was in reference to global warming, as he wrote right before that sentence that “the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources.”
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I have heard rhetoric like this before..oh yeah Cleve on the BB
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The article I posted was from the manifesto. Instead of just shooting the messenger let me know where the article is wrong?
All you ever are is a messenger. Just pasting articles here.
That guy saw UBI and then claimed with certainty he's a progressive leftist. Just so people like you could find this article and post it in places like this as fact.
The entire heart of that guys manifesto is anti immigration. Everything else stems from it. It's pretty fucking clear.
Again, read it yourself
All you ever are is a messenger. Just pasting articles here.
That guy saw UBI and then claimed with certainty he's a progressive leftist. Just so people like you could find this article and post it in places like this as fact.
The entire heart of that guys manifesto is anti immigration. Everything else stems from it. It's pretty fucking clear.
Again, read it yourself
Baloney because it makes me no difference to me personally what his motivation was. You are the one who will not listen to anything other than the narrative the MSM is spoon feeding you.
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The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”
Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..
"Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."
Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
All you ever are is a messenger. Just pasting articles here.
That guy saw UBI and then claimed with certainty he's a progressive leftist. Just so people like you could find this article and post it in places like this as fact.
The entire heart of that guys manifesto is anti immigration. Everything else stems from it. It's pretty fucking clear.
Again, read it yourself
Baloney because it makes me no difference to me personally what his motivation was. You are the one who will not listen to anything other than the narrative the MSM is spoon feeding you.
Baloney because it makes me no difference to me personally what his motivation was. You are the one who will not listen to anything other than the narrative the MSM is spoon feeding you.
I READ HIS MANIFESTO MYSELF
I DETERMINED MY OWN CONCLUSIONS
I haven't consumed any "MSM" (read: news that says something you don't like) coverage on this.
You can't just blindly through that insult back at me when it has no fucking basis in reality.
Again, read the damn thing yourself and see if you can develop your own opinion on one single thing for once in your life
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The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”
Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..
"Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."
Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.
"Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."
Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.
From the article I posted it states the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language..sounds like more honest journalism than you get from the MSM to me.. sounds like just stating facts and not sugar coating anything ..as usual there are always two sides to a story
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"Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."
Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.
From the article I posted it states the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language..sounds like more honest journalism than you get from the MSM to me.. sounds like just stating facts and not sugar coating anything ..as usual there are always two sides to a story
From the article I posted it states the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language..sounds like more honest journalism than you get from the MSM to me.. sounds like just stating facts and not sugar coating anything ..as usual there are always two sides to a story
And you're the one accusing Woody of being spoonfed a narrative? I don't know if you're oblivious or just a hack at this point...
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From the article I posted it states the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language..sounds like more honest journalism than you get from the MSM to me.. sounds like just stating facts and not sugar coating anything ..as usual there are always two sides to a story
And you're the one accusing Woody of being spoonfed a narrative? I don't know if you're oblivious or just a hack at this point...
And you're the one accusing Woody of being spoonfed a narrative? I don't know if you're oblivious or just a hack at this point...
The article I posted gives both sides something missing from the MSM most of the time. Unless you don't think a person can be a progressive leftist and a racist at the same time. This killer shows you can be both actually.
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The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist
Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”
Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..
"Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."
Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.
Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.
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