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  • @tiamat63 said:

    In order of embarrassment

    - Didn't vote for Obama

    - Everybody wants to rule the world (as the song goes)

    - Yes, Congress is very much to blame but I see zero sign of reason from any sitting President the past 30 years to make smart changes.  They simply pile on and pile on.

    - You still fail to grasp any Amendment violations that I've highlighted previously such as the 4th, 5th and 14th as evidenced by either your non-responses or poorly constructed/thoughtout responses.   Spare me your bullshit "understanding" of the nuances of Constitutionality that you so greatly pretend to be an expert on. 

    - Did you know my football threads with my original ideas and content, by last check, were viewed at a rate 4x that of your own?

    ....  Put me back on ignore, old man. 

    - Did you know my football threads with my original ideas and content, by last check, were viewed at a rate 4x that of your own?

    But who is counting right...?

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    - Did you know my football threads with my original ideas and content, by last check, were viewed at a rate 4x that of your own?

    But who is counting right...?

    If he wants to bring it up, he can get hit with it.  Pretty simple.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    On pro life he is the most pro life president since Roe and there is no question about that. Moving our embassy to Jerusalem is not anything Obama or any liberal democrat would have done. One of those articles I posted was from Mike Lee whose conservative credential are unquestioned yet he considers Trump to be conservative. Mark Levin also is one whom nobody doubts his conservative credentials and he says Trump is the most conservative president since Reagan. That is some high praise from Levin.

    Trump I believe is a populist and conservative and that is how he has governed. 

    Honestly, you have this on copy and paste.  You've posted this at least half dozen times.

    Pro life is a convenience for Trump.  He doesn't believe in it anymore than many others - it's just what he has to accept to pander your vote.   Yes, your one issue voting.  

    Moving the embassy isn't "conservative".  It's Religious GOP pandering yet again.  The man could give two shits either way.     The modern GOP is anything but conservative.  

    Mike Lee is a hack.  Also has two first names.

    Mark Levin is pretty much the same, but at least has the name working for him.

    Classic conservatism mainstream died before Reagan got into office.  Now those people (such as myself) have the tough task of asking what label to aptly apply to ourselves.  Independent? Libertarian? Citizens Party? IAP? (minus the religious dogma) Whig Party? (maybe)

    You're going to have to google those, friend.  I doubt your readings and quest for expanding political horizons has taken you that far.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Honestly, you have this on copy and paste.  You've posted this at least half dozen times.

    Pro life is a convenience for Trump.  He doesn't believe in it anymore than many others - it's just what he has to accept to pander your vote.   Yes, your one issue voting.  

    Moving the embassy isn't "conservative".  It's Religious GOP pandering yet again.  The man could give two shits either way.     The modern GOP is anything but conservative.  

    Mike Lee is a hack.  Also has two first names.

    Mark Levin is pretty much the same, but at least has the name working for him.

    Classic conservatism mainstream died before Reagan got into office.  Now those people (such as myself) have the tough task of asking what label to aptly apply to ourselves.  Independent? Libertarian? Citizens Party? IAP? (minus the religious dogma) Whig Party? (maybe)

    You're going to have to google those, friend.  I doubt your readings and quest for expanding political horizons has taken you that far.

    You could make the point what any president does is pandering could you not?

    And I guess you are the last of the Mohicans as far as real conservatives go..?

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    On pro life he is the most pro life president since Roe and there is no question about that. Moving our embassy to Jerusalem is not anything Obama or any liberal democrat would have done. One of those articles I posted was from Mike Lee whose conservative credential are unquestioned yet he considers Trump to be conservative. Mark Levin also is one whom nobody doubts his conservative credentials and he says Trump is the most conservative president since Reagan. That is some high praise from Levin.

    Trump I believe is a populist and conservative and that is how he has governed. 

    Honestly, you have this on copy and paste.  You've posted this at least half dozen times.

    Pro life is a convenience for Trump.  He doesn't believe in it anymore than many others - it's just what he has to accept to pander your vote.   Yes, your one issue voting.  

    Moving the embassy isn't "conservative".  It's Religious GOP pandering yet again.  The man could give two shits either way.     The modern GOP is anything but conservative.  

    Mike Lee is a hack.  Also has two first names.

    Mark Levin is pretty much the same, but at least has the name working for him.

    Classic conservatism mainstream died before Reagan got into office.  Now those people (such as myself) have the tough task of asking what label to aptly apply to ourselves.  Independent? Libertarian? Citizens Party? IAP? (minus the religious dogma) Whig Party? (maybe)

    You're going to have to google those, friend.  I doubt your readings and quest for expanding political horizons has taken you that far.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Yes, your one issue voting.  

    'you're" is the contraction for "you are".

    "your" is possessive.

    and, Tiam, "Mark Levin is a hack" ??????

    that is just emotionally knee jerk stupidass.

    Mark Levin
    American lawyer

    Description

    Mark Reed Levin is an American lawyer, author, and radio personality. He is the host of syndicated radio show The Mark Levin Show, as well as Life, Liberty & Levin on Fox News. Levin worked in the administration of President Ronald Reagan and was a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese. Wikipedia
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  • @tiamat63 said:

    Yes, your one issue voting.  

    'you're" is the contraction for "you are".

    "your" is possessive.

    and, Tiam, "Mark Levin is a hack" ??????

    that is just emotionally knee jerk stupidass.

    Mark Levin
    American lawyer

    Description

    Mark Reed Levin is an American lawyer, author, and radio personality. He is the host of syndicated radio show The Mark Levin Show, as well as Life, Liberty & Levin on Fox News. Levin worked in the administration of President Ronald Reagan and was a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese. Wikipedia

    @calfoxwc said:

    'you're" is the contraction for "you are".

    "your" is possessive.

    and, Tiam, "Mark Levin is a hack" ??????

    that is just emotionally knee jerk stupidass.

    Mark Levin
    American lawyer

    Description

    Mark Reed Levin is an American lawyer, author, and radio personality. He is the host of syndicated radio show The Mark Levin Show, as well as Life, Liberty & Levin on Fox News. Levin worked in the administration of President Ronald Reagan and was a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese. Wikipedia

    Not good enough credentials for tiam. Reagan was only a poser...

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Honestly, you have this on copy and paste.  You've posted this at least half dozen times.

    Pro life is a convenience for Trump.  He doesn't believe in it anymore than many others - it's just what he has to accept to pander your vote.   Yes, your one issue voting.  

    Moving the embassy isn't "conservative".  It's Religious GOP pandering yet again.  The man could give two shits either way.     The modern GOP is anything but conservative.  

    Mike Lee is a hack.  Also has two first names.

    Mark Levin is pretty much the same, but at least has the name working for him.

    Classic conservatism mainstream died before Reagan got into office.  Now those people (such as myself) have the tough task of asking what label to aptly apply to ourselves.  Independent? Libertarian? Citizens Party? IAP? (minus the religious dogma) Whig Party? (maybe)

    You're going to have to google those, friend.  I doubt your readings and quest for expanding political horizons has taken you that far.

    You could make the point what any president does is pandering could you not?

    And I guess you are the last of the Mohicans as far as real conservatives go..?

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    You could make the point what any president does is pandering could you not?

    And I guess you are the last of the Mohicans as far as real conservatives go..?

    I guess that is fair in a sense.    However most politicians don't go from NYC liberal to, as you and apparently the authors you have cited as the "most conservative President since Reagan" in the span of a Pre-election cycle.    The man, with his tweets as evidence, was eyeing this path for some time now.   Poking and prodding on whom to win over.   He saw an opportunity with the GOP and their identity politics and ran with it. 

    I'd have more respect for the guy if he had held some of these ideals before he had his eyes set on office.    Not to say that people can't change their minds in certain regards, but to such an extent?    Well, posters here like to cite and make fun of  Hillary for supporting "real marriage" once upon a time.  Now she's fine with gay marriage for quite a long while.     Door goes both ways.  But at least that biotch was making a 180 well before she considered holding high office (for the most part)

  • @calfoxwc said:

    'you're" is the contraction for "you are".

    "your" is possessive.

    and, Tiam, "Mark Levin is a hack" ??????

    that is just emotionally knee jerk stupidass.

    Mark Levin
    American lawyer

    Description

    Mark Reed Levin is an American lawyer, author, and radio personality. He is the host of syndicated radio show The Mark Levin Show, as well as Life, Liberty & Levin on Fox News. Levin worked in the administration of President Ronald Reagan and was a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese. Wikipedia

    Not good enough credentials for tiam. Reagan was only a poser...

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Not good enough credentials for tiam. Reagan was only a poser...

    Reagan was a Reagan Republican.    Not a conservative.     These are things you've had beaten into your head over and over again.  Doesn't make them true.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    You could make the point what any president does is pandering could you not?

    And I guess you are the last of the Mohicans as far as real conservatives go..?

    I guess that is fair in a sense.    However most politicians don't go from NYC liberal to, as you and apparently the authors you have cited as the "most conservative President since Reagan" in the span of a Pre-election cycle.    The man, with his tweets as evidence, was eyeing this path for some time now.   Poking and prodding on whom to win over.   He saw an opportunity with the GOP and their identity politics and ran with it. 

    I'd have more respect for the guy if he had held some of these ideals before he had his eyes set on office.    Not to say that people can't change their minds in certain regards, but to such an extent?    Well, posters here like to cite and make fun of  Hillary for supporting "real marriage" once upon a time.  Now she's fine with gay marriage for quite a long while.     Door goes both ways.  But at least that biotch was making a 180 well before she considered holding high office (for the most part)

    @tiamat63 said:

    I guess that is fair in a sense.    However most politicians don't go from NYC liberal to, as you and apparently the authors you have cited as the "most conservative President since Reagan" in the span of a Pre-election cycle.    The man, with his tweets as evidence, was eyeing this path for some time now.   Poking and prodding on whom to win over.   He saw an opportunity with the GOP and their identity politics and ran with it. 

    I'd have more respect for the guy if he had held some of these ideals before he had his eyes set on office.    Not to say that people can't change their minds in certain regards, but to such an extent?    Well, posters here like to cite and make fun of  Hillary for supporting "real marriage" once upon a time.  Now she's fine with gay marriage for quite a long while.     Door goes both ways.  But at least that biotch was making a 180 well before she considered holding high office (for the most part)

    Identity politics...certainly you are talking about the democrats?

    Give me a break Tiam..Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama were only against gay marriage when supporting gay marriage would have hurt them politically. When they saw the polling shifting in favor of support for gay marriage they jumped ship immediately. Hillary knew she would be running in a short time and made the political calculation to "evolve" on gay marriage before her presidential run...you can't really believe what you just typed?

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Not good enough credentials for tiam. Reagan was only a poser...

    Reagan was a Reagan Republican.    Not a conservative.     These are things you've had beaten into your head over and over again.  Doesn't make them true.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Reagan was a Reagan Republican.    Not a conservative.     These are things you've had beaten into your head over and over again.  Doesn't make them true.

    You asked about what party you might want to join and I would say the only party you will ever be content with is probably one you form yourself. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    - You still fail to grasp any Amendment violations that I've highlighted previously such as the 4th, 5th and 14th as evidenced by either your non-responses or poorly constructed/thoughtout responses.   Spare me your bullshit "understanding" of the nuances of Constitutionality that you so greatly pretend to be an expert on. 

    - Did you know my football threads with my original ideas and content, by last check, were viewed at a rate 4x that of your own?

       your highlighted "violations" are ignorant. I didn't put you on ignore, I simply find you boring, often, about football. I suppose you account for 3x of reads on your own, little napoleon.

    I have never pretended to be an expert...but I have my opinions, and when I go to figure out if they are valid or not, I find that when Mark Levin and several other legit experts have the same opinion, I'm good. I have taken part in your football threads when I find them interesting. You know a lot about "x's and o's" but you don't seem to understand "heart"," love for the game", "character" and "team-oriented".

        You get your favorite draft picks from magazines you buy. and I don't start many threads about football, I have more fun reading other's posts, at least often, and news - it gets posted before I can post it.

       You should learn to stop puffing out your chest so prominently, you could end up needing a back brace when you get older.

    @calfoxwc said:

       your highlighted "violations" are ignorant. I didn't put you on ignore, I simply find you boring, often, about football. I suppose you account for 3x of reads on your own, little napoleon.

    I have never pretended to be an expert...but I have my opinions, and when I go to figure out if they are valid or not, I find that when Mark Levin and several other legit experts have the same opinion, I'm good. I have taken part in your football threads when I find them interesting. You know a lot about "x's and o's" but you don't seem to understand "heart"," love for the game", "character" and "team-oriented".

        You get your favorite draft picks from magazines you buy. and I don't start many threads about football, I have more fun reading other's posts, at least often, and news - it gets posted before I can post it.

       You should learn to stop puffing out your chest so prominently, you could end up needing a back brace when you get older.

    @calfoxwc said:

    'you're" is the contraction for "you are".

    "your" is possessive.

     

    - Mine is correct.  I'm not saying that ODB is " you are one issue voting"....  though it could go that way.  

    I'm saying he (ODB)and like minds are being pandered too one issue - YOUR (his) one issue voting card.   My application is correct.   Though perhaps could be worded better.

    Congrats, your attempt at being a legal professor and an English professor is a complete fuck up.

    My highlighted violations are real things and the furthest from ignorant.  Just because you toss around "ignorant" doesn't make it so.  I once asked for your rebuttals on the 5th and 14thA deterioration and you gave me nothing.   You just can't comprehend what I'm saying when it doesn't involve the 2ndA.   That much is clear.   Your knowledge is a mile wide, yet an inch deep.  

    Football can often be boring when you have to work on the repetitive.    But the little napoleon comment is good coming from an older, overweight guy that's about 5'7.     You've shouted down anyone that disagrees with you even respectfully.   Your mindless, repetitive threads daily with "OUR CONSTITUTION",  "THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR CONSTITUTION" blah blah blah blah, is a further implication that YOU somehow do and are at a level above what most anyone else would be.  

    You find me "boring, often, about football" but read my shit...?  Makes sense.   Also, I played from midget leagues, rec, Jr High into High school and shortly into college, and then into fully organized alumni ball as an adult up until a few years ago, now I help position coach....  meanwhile your fatass is on here outright admitting that you've never played a single down at any level because of "knee issues".  Which is fine by me.  But don't fucking lecture me on "heart" "love for the game" "character" and your cliche' bullshit which you have little to no idea about.   Solid suggestion - get off my fucking dick.     You have ZERO idea what those things are on the field and in the locker room.  

    You don't start many football threads because you read others opinions? (self advice you should take over here)  Cool too, because you don't feel you're an expert and that's fine.  But Notice how the role is reversed on this side of the forum?  Implying you feel you have such a command of the political landscape that you are an expert. 

    I'll puff my chest when you bring up shit that you have no business trying to compare to.  Also, won't need a back brace but I do on occasion need one for my left knee that still requires a quick scope.  Know how I got that?  Years of dedication to sports that I love and still play (mostly golf at this point)    Something I doubt you have very little idea of.

    I won't even end this one with a good day or hope your strawberries are doing well.           Piss off AND put me on ignore or don't reply.    At least OBF doesn't try to be some hardass.

  • @calfoxwc said:

       your highlighted "violations" are ignorant. I didn't put you on ignore, I simply find you boring, often, about football. I suppose you account for 3x of reads on your own, little napoleon.

    I have never pretended to be an expert...but I have my opinions, and when I go to figure out if they are valid or not, I find that when Mark Levin and several other legit experts have the same opinion, I'm good. I have taken part in your football threads when I find them interesting. You know a lot about "x's and o's" but you don't seem to understand "heart"," love for the game", "character" and "team-oriented".

        You get your favorite draft picks from magazines you buy. and I don't start many threads about football, I have more fun reading other's posts, at least often, and news - it gets posted before I can post it.

       You should learn to stop puffing out your chest so prominently, you could end up needing a back brace when you get older.

    @calfoxwc said:

    'you're" is the contraction for "you are".

    "your" is possessive.

     

    - Mine is correct.  I'm not saying that ODB is " you are one issue voting"....  though it could go that way.  

    I'm saying he (ODB)and like minds are being pandered too one issue - YOUR (his) one issue voting card.   My application is correct.   Though perhaps could be worded better.

    Congrats, your attempt at being a legal professor and an English professor is a complete fuck up.

    My highlighted violations are real things and the furthest from ignorant.  Just because you toss around "ignorant" doesn't make it so.  I once asked for your rebuttals on the 5th and 14thA deterioration and you gave me nothing.   You just can't comprehend what I'm saying when it doesn't involve the 2ndA.   That much is clear.   Your knowledge is a mile wide, yet an inch deep.  

    Football can often be boring when you have to work on the repetitive.    But the little napoleon comment is good coming from an older, overweight guy that's about 5'7.     You've shouted down anyone that disagrees with you even respectfully.   Your mindless, repetitive threads daily with "OUR CONSTITUTION",  "THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR CONSTITUTION" blah blah blah blah, is a further implication that YOU somehow do and are at a level above what most anyone else would be.  

    You find me "boring, often, about football" but read my shit...?  Makes sense.   Also, I played from midget leagues, rec, Jr High into High school and shortly into college, and then into fully organized alumni ball as an adult up until a few years ago, now I help position coach....  meanwhile your fatass is on here outright admitting that you've never played a single down at any level because of "knee issues".  Which is fine by me.  But don't fucking lecture me on "heart" "love for the game" "character" and your cliche' bullshit which you have little to no idea about.   Solid suggestion - get off my fucking dick.     You have ZERO idea what those things are on the field and in the locker room.  

    You don't start many football threads because you read others opinions? (self advice you should take over here)  Cool too, because you don't feel you're an expert and that's fine.  But Notice how the role is reversed on this side of the forum?  Implying you feel you have such a command of the political landscape that you are an expert. 

    I'll puff my chest when you bring up shit that you have no business trying to compare to.  Also, won't need a back brace but I do on occasion need one for my left knee that still requires a quick scope.  Know how I got that?  Years of dedication to sports that I love and still play (mostly golf at this point)    Something I doubt you have very little idea of.

    I won't even end this one with a good day or hope your strawberries are doing well.           Piss off AND put me on ignore or don't reply.    At least OBF doesn't try to be some hardass.

    @tiamat63 said:

    - Mine is correct.  I'm not saying that ODB is " you are one issue voting"....  though it could go that way.  

    I'm saying he (ODB)and like minds are being pandered too one issue - YOUR (his) one issue voting card.   My application is correct.   Though perhaps could be worded better.

    Congrats, your attempt at being a legal professor and an English professor is a complete fuck up.

    My highlighted violations are real things and the furthest from ignorant.  Just because you toss around "ignorant" doesn't make it so.  I once asked for your rebuttals on the 5th and 14thA deterioration and you gave me nothing.   You just can't comprehend what I'm saying when it doesn't involve the 2ndA.   That much is clear.   Your knowledge is a mile wide, yet an inch deep.  

    Football can often be boring when you have to work on the repetitive.    But the little napoleon comment is good coming from an older, overweight guy that's about 5'7.     You've shouted down anyone that disagrees with you even respectfully.   Your mindless, repetitive threads daily with "OUR CONSTITUTION",  "THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR CONSTITUTION" blah blah blah blah, is a further implication that YOU somehow do and are at a level above what most anyone else would be.  

    You find me "boring, often, about football" but read my shit...?  Makes sense.   Also, I played from midget leagues, rec, Jr High into High school and shortly into college, and then into fully organized alumni ball as an adult up until a few years ago, now I help position coach....  meanwhile your fatass is on here outright admitting that you've never played a single down at any level because of "knee issues".  Which is fine by me.  But don't fucking lecture me on "heart" "love for the game" "character" and your cliche' bullshit which you have little to no idea about.   Solid suggestion - get off my fucking dick.     You have ZERO idea what those things are on the field and in the locker room.  

    You don't start many football threads because you read others opinions? (self advice you should take over here)  Cool too, because you don't feel you're an expert and that's fine.  But Notice how the role is reversed on this side of the forum?  Implying you feel you have such a command of the political landscape that you are an expert. 

    I'll puff my chest when you bring up shit that you have no business trying to compare to.  Also, won't need a back brace but I do on occasion need one for my left knee that still requires a quick scope.  Know how I got that?  Years of dedication to sports that I love and still play (mostly golf at this point)    Something I doubt you have very little idea of.

    I won't even end this one with a good day or hope your strawberries are doing well.           Piss off AND put me on ignore or don't reply.    At least OBF doesn't try to be some hardass.

    Once you realize that posting about politics on the BB is not going to make an iota's difference about anything I think you can post and just have some fun with it. That is what I try to do. Come on man you posted on this thread spoiling for a fight and you got it so why get mad?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    - Mine is correct.  I'm not saying that ODB is " you are one issue voting"....  though it could go that way.  

    I'm saying he (ODB)and like minds are being pandered too one issue - YOUR (his) one issue voting card.   My application is correct.   Though perhaps could be worded better.

    Congrats, your attempt at being a legal professor and an English professor is a complete fuck up.

    My highlighted violations are real things and the furthest from ignorant.  Just because you toss around "ignorant" doesn't make it so.  I once asked for your rebuttals on the 5th and 14thA deterioration and you gave me nothing.   You just can't comprehend what I'm saying when it doesn't involve the 2ndA.   That much is clear.   Your knowledge is a mile wide, yet an inch deep.  

    Football can often be boring when you have to work on the repetitive.    But the little napoleon comment is good coming from an older, overweight guy that's about 5'7.     You've shouted down anyone that disagrees with you even respectfully.   Your mindless, repetitive threads daily with "OUR CONSTITUTION",  "THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR CONSTITUTION" blah blah blah blah, is a further implication that YOU somehow do and are at a level above what most anyone else would be.  

    You find me "boring, often, about football" but read my shit...?  Makes sense.   Also, I played from midget leagues, rec, Jr High into High school and shortly into college, and then into fully organized alumni ball as an adult up until a few years ago, now I help position coach....  meanwhile your fatass is on here outright admitting that you've never played a single down at any level because of "knee issues".  Which is fine by me.  But don't fucking lecture me on "heart" "love for the game" "character" and your cliche' bullshit which you have little to no idea about.   Solid suggestion - get off my fucking dick.     You have ZERO idea what those things are on the field and in the locker room.  

    You don't start many football threads because you read others opinions? (self advice you should take over here)  Cool too, because you don't feel you're an expert and that's fine.  But Notice how the role is reversed on this side of the forum?  Implying you feel you have such a command of the political landscape that you are an expert. 

    I'll puff my chest when you bring up shit that you have no business trying to compare to.  Also, won't need a back brace but I do on occasion need one for my left knee that still requires a quick scope.  Know how I got that?  Years of dedication to sports that I love and still play (mostly golf at this point)    Something I doubt you have very little idea of.

    I won't even end this one with a good day or hope your strawberries are doing well.           Piss off AND put me on ignore or don't reply.    At least OBF doesn't try to be some hardass.

    Once you realize that posting about politics on the BB is not going to make an iota's difference about anything I think you can post and just have some fun with it. That is what I try to do. Come on man you posted on this thread spoiling for a fight and you got it so why get mad?

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Once you realize that posting about politics on the BB is not going to make an iota's difference about anything I think you can post and just have some fun with it. That is what I try to do. Come on man you posted on this thread spoiling for a fight and you got it so why get mad?

    Did I?  You and I were conversing, then dick head decided to jump in and be some kind of action hero.  

    I realize it won't make an iota of difference, but an exchange of reasonable ideas, striking a conversation, etc etc... is always fine.   Posting on about football won't make an iota of difference either, but we do it because we enjoy the exchange.

    edit: Also, I'm not mad.    Mad isn't something I get often.  Annoyed? Possibly.  Mad? nah.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Once you realize that posting about politics on the BB is not going to make an iota's difference about anything I think you can post and just have some fun with it. That is what I try to do. Come on man you posted on this thread spoiling for a fight and you got it so why get mad?

    Did I?  You and I were conversing, then dick head decided to jump in and be some kind of action hero.  

    I realize it won't make an iota of difference, but an exchange of reasonable ideas, striking a conversation, etc etc... is always fine.   Posting on about football won't make an iota of difference either, but we do it because we enjoy the exchange.

    edit: Also, I'm not mad.    Mad isn't something I get often.  Annoyed? Possibly.  Mad? nah.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Did I?  You and I were conversing, then dick head decided to jump in and be some kind of action hero.  

    I realize it won't make an iota of difference, but an exchange of reasonable ideas, striking a conversation, etc etc... is always fine.   Posting on about football won't make an iota of difference either, but we do it because we enjoy the exchange.

    edit: Also, I'm not mad.    Mad isn't something I get often.  Annoyed? Possibly.  Mad? nah.

    On the football side of this forum we have some excellent football minds and like Cal I read them more than I post because I know my limitations. I never got beyond playing HS football and I think there are some who post on the football side who have much more credentials than I have. Even in HS I was a defensive end with a number 15 jersey. How did that happen? When we got our jersey numbers I looked at the big lines and since I hate waiting in line (and I had such a good football mind) I got in the smallest line (which I found later was for the quarterbacks LOL).

    Cal may not have played football but he has made some excellent football posts. I've read them . Sometimes a good story is not all about the x's and the o's. That can get boring. Cal is a story teller and sometimes that is a nice break from diagnosing plays. I respect those who have the ability on the football side to grade lineman and diagnose plays and such  but variety is the spice of life. And that takes me to the political side where I have no qualms about posting. Someone like Cal is what makes this political side not be boring.  When it comes to the constitution and constitutional matters I don't think there is anyone on the political side more knowledgeable than Cal.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Did I?  You and I were conversing, then dick head decided to jump in and be some kind of action hero.  

    I realize it won't make an iota of difference, but an exchange of reasonable ideas, striking a conversation, etc etc... is always fine.   Posting on about football won't make an iota of difference either, but we do it because we enjoy the exchange.

    edit: Also, I'm not mad.    Mad isn't something I get often.  Annoyed? Possibly.  Mad? nah.

    On the football side of this forum we have some excellent football minds and like Cal I read them more than I post because I know my limitations. I never got beyond playing HS football and I think there are some who post on the football side who have much more credentials than I have. Even in HS I was a defensive end with a number 15 jersey. How did that happen? When we got our jersey numbers I looked at the big lines and since I hate waiting in line (and I had such a good football mind) I got in the smallest line (which I found later was for the quarterbacks LOL).

    Cal may not have played football but he has made some excellent football posts. I've read them . Sometimes a good story is not all about the x's and the o's. That can get boring. Cal is a story teller and sometimes that is a nice break from diagnosing plays. I respect those who have the ability on the football side to grade lineman and diagnose plays and such  but variety is the spice of life. And that takes me to the political side where I have no qualms about posting. Someone like Cal is what makes this political side not be boring.  When it comes to the constitution and constitutional matters I don't think there is anyone on the political side more knowledgeable than Cal.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Someone like Cal is what makes this political side not be boring.  When it comes to the constitution and constitutional matters I don't think there is anyone on the political side more knowledgeable than Cal.

    You're conflating "not boring" for inflammatory.    But then again, millions anymore do.  This is the same mentality 'he who shall not be named but is now banned' thrived on over on the football side.

    We'll strongly agree to disagree.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Someone like Cal is what makes this political side not be boring.  When it comes to the constitution and constitutional matters I don't think there is anyone on the political side more knowledgeable than Cal.

    You're conflating "not boring" for inflammatory.    But then again, millions anymore do.  This is the same mentality 'he who shall not be named but is now banned' thrived on over on the football side.

    We'll strongly agree to disagree.

    @tiamat63 said:

    You're conflating "not boring" for inflammatory.    But then again, millions anymore do.  This is the same mentality 'he who shall not be named but is now banned' thrived on over on the football side.

    We'll strongly agree to disagree.

    We can't control what others say and do but what we can control is how we react to what others say and do. You can choose to not let what someone says be inflammatory to you. We choose our own emotions most of the time. Anger is a choice. 

    Speaking of Ghoulie I found I can learn things from people I might not necessarily agree with most of the time if I keep an open mind. One thing I learned from Ghoulie was what he was constantly talking about: the need for the Browns to have play makers. Since we always had so many holes to fill I was usually looking at quantity vs quality but as we have seen recently with Baker Mayfield and some others with the Browns today that having play makers makes all the difference. That is one reason I hated to see us lose Duke Johnson. 

    in·flam·ma·to·ry
    /inˈflaməˌtôrē/
    adjective
     
    1. 1.
      relating to or causing inflammation of a part of the body.
      synonyms: causing inflammation, causing swelling; More
       
       
       
    2. 2.
      (especially of speech or writing) arousing or intended to arouse angry or violent feelings.
      "inflammatory slogans"
      synonyms: provocative, provoking, inflaming, incendiary, inciting, agitating, agitational, stirring, rousing, instigative, fomenting; More
  • @tiamat63 said:

    You're conflating "not boring" for inflammatory.    But then again, millions anymore do.  This is the same mentality 'he who shall not be named but is now banned' thrived on over on the football side.

    We'll strongly agree to disagree.

    We can't control what others say and do but what we can control is how we react to what others say and do. You can choose to not let what someone says be inflammatory to you. We choose our own emotions most of the time. Anger is a choice. 

    Speaking of Ghoulie I found I can learn things from people I might not necessarily agree with most of the time if I keep an open mind. One thing I learned from Ghoulie was what he was constantly talking about: the need for the Browns to have play makers. Since we always had so many holes to fill I was usually looking at quantity vs quality but as we have seen recently with Baker Mayfield and some others with the Browns today that having play makers makes all the difference. That is one reason I hated to see us lose Duke Johnson. 

    in·flam·ma·to·ry
    /inˈflaməˌtôrē/
    adjective
     
    1. 1.
      relating to or causing inflammation of a part of the body.
      synonyms: causing inflammation, causing swelling; More
       
       
       
    2. 2.
      (especially of speech or writing) arousing or intended to arouse angry or violent feelings.
      "inflammatory slogans"
      synonyms: provocative, provoking, inflaming, incendiary, inciting, agitating, agitational, stirring, rousing, instigative, fomenting; More

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    We can't control what others say and do but what we can control is how we react to what others say and do. You can choose to not let what someone says be inflammatory to you. We choose our own emotions most of the time. Anger is a choice. 

    Speaking of Ghoulie I found I can learn things from people I might not necessarily agree with most of the time if I keep an open mind. One thing I learned from Ghoulie was what he was constantly talking about: the need for the Browns to have play makers. Since we always had so man- y holes to fill I was usually looking at quantity vs quality but as we have seen recently with Baker Mayfield and some others with the Browns today that having play makers makes all the difference. That is one reason I hated to see us lose Duke Johnson. 

    in·flam·ma·to·ry
    /inˈflaməˌtôrē/
    adjective
     
    1. 1.
      relating to or causing inflammation of a part of the body.
      synonyms: causing inflammation, causing swelling; More
       
       
       
    2. 2.
      (especially of speech or writing) arousing or intended to arouse angry or violent feelings.
      "inflammatory slogans"
      synonyms: provocative, provoking, inflaming, incendiary, inciting, agitating, agitational, stirring, rousing, instigative, fomenting; More

    - Generally that means agreeing with the message.   Even if the message is patently false, or abhorrent. 

    - Ghoulies incessant whining about "playmakers" was both incredibly obvious yet incredibly vague and false at the same time.   Mostly because, while you do need NFL quality players to run, catch, cover and tackle - you cannot do so with maximum effectiveness without having a quality NFL line.     So he may have stumbled his fatass into something that was inherently rather correct, but like bad math, his formula of arrival was all wrong.   Meanwhile, the other half of the time he invalidated what little he wasn't terribly off about by being WILDLY off on most other assessments about personnel and positions.   It takes no football genius to see the Browns needed talent and weren't very good.      Ghoulie wasn't here to educate or point out obvious, he was here for his self gratification, trolling and those things alone.

  • well, I humbly have often admitted I never played. I was never allowed to. Like I've stated in the past, I was even not allowed to be drafted because of my knee which was reconstructed the summer after the ninth grade.

       But I enlisted anyways 2.5 yrs after being 2A. They weren't going to let me enlist then either, but I talked em into it.

    The trouble with the internet, if you knew more about me, you'd be surprised how wrong you are.

    FYI - I am a few sheets of paper width from 5'9", still short. But I have lived my life differently since I very nearly died when I was a kid, there are a few stories only close friends ever know. God really is there. Okay, so I'm goin on a diet so we can hike a lot easier next year with friends at Yellowstone.

       Toward the end of my enlistment, I was actively recruited to join OSI. The "NCIS" of the Air Force. You don't get that by being tall enough to play football, Tiam. I spent four years with an excellent record on a bad knee. I know far more about heart, love for the game, character, toughness, honor, integrity, love for my country, and love for life than you may ever know.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_Office_of_Special_Investigations

    I said you don't understand "heart" etc because I see your picks in the draft reflect it. You bicker about numbers and stats and fail to take into consideration the other players around a player, and the level of competition they face.

        Leave it to you, and you would never have taken Jack Lambert seriously. "small program" "no big league competition"..."too skinny"...that has been you in the past. Mind you, I helped Gary PInkel get extra tickets one year- I knew people. He was Jack Lambert's roommate. They both stopped by to pick up the extra tickets ... they were both stars in college....

    Obviously, you know about Lambert. You know about Gary PInkel? He was a really great guy - you know about him?

    I don't think he was ever drafted... but he became a famous successful college head coach.

    https://www.garypinkel.com/bio/

    but I was closely watching football since I was a kid.

    So, what happened, belligerent boy? you shortly played in college...and ....quit? got injured? That makes you superior to everybody else who didn't play? Like Woody is "superior" because of his education in engineering (alleged)?

      And I will darn good and well lecture your xo highness any freakin time I want to. Yes, I'm older - and mucho wiser.

    You never post like you understand "heart" etc.

  • is cal suggesting jack lambert wasnt taken seriously coming out of college? cause i thought he went late 1st roind but looked it up it was 2nd round. Must have been on some peoples radars.....

  • well, I humbly have often admitted I never played. I was never allowed to. Like I've stated in the past, I was even not allowed to be drafted because of my knee which was reconstructed the summer after the ninth grade.

       But I enlisted anyways 2.5 yrs after being 2A. They weren't going to let me enlist then either, but I talked em into it.

    The trouble with the internet, if you knew more about me, you'd be surprised how wrong you are.

    FYI - I am a few sheets of paper width from 5'9", still short. But I have lived my life differently since I very nearly died when I was a kid, there are a few stories only close friends ever know. God really is there. Okay, so I'm goin on a diet so we can hike a lot easier next year with friends at Yellowstone.

       Toward the end of my enlistment, I was actively recruited to join OSI. The "NCIS" of the Air Force. You don't get that by being tall enough to play football, Tiam. I spent four years with an excellent record on a bad knee. I know far more about heart, love for the game, character, toughness, honor, integrity, love for my country, and love for life than you may ever know.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_Office_of_Special_Investigations

    I said you don't understand "heart" etc because I see your picks in the draft reflect it. You bicker about numbers and stats and fail to take into consideration the other players around a player, and the level of competition they face.

        Leave it to you, and you would never have taken Jack Lambert seriously. "small program" "no big league competition"..."too skinny"...that has been you in the past. Mind you, I helped Gary PInkel get extra tickets one year- I knew people. He was Jack Lambert's roommate. They both stopped by to pick up the extra tickets ... they were both stars in college....

    Obviously, you know about Lambert. You know about Gary PInkel? He was a really great guy - you know about him?

    I don't think he was ever drafted... but he became a famous successful college head coach.

    https://www.garypinkel.com/bio/

    but I was closely watching football since I was a kid.

    So, what happened, belligerent boy? you shortly played in college...and ....quit? got injured? That makes you superior to everybody else who didn't play? Like Woody is "superior" because of his education in engineering (alleged)?

      And I will darn good and well lecture your xo highness any freakin time I want to. Yes, I'm older - and mucho wiser.

    You never post like you understand "heart" etc.

    @calfoxwc said:

     Yes, I'm older - and mucho wiser.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-bullshit.jpg

  • Clevis, the mentally challenged of the BB.