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THAT DIDN'T AGE WELL #21: TRUMP CURSE IN MEDIA PART 1

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      I'm sure that had nothing to do with them being written forms of media (that are fading across the board) and everything to do with a negative article on Trump at some point.

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        I'm sure that had nothing to do with them being written forms of media (that are fading across the board) and everything to do with a negative article on Trump at some point.

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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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        @mld-woody said:

        I'm sure that had nothing to do with them being written forms of media (that are fading across the board) and everything to do with a negative article on Trump at some point.

        You might be right the vid was just for fun but there is a larger point of why some liberals feel compelled to get out of their lanes to attack Trump? What purpose does it serve to unnecessarily offend a good portion of your customer base? 

        I would say the same thing with ESPN. There are likely a number of reasons they have lost viewers but I  wouldn't discount becoming too political as one of the factors. ESPN must think that themselves because they have recently been taking steps to be less poltical.

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          Oh geez not the ESPN thing again. At least you've moved on from "they're losing viewers because of their liberal politics!"

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            Oh geez not the ESPN thing again. At least you've moved on from "they're losing viewers because of their liberal politics!"

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            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            @mld-woody said:

            Oh geez not the ESPN thing again. At least you've moved on from "they're losing viewers because of their liberal politics!"

            But what does ESPN say themselves about being too political:

            ESPN president: 'Our fans do not want us to cover politics'

            https://thehill.com/homenews/media/444823-espn-president-our-fans-do-not-want-us-to-cover-politics

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              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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              MAD Magazine has shit on every president that has been in office. It was their thing. That said, papers and magazines are going the way of disco because of the internet.

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                @mld-woody said:

                Oh geez not the ESPN thing again. At least you've moved on from "they're losing viewers because of their liberal politics!"

                But what does ESPN say themselves about being too political:

                ESPN president: 'Our fans do not want us to cover politics'

                https://thehill.com/homenews/media/444823-espn-president-our-fans-do-not-want-us-to-cover-politics

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                @oldbrownsfan said:

                But what does ESPN say themselves about being too political:

                ESPN president: 'Our fans do not want us to cover politics'

                https://thehill.com/homenews/media/444823-espn-president-our-fans-do-not-want-us-to-cover-politics

                LOL.

                the woodpecker got his beak twisted over that one.web_120588_web.jpg?itok=qxa4VJVB

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  This board would have made you believe the entire decline of ESPN was because they said critical things of Trump. There are a handful of reasons. Having less political talk is smart regardless. Less bad press, legitimate or not.

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    This board would have made you believe the entire decline of ESPN was because they said critical things of Trump. There are a handful of reasons. Having less political talk is smart regardless. Less bad press, legitimate or not.

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    This board would have made you believe the entire decline of ESPN was because they said critical things of Trump. There are a handful of reasons. Having less political talk is smart regardless. Less bad press, legitimate or not.

                    The bottom line is the president of ESPN himself thought it was enough of a problem to address it and try to correct it.

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                      This board would have made you believe the entire decline of ESPN was because they said critical things of Trump. There are a handful of reasons. Having less political talk is smart regardless. Less bad press, legitimate or not.

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      This board would have made you believe the entire decline of ESPN was because they said critical things of Trump. There are a handful of reasons. Having less political talk is smart regardless. Less bad press, legitimate or not.

                      which is nonsense, what you spew most always. It started with soft-pedaling a few cranky hater players kneeling in disrespect to our Flag and Anthem and country. You don't understand anything - the black power salute during the olympics was 50 years ago - that, since you probably don't know, was before PRes Trump became president.

                      2 Black Power Advocates Ousted From Olympics - The New York Times
                       
                      www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/big/1018.html?module...
                       
                      http://www.espn.com/video/category?id=12740388
                      Mexico City, Oct. 18--The United States Olympic Committee suspended Tommie Smith and John Carlos today for having used last Wednesday's victory ...

                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyswan/2017/10/11/espns-politics-are-killing-its-brand/#1f0b3b4f1429

                      "if we take a look at the chart below from LikeFolio, we can see social media consumer sentiment at ESPN dropping from 62% all the way down to 41% positive in the last month alone: "

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                        MAD Magazine has shit on every president that has been in office. It was their thing. That said, papers and magazines are going the way of disco because of the internet.

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        @logicisforsquares said:

                        MAD Magazine has shit on every president that has been in office. It was their thing. That said, papers and magazines are going the way of disco because of the internet.

                        No, it's because they said mean things about Trump

                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          MAD Magazine has shit on every president that has been in office. It was their thing. That said, papers and magazines are going the way of disco because of the internet.

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @logicisforsquares said:

                          MAD Magazine has shit on every president that has been in office. It was their thing. That said, papers and magazines are going the way of disco because of the internet.

                          And I would not disagree with that but generally speaking if am selling a product the last thing I would want to do is to inject divisive politics into my product knowing it might alienate a good portion of customers. I would think the same way as an entertainer. Why would I want to turn off a good portion of my fans by interjecting politics? 

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                            @logicisforsquares said:

                            MAD Magazine has shit on every president that has been in office. It was their thing. That said, papers and magazines are going the way of disco because of the internet.

                            And I would not disagree with that but generally speaking if am selling a product the last thing I would want to do is to inject divisive politics into my product knowing it might alienate a good portion of customers. I would think the same way as an entertainer. Why would I want to turn off a good portion of my fans by interjecting politics? 

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                            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                            @oldbrownsfan said:

                            And I would not disagree with that but generally speaking if am selling a product the last thing I would want to do is to inject divisive politics into my product knowing it might alienate a good portion of customers. I would think the same way as an entertainer. Why would I want to turn off a good portion of my fans by interjecting politics? 

                            Generally, I am with you. But if you are giving it to both sides like Mad has been apt to do then no particular side should be whining unless they are just prone to whining (i.e. the types of people who take to Youtube to whine about a cartoon book).

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                              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                              Just search "hillary" and "mad magazine", you will see that obviously they have taken their shots at her.

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                                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                The "weakened by Bernie" cover was pretty funny.

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                                  Just search "hillary" and "mad magazine", you will see that obviously they have taken their shots at her.

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                                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                  @logicisforsquares said:

                                  Just search "hillary" and "mad magazine", you will see that obviously they have taken their shots at her.

                                  I wouldn't argue about Mad magazine but I would on something like Saturday Night Live who does take shots at both sides but not equally or fairly. SNL clearly leans left in their material. 

                                  Rob Schneider Says ‘Saturday Night Live’ Overt Liberal Politics Hurt Its Comedy

                                  https://deadline.com/2018/04/rob-schneider-says-saturday-night-live-liberal-politics-hurt-its-comedy-1202378832/

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