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  • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

    @gorka said:

    Maybe God made a segment of the population fgts as a form of natural birth control in order to suppress world overpopulation.

    I would have to hear OBF's take on that though.

    So God would intentionally make a group of humans homosexual, only to create a commandment against homosexuality and eternally damn those whom he created "sick" and commanded to be well in the first place?

    Seems legit. Only religion would attempt to square that circle of logic.

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    GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by
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    @jbluhm86 said:

    So God would intentionally make a group of humans homosexual, only to create a commandment against homosexuality and eternally damn those whom he created "sick" and commanded to be well in the first place?

    Seems legit. Only religion would attempt to square that circle of logic.

    Don't preach to me. How the fuck do I know?  No expert on religion or Bible so I consulted OBF on my theory.

    Which commandment is against homosex anyway? No. 11?

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      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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      Sensitive much? I wasn't "preaching" or calling you out; I was just pointing out the paradox of a God who'd simultaneously make a certain proportion of his creations homosexual while ordering them to not be homosexual upon pain of death and damnation.

      As for the commandment(s):

      Lev 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

      Lev 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        You have serious issues that have been revealed recently on the BB Political board.  I suggest you get counseling at the nearest center for mental heatlh.

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          Sensitive much? I wasn't "preaching" or calling you out; I was just pointing out the paradox of a God who'd simultaneously make a certain proportion of his creations homosexual while ordering them to not be homosexual upon pain of death and damnation.

          As for the commandment(s):

          Lev 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

          Lev 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

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          GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by
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          @jbluhm86 said:

          Sensitive much? I wasn't "preaching" or calling you out; I was just pointing out the paradox of a God who'd simultaneously make a certain proportion of his creations homosexual while ordering them to not be homosexual upon pain of death and damnation.

          As for the commandment(s):

          Lev 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

          Lev 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

          What does lying have to do with homosex? I think I'll just wait for OBF to clarify and go with what he says. He has tremendous knowledge of the Bible. I can tell you're more of a novice. 

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            @jbluhm86 said:

            Sensitive much? I wasn't "preaching" or calling you out; I was just pointing out the paradox of a God who'd simultaneously make a certain proportion of his creations homosexual while ordering them to not be homosexual upon pain of death and damnation.

            As for the commandment(s):

            Lev 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

            Lev 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

            What does lying have to do with homosex? I think I'll just wait for OBF to clarify and go with what he says. He has tremendous knowledge of the Bible. I can tell you're more of a novice. 

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            jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by jbluhm86
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            @gorka said:

            What does lying have to do with homosex? I think I'll just wait for OBF to clarify and go with what he says. He has tremendous knowledge of the Bible. I can tell you're more of a novice. 

            I can't tell if this was a poor attempt at trolling, or if you're just simply mentally Retarded.

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            • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

              @gorka said:

              What does lying have to do with homosex? I think I'll just wait for OBF to clarify and go with what he says. He has tremendous knowledge of the Bible. I can tell you're more of a novice. 

              I can't tell if this was a poor attempt at trolling, or if you're just simply mentally Retarded.

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              @jbluhm86 said:

              I can't tell if this was a poor attempt at trolling, or if you're just simply mentally Retarded.

              Now that wasn't very nice. You said so yourself that I'm sensitive.lol

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              • GorkaG Gorka

                Maybe God made a segment of the population fgts as a form of natural birth control in order to suppress world overpopulation.

                I would have to hear OBF's take on that though.

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                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                @gorka said:

                Maybe God made a segment of the population fgts as a form of natural birth control in order to suppress world overpopulation.

                I would have to hear OBF's take on that though.

                The "gay" gene is part of the debate (that some make) that God is so mean He makes people to be gay then condemns them to hell for it.  The bible portrays homosexuality as a sinful lifestyle similar to adultery. People were not born adulterers they choose to be. 

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                  @gorka said:

                  Maybe God made a segment of the population fgts as a form of natural birth control in order to suppress world overpopulation.

                  I would have to hear OBF's take on that though.

                  The "gay" gene is part of the debate (that some make) that God is so mean He makes people to be gay then condemns them to hell for it.  The bible portrays homosexuality as a sinful lifestyle similar to adultery. People were not born adulterers they choose to be. 

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                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                  The "gay" gene is part of the debate (that some make) that God is so mean He makes people to be gay then condemns them to hell for it.  The bible portrays homosexuality as a sinful lifestyle similar to adultery. People were not born adulterers they choose to be. 

                  On the contrary my friend yes they are. They choose to be monogamous, or some people try to at any rate.. rule number one in nature is propagate. Food territory shelter self preservation and mating it's what animals fight over and so do we.

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                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                    The "gay" gene is part of the debate (that some make) that God is so mean He makes people to be gay then condemns them to hell for it.  The bible portrays homosexuality as a sinful lifestyle similar to adultery. People were not born adulterers they choose to be. 

                    On the contrary my friend yes they are. They choose to be monogamous, or some people try to at any rate.. rule number one in nature is propagate. Food territory shelter self preservation and mating it's what animals fight over and so do we.

                    WSS

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    On the contrary my friend yes they are. They choose to be monogamous, or some people try to at any rate.. rule number one in nature is propagate. Food territory shelter self preservation and mating it's what animals fight over and so do we.

                    WSS

                    "Food territory shelter self preservation and mating it's what animals fight over and so do we."

                    This is true and what concerns me the most about the brave new world coming where that "old book" (that teaches us a higher way of living) is discarded and everyone does what is right in their own eyes. We have history as an example of periods of time in Israel's history where that happened and it always ended up badly.

                    Here is a good example of what I am talking about. God made us male and female. Simple. Yet when man gets better ideas all of a sudden we now have dozens and dozens of different confusing genders. God had it right all along. There are only two.

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      On the contrary my friend yes they are. They choose to be monogamous, or some people try to at any rate.. rule number one in nature is propagate. Food territory shelter self preservation and mating it's what animals fight over and so do we.

                      WSS

                      "Food territory shelter self preservation and mating it's what animals fight over and so do we."

                      This is true and what concerns me the most about the brave new world coming where that "old book" (that teaches us a higher way of living) is discarded and everyone does what is right in their own eyes. We have history as an example of periods of time in Israel's history where that happened and it always ended up badly.

                      Here is a good example of what I am talking about. God made us male and female. Simple. Yet when man gets better ideas all of a sudden we now have dozens and dozens of different confusing genders. God had it right all along. There are only two.

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                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      "Food territory shelter self preservation and mating it's what animals fight over and so do we."

                      This is true and what concerns me the most about the brave new world coming where that "old book" (that teaches us a higher way of living) is discarded and everyone does what is right in their own eyes. We have history as an example of periods of time in Israel's history where that happened and it always ended up badly.

                      Yep. And one of the basic ideas is that self sacrifice for the benefit of others is good and Noble. I think that probably goes against human nature and maybe I'm cynical but I think those who espouse that especially in the political Realm are hypocritical and that they are just demanding that others sacrifice so they can get the votes of the perceived victims rather than actually having to sacrifice anything themselves.

                      Not to be facetious it sounds like not only the struggle between Satan and the Lord but the Federations versus the Klingons.

                      Especially in politics I have a hard time believing that compassion is honest.

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                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                        "Food territory shelter self preservation and mating it's what animals fight over and so do we."

                        This is true and what concerns me the most about the brave new world coming where that "old book" (that teaches us a higher way of living) is discarded and everyone does what is right in their own eyes. We have history as an example of periods of time in Israel's history where that happened and it always ended up badly.

                        Yep. And one of the basic ideas is that self sacrifice for the benefit of others is good and Noble. I think that probably goes against human nature and maybe I'm cynical but I think those who espouse that especially in the political Realm are hypocritical and that they are just demanding that others sacrifice so they can get the votes of the perceived victims rather than actually having to sacrifice anything themselves.

                        Not to be facetious it sounds like not only the struggle between Satan and the Lord but the Federations versus the Klingons.

                        Especially in politics I have a hard time believing that compassion is honest.

                        WSS

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        Yep. And one of the basic ideas is that self sacrifice for the benefit of others is good and Noble. I think that probably goes against human nature and maybe I'm cynical but I think those who espouse that especially in the political Realm are hypocritical and that they are just demanding that others sacrifice so they can get the votes of the perceived victims rather than actually having to sacrifice anything themselves.

                        Not to be facetious it sounds like not only the struggle between Satan and the Lord but the Federations versus the Klingons.

                        Especially in politics I have a hard time believing that compassion is honest.

                        WSS

                        On the other hand supposedly human beings are the only creatures that can think an abstract or spirituality.

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