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  • W Westside Steve

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    The democrats have swung so far left I would think Trump would be a shoo in for 2020 yet all the polls have him behind substantially right now and it concerns me. With what the democrats have been proposing such as free healthcare for illegal immigrants, open borders. eliminating ICE, trillions of dollars wasted on a Green new deal that would destroy our economy and give us huge tax increases, anti 2a, abortions to fight climate change and on and on they are out of touch with most of middle America and they are leading in the polls against Trump? Trump has had huge successes as president (primarily the economy) and has had the economy Obama only dreamed about and he should be ahead in the polls substantially. 

    It all depends on their ability to get the fridge out to vote. Of course that's why they keep screaming misogyny racism homophobia Etc at the top of their lungs. And of course young people who are used to having Mom and Dad pay their housing food Medical Care Etc think that Sanders and Warren would be a great thing. No doubt they are looking at having to pay their own way sooner or later and would like to avoid that probability.

    And to be honest at that age I probably would have felt the same way.

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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    It all depends on their ability to get the fridge out to vote. Of course that's why they keep screaming misogyny racism homophobia Etc at the top of their lungs. And of course young people who are used to having Mom and Dad pay their housing food Medical Care Etc think that Sanders and Warren would be a great thing. No doubt they are looking at having to pay their own way sooner or later and would like to avoid that probability.

    And to be honest at that age I probably would have felt the same way.

    WSS

    Only shows in our "information age" how uneducated and ill informed too many are. If more people knew the downside of socialism the pied pipers of the democrat party  socialist's message would not be so popular.

    Socialism in theory sounds good. In fact the early Christian church practiced a type of socialism but in the world socialism is a proven failure. It makes the ruling elites the rulers of the masses and doesn't make anyone wealthier just makes all of us more poorer.

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      L.A. Students Enthusiastically Sign Petition To Protect Unborn Eagles; But When It Comes To Unborn Babies, Well…Watch

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        just....

        insane. But saying the green new deal is like the sacrifices during WWII....

        that is worse than mental illness.

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          @westside-steve said:

          It all depends on their ability to get the fridge out to vote. Of course that's why they keep screaming misogyny racism homophobia Etc at the top of their lungs. And of course young people who are used to having Mom and Dad pay their housing food Medical Care Etc think that Sanders and Warren would be a great thing. No doubt they are looking at having to pay their own way sooner or later and would like to avoid that probability.

          And to be honest at that age I probably would have felt the same way.

          WSS

          Only shows in our "information age" how uneducated and ill informed too many are. If more people knew the downside of socialism the pied pipers of the democrat party  socialist's message would not be so popular.

          Socialism in theory sounds good. In fact the early Christian church practiced a type of socialism but in the world socialism is a proven failure. It makes the ruling elites the rulers of the masses and doesn't make anyone wealthier just makes all of us more poorer.

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          marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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          @oldbrownsfan said:

          Only shows in our "information age" how uneducated and ill informed too many are. If more people knew the downside of socialism the pied pipers of the democrat party  socialist's message would not be so popular.

          Socialism in theory sounds good. In fact the early Christian church practiced a type of socialism but in the world socialism is a proven failure. It makes the ruling elites the rulers of the masses and doesn't make anyone wealthier just makes all of us more poorer.

          I wrote a paper in college about this. It detailed human nature as the catalyst for the failure of socialism and communism. 

          It would require a level of unity that this country or any other is simply not capable of. 

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            @oldbrownsfan said:

            Only shows in our "information age" how uneducated and ill informed too many are. If more people knew the downside of socialism the pied pipers of the democrat party  socialist's message would not be so popular.

            Socialism in theory sounds good. In fact the early Christian church practiced a type of socialism but in the world socialism is a proven failure. It makes the ruling elites the rulers of the masses and doesn't make anyone wealthier just makes all of us more poorer.

            I wrote a paper in college about this. It detailed human nature as the catalyst for the failure of socialism and communism. 

            It would require a level of unity that this country or any other is simply not capable of. 

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            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            @marcus said:

            I wrote a paper in college about this. It detailed human nature as the catalyst for the failure of socialism and communism. 

            It would require a level of unity that this country or any other is simply not capable of. 

            Selfishness. It is why socialism fails in the world. It is why in communist countries you end up with ruling elites lording it over over the masses.

            The early church practiced a form of communism with churches who had abundance sharing with churches that lacked (spreading the wealth around). They succeeded because they were not selfish but they were not the norm.

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              @marcus said:

              I wrote a paper in college about this. It detailed human nature as the catalyst for the failure of socialism and communism. 

              It would require a level of unity that this country or any other is simply not capable of. 

              Selfishness. It is why socialism fails in the world. It is why in communist countries you end up with ruling elites lording it over over the masses.

              The early church practiced a form of communism with churches who had abundance sharing with churches that lacked (spreading the wealth around). They succeeded because they were not selfish but they were not the norm.

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              marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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              @oldbrownsfan said:

              Selfishness. It is why socialism fails in the world. It is why in communist countries you end up with ruling elites lording it over over the masses.

              The early church practiced a form of communism with churches who had abundance sharing with churches that lacked (spreading the wealth around). They succeeded because they were not selfish but they were not the norm.

              You got it stud. We as human beings are inherently selfish. Call it basic survival instinct, but is much more difficult to be selfless than it is to be selfish.

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                @oldbrownsfan said:

                Only shows in our "information age" how uneducated and ill informed too many are. If more people knew the downside of socialism the pied pipers of the democrat party  socialist's message would not be so popular.

                Socialism in theory sounds good. In fact the early Christian church practiced a type of socialism but in the world socialism is a proven failure. It makes the ruling elites the rulers of the masses and doesn't make anyone wealthier just makes all of us more poorer.

                I wrote a paper in college about this. It detailed human nature as the catalyst for the failure of socialism and communism. 

                It would require a level of unity that this country or any other is simply not capable of. 

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                @marcus said:

                I wrote a paper in college about this. It detailed human nature as the catalyst for the failure of socialism and communism. 

                It would require a level of unity that this country or any other is simply not capable of. 

                And I bet you got a D or an F.

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                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                  Selfishness. It is why socialism fails in the world. It is why in communist countries you end up with ruling elites lording it over over the masses.

                  The early church practiced a form of communism with churches who had abundance sharing with churches that lacked (spreading the wealth around). They succeeded because they were not selfish but they were not the norm.

                  You got it stud. We as human beings are inherently selfish. Call it basic survival instinct, but is much more difficult to be selfless than it is to be selfish.

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                  @marcus said:

                  You got it stud. We as human beings are inherently selfish. Call it basic survival instinct, but is much more difficult to be selfless than it is to be selfish.

                  That's completely true. Where you been Marcus?

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                  • GorkaG Gorka

                    @marcus said:

                    I wrote a paper in college about this. It detailed human nature as the catalyst for the failure of socialism and communism. 

                    It would require a level of unity that this country or any other is simply not capable of. 

                    And I bet you got a D or an F.

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                    marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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                    @gorka said:

                    And I bet you got a D or an F.

                    You would be wrong sir. I got an A as I did mostly through school. It was back when going to college taught you things like independent thought, reading people, and open mindedness. You know those days you were probably ? 

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                    • W Westside Steve

                      @marcus said:

                      You got it stud. We as human beings are inherently selfish. Call it basic survival instinct, but is much more difficult to be selfless than it is to be selfish.

                      That's completely true. Where you been Marcus?

                      WSS

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      That's completely true. Where you been Marcus?

                      WSS

                      Been busy with work and being a dad and husband. But I’m going pop in more often.

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                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                        Only shows in our "information age" how uneducated and ill informed too many are. If more people knew the downside of socialism the pied pipers of the democrat party  socialist's message would not be so popular.

                        Socialism in theory sounds good. In fact the early Christian church practiced a type of socialism but in the world socialism is a proven failure. It makes the ruling elites the rulers of the masses and doesn't make anyone wealthier just makes all of us more poorer.

                        I wrote a paper in college about this. It detailed human nature as the catalyst for the failure of socialism and communism. 

                        It would require a level of unity that this country or any other is simply not capable of. 

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                        @marcus said:

                        I wrote a paper in college about this. It detailed human nature as the catalyst for the failure of socialism and communism. 

                        It would require a level of unity that this country or any other is simply not capable of. 

                        Glad you stopped by Marcus, I’ve always enjoyed your posts.

                        And your absolutely right about socialism, it only works in the insect world.

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                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                          Selfishness. It is why socialism fails in the world. It is why in communist countries you end up with ruling elites lording it over over the masses.

                          The early church practiced a form of communism with churches who had abundance sharing with churches that lacked (spreading the wealth around). They succeeded because they were not selfish but they were not the norm.

                          You got it stud. We as human beings are inherently selfish. Call it basic survival instinct, but is much more difficult to be selfless than it is to be selfish.

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @marcus said:

                          You got it stud. We as human beings are inherently selfish. Call it basic survival instinct, but is much more difficult to be selfless than it is to be selfish.

                          There was also another reason why the early church's form of socialism worked. The Apostle Paul had a rule if a person didn't want to work then then they shouldn't eat. That took care of the dead beats who would be content to let others work to support them. If you were able bodied you were expected to work. 

                          2 Thes 3:10

                          For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

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                            @marcus said:

                            You got it stud. We as human beings are inherently selfish. Call it basic survival instinct, but is much more difficult to be selfless than it is to be selfish.

                            There was also another reason why the early church's form of socialism worked. The Apostle Paul had a rule if a person didn't want to work then then they shouldn't eat. That took care of the dead beats who would be content to let others work to support them. If you were able bodied you were expected to work. 

                            2 Thes 3:10

                            For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

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                            marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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                            @oldbrownsfan said:

                            There was also another reason why the early church's form of socialism worked. The Apostle Paul had a rule if a person didn't want to work then then they shouldn't eat. That took care of the dead beats who would be content to let others work to support them. If you were able bodied you were expected to work. 

                            2 Thes 3:10

                            For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

                            There it is again, human nature. Working is not the path of least resistance. Basic survival instinct dictates the safest path is the one the with the least resistance and least risk. Certain occupations, even back in the times of the Apostle Paul were not only hard but were dangerous too.

                            Suffice to say, Christ knew that the hardest fight for us in life was against our own nature. He knew our own nature is what Satan exploits the most. This thing called life is a fascinating venture.

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                              @oldbrownsfan said:

                              There was also another reason why the early church's form of socialism worked. The Apostle Paul had a rule if a person didn't want to work then then they shouldn't eat. That took care of the dead beats who would be content to let others work to support them. If you were able bodied you were expected to work. 

                              2 Thes 3:10

                              For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

                              There it is again, human nature. Working is not the path of least resistance. Basic survival instinct dictates the safest path is the one the with the least resistance and least risk. Certain occupations, even back in the times of the Apostle Paul were not only hard but were dangerous too.

                              Suffice to say, Christ knew that the hardest fight for us in life was against our own nature. He knew our own nature is what Satan exploits the most. This thing called life is a fascinating venture.

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              @marcus said:

                              There it is again, human nature. Working is not the path of least resistance. Basic survival instinct dictates the safest path is the one the with the least resistance and least risk. Certain occupations, even back in the times of the Apostle Paul were not only hard but were dangerous too.

                              Suffice to say, Christ knew that the hardest fight for us in life was against our own nature. He knew our own nature is what Satan exploits the most. This thing called life is a fascinating venture.

                              Capitalism has its faults but it has been proven to produce the highest standard of living where it is applied. People will take risks with their own money if there is a pay off. If you take away the pay off then what incentives are there for someone to risk their own money to build or expand a business if they will only get punished for it by the government taking away most of their profits?

                              Satan also likes to mimic God and communism is an attempt to duplicate what the early church had with the early church's form of communism. Communism in the world fails though because we have a selfish nature and fighting against that nature is a battle we all have. It is a funny thing though how easily we can spot selfishness in the other guy.

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                                The democrats have swung so far left I would think Trump would be a shoo in for 2020 yet all the polls have him behind substantially right now and it concerns me. With what the democrats have been proposing such as free healthcare for illegal immigrants, open borders. eliminating ICE, trillions of dollars wasted on a Green new deal that would destroy our economy and give us huge tax increases, anti 2a, abortions to fight climate change and on and on they are out of touch with most of middle America and they are leading in the polls against Trump? Trump has had huge successes as president (primarily the economy) and has had the economy Obama only dreamed about and he should be ahead in the polls substantially. 

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                                @oldbrownsfan said:

                                The democrats have swung so far left I would think Trump would be a shoo in for 2020 yet all the polls have him behind substantially right now and it concerns me. With what the democrats have been proposing such as free healthcare for illegal immigrants, open borders. eliminating ICE, trillions of dollars wasted on a Green new deal that would destroy our economy and give us huge tax increases, anti 2a, abortions to fight climate change and on and on they are out of touch with most of middle America and they are leading in the polls against Trump? Trump has had huge successes as president (primarily the economy) and has had the economy Obama only dreamed about and he should be ahead in the polls substantially. 

                                LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

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                                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                                  The democrats have swung so far left I would think Trump would be a shoo in for 2020 yet all the polls have him behind substantially right now and it concerns me. With what the democrats have been proposing such as free healthcare for illegal immigrants, open borders. eliminating ICE, trillions of dollars wasted on a Green new deal that would destroy our economy and give us huge tax increases, anti 2a, abortions to fight climate change and on and on they are out of touch with most of middle America and they are leading in the polls against Trump? Trump has had huge successes as president (primarily the economy) and has had the economy Obama only dreamed about and he should be ahead in the polls substantially. 

                                  LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

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                                  @baconhound said:

                                  LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

                                  All Democrats At Main Debate Agree Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Care Coverage

                                  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/06/27/all_dem_candidates_raise_hand_when_asked_if_illegal_immigrants_should_get_health_care_coverage_at_debate.html

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                                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                                    The democrats have swung so far left I would think Trump would be a shoo in for 2020 yet all the polls have him behind substantially right now and it concerns me. With what the democrats have been proposing such as free healthcare for illegal immigrants, open borders. eliminating ICE, trillions of dollars wasted on a Green new deal that would destroy our economy and give us huge tax increases, anti 2a, abortions to fight climate change and on and on they are out of touch with most of middle America and they are leading in the polls against Trump? Trump has had huge successes as president (primarily the economy) and has had the economy Obama only dreamed about and he should be ahead in the polls substantially. 

                                    LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

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                                    @baconhound said:

                                    LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

                                    Democrats double down on open borders

                                    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/democrats-double-down-on-open-borders

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                                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                                      The democrats have swung so far left I would think Trump would be a shoo in for 2020 yet all the polls have him behind substantially right now and it concerns me. With what the democrats have been proposing such as free healthcare for illegal immigrants, open borders. eliminating ICE, trillions of dollars wasted on a Green new deal that would destroy our economy and give us huge tax increases, anti 2a, abortions to fight climate change and on and on they are out of touch with most of middle America and they are leading in the polls against Trump? Trump has had huge successes as president (primarily the economy) and has had the economy Obama only dreamed about and he should be ahead in the polls substantially. 

                                      LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

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                                      @baconhound said:

                                      LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

                                      These Democrats want to abolish ICE

                                      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/these-democrats-want-to-abolish-ice

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                                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                                        The democrats have swung so far left I would think Trump would be a shoo in for 2020 yet all the polls have him behind substantially right now and it concerns me. With what the democrats have been proposing such as free healthcare for illegal immigrants, open borders. eliminating ICE, trillions of dollars wasted on a Green new deal that would destroy our economy and give us huge tax increases, anti 2a, abortions to fight climate change and on and on they are out of touch with most of middle America and they are leading in the polls against Trump? Trump has had huge successes as president (primarily the economy) and has had the economy Obama only dreamed about and he should be ahead in the polls substantially. 

                                        LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

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                                        @baconhound said:

                                        LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

                                        2020 Democrats Find Unity in Targeting the Second Amendment: 6 Ways They Plan to Limit Gun-Owner Rights

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                                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                                          The democrats have swung so far left I would think Trump would be a shoo in for 2020 yet all the polls have him behind substantially right now and it concerns me. With what the democrats have been proposing such as free healthcare for illegal immigrants, open borders. eliminating ICE, trillions of dollars wasted on a Green new deal that would destroy our economy and give us huge tax increases, anti 2a, abortions to fight climate change and on and on they are out of touch with most of middle America and they are leading in the polls against Trump? Trump has had huge successes as president (primarily the economy) and has had the economy Obama only dreamed about and he should be ahead in the polls substantially. 

                                          LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

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                                          @baconhound said:

                                          LOL none of these things are true but keep being concerned.  And if by middle america you're speaking about geography then you may have a point

                                          Sanders Knocked for Comments Linking Abortion to Population Control

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