***Browns Vs. Titans Game Day Thread***
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Dorsey fucked the O line this year
Dorsey fucked the O line this year
Every Browns fan's mock draft next offseason is going to be OLine heavy.
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It’s one game, if we would’ve won some would think we’re Super bowl bound.
Let’s temper our expectations.
It’s one game, if we would’ve won some would think we’re Super bowl bound.
Let’s temper our expectations.
But it wasn't just our expectations. The national sports talkers had us doing great things...taking the division, playoffs, even a SB appearance.
Today was an embarrassment. We're talking 43-13, not 43-41.
For us to perform not much better today than we did the opener in 1999 made us a laughingstock once again.. Not listening to these sports talking heads this week for sure, fuck em.
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Fuckity fuck fuck fuckity fuck
Why don’t you pop another one lightweight? This is getting good.
Why don’t you pop another one lightweight? This is getting good.
There we go 4412. Welcome to the board.
You’re mana’s a man.
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It’s one game, if we would’ve won some would think we’re Super bowl bound.
Let’s temper our expectations.
But it wasn't just our expectations. The national sports talkers had us doing great things...taking the division, playoffs, even a SB appearance.
Today was an embarrassment. We're talking 43-13, not 43-41.
For us to perform not much better today than we did the opener in 1999 made us a laughingstock once again.. Not listening to these sports talking heads this week for sure, fuck em.
But it wasn't just our expectations. The national sports talkers had us doing great things...taking the division, playoffs, even a SB appearance.
Today was an embarrassment. We're talking 43-13, not 43-41.
For us to perform not much better today than we did the opener in 1999 made us a laughingstock once again.. Not listening to these sports talking heads this week for sure, fuck em.
There’s a lot of sport writers that have the Browns taking the AFC North this year BEFORE this game was ever played.
That’s a mighty big assumption for a team that hasn’t done squat, albeit the Browns look good on paper.
Unfortunately, looking good on paper doesn’t equate to wins.
Let’s just hope today’s shit show can be attributed to lack of chemistry.
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Plan and simple after the first score the refs stepped in and turned that game the calls where tic tac at beast why the nfl is targeting the Browns is beyond me
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So the refs made them miss tackles ,throw lousy, get run over, etc? BS.
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Did the refs suck? Yes
Did Baker suck? Yes
Did the D suck? Yes
Is this still our team? Do we still have talent? Can we overcome?
Does anyone here really believe this game is who we are?
I believe this game was our players believing the hype. Now it's down to business. Earn it, work for it, prevail.
Our season has just begun...TBD
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My fears for this team heading into this season...
- Interior Oline. Who looked OK today for the most part.
- Commitment to the running game. Which Freddie and Monken did a masterful job of shoving their heads up their own asses after the first drive.
- Having a coaching staff obsessed with their shiny toys. I.E. Baker, ODB, Landry, etc etc.
- Forgetting that this team and young QB (emphasis on young) is still at its best when they run the ball, setup playaction, the bootlegs, etc etc... then attack the short to intermediate field.
- A defense that was left on the field far too long
- A QB that, once you frustrate him, gets too far in his own head and starts throwing the ball pissed off. Leading to wild pitches that end up high and into DB's hands.
Some of these are scheme, others are mentality that aren't easily broken, if at all broken. Baker throwing that pick to Logan Ryan is InFuckingExcusable. Part of the Farve mentality I've mentioned on here a few times. Sure, you may get a big time throw here and there. But there will come a game when it fucks your WHOLE team over because you just haven't met a single throw you didn't like.
This team needs a serious Come-To-Jesus moment early. Style and Flash will never beat passion and substance. The Jets play quality defense and if this coaching staff doesn't respect the Williams Duo and tries to make Baker do it all, they will turn the ball over and they WILL lose.
Tennessee flat beat you at your own game today. They rode the hot hand of their bruising RB, forced the defense to consistently stop them. They setup their QB for success with play action, some high percentage throws and sprinkled in some creative screen looks. Thank Christ I took Henry in the 3rd round. Vrabel has a real weapon on his hands there. It was nothing short of a fucking clinic as to how the Browns SHOULD have played today.
Get this fixed early because this season is very dependent on getting off to a quality start. The back half of this schedule was pretty unforgiving and so far the 2 other AFCN teams looked pretty damn respectable.
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It was a real kick in the teeth getting blown out in our home opener against a team we were favored to beat. Did the Browns make a mistake selecting Kitchens over Williams as HC? The jury is still out but after the first game the Browns showed a serious lack of discipline something that Williams brought to the table.
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Disgusted? Yes I am.
I never coached FB, so here is my ignorant POV (and I won't even mention officiating as the entire league has to tolerate & overcome that)
1- Seems like we read our press clippings rather than taking this game seriously.
2- 18 penalties? ATROCIOUS, & it wasn't all the refs.
3- Damn near 70% of our plays were pass plays. We won't win in this league with that kind of imbalance.
4- From Freddie on down, they should ALL bend over, take a good swift kick in the ass, LEARN from this fiasco, blame ONLY themselves & come back with renewed focus, discipline, & determination. No finger pointing...OWN THIS BEATING!
Browns......It's time to MAN UP!
Mike
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It was a real kick in the teeth getting blown out in our home opener against a team we were favored to beat. Did the Browns make a mistake selecting Kitchens over Williams as HC? The jury is still out but after the first game the Browns showed a serious lack of discipline something that Williams brought to the table.
It was a real kick in the teeth getting blown out in our home opener against a team we were favored to beat. Did the Browns make a mistake selecting Kitchens over Williams as HC? The jury is still out but after the first game the Browns showed a serious lack of discipline something that Williams brought to the table.
You are right about the lack of discipline. This reflects poorly on the coaching staff. 18 penalties for 182 yards, the most since 1951?? WTH? I thought they were going to live up to the hype after the successful first series but thereafter it was a backwards slide to a dumpster fire. Baker was running for his life much like Tim Couch was, the last time there was such preseason hype about the Browns. It was a very disheartening day for this 70 year old Brown’s fan.
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That might’ve been the worst team performance Baker has been a part of from a coaching standpoint. It looked like he gave up, mentally..
Another penalty after the 1 play TD to Henry. Then started throwing INTs
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As far tempering my expectations (something I am told to do in this thread), I didn't expect to win (hoped but did not expect), but I also did not expect this embarrassing shitshow. No excuse for how the Browns showed up today. None.
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Plan and simple after the first score the refs stepped in and turned that game the calls where tic tac at beast why the nfl is targeting the Browns is beyond me
Plan and simple after the first score the refs stepped in and turned that game the calls where tic tac at beast why the nfl is targeting the Browns is beyond me
eh,,,,,,,,no.they are not.....
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It was a real kick in the teeth getting blown out in our home opener against a team we were favored to beat. Did the Browns make a mistake selecting Kitchens over Williams as HC? The jury is still out but after the first game the Browns showed a serious lack of discipline something that Williams brought to the table.
You are right about the lack of discipline. This reflects poorly on the coaching staff. 18 penalties for 182 yards, the most since 1951?? WTH? I thought they were going to live up to the hype after the successful first series but thereafter it was a backwards slide to a dumpster fire. Baker was running for his life much like Tim Couch was, the last time there was such preseason hype about the Browns. It was a very disheartening day for this 70 year old Brown’s fan.
You are right about the lack of discipline. This reflects poorly on the coaching staff. 18 penalties for 182 yards, the most since 1951?? WTH? I thought they were going to live up to the hype after the successful first series but thereafter it was a backwards slide to a dumpster fire. Baker was running for his life much like Tim Couch was, the last time there was such preseason hype about the Browns. It was a very disheartening day for this 70 year old Brown’s fan.
so far....same shit.....for 20 years now....piss poor undisipline play....i'm watching the pats pummel the squeelers....you want to talk about a disipline machine...man...it makes me sick that we can never play the way the pats do....looks like next monday is a must win already because we ain't beating the rams the following week...they better turn this crap around immediately...
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The main issue was lack of discipline (penalties) and it created 2 and 3rd and Longs most of the game which made the Browns one dimensional when the run game was doing pretty well.
Defensively, the Titans were severely limited by their Oline reshuffling and Tenn game planned perfectly to address it. The Browns took away most of the run game gave up chunk yards in spots when they were gassed but had no answer for play action...and many times the titans used the Browns pressure against them- screens. The Henry 75 yard TE pass was aided by block back hold whatever. I thought Tenn O vs Browns D. Advantage Tenn O coaching staff with their plan and out lack of adjustment
But I’m Not getting the Oline hate on here...The oline held up well Hubbard had his problems at times. Kush Tretter Botonio weren’t negatively mentioned...and all this after being placed in 2 and 3rd and Longs with the defense ears pinned back. TE play was awful- drops... holds. Collectively the TE group they all need to go this offseason.
i watched 4 other games this week and the Browns game was officiated tight Ticky tack as heck compared to the others. Anyway lesson learned hopefully send that official crew a gift basket they have their eye on us.
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Disgusted? Yes I am.
I never coached FB, so here is my ignorant POV (and I won't even mention officiating as the entire league has to tolerate & overcome that)
1- Seems like we read our press clippings rather than taking this game seriously.
2- 18 penalties? ATROCIOUS, & it wasn't all the refs.
3- Damn near 70% of our plays were pass plays. We won't win in this league with that kind of imbalance.
4- From Freddie on down, they should ALL bend over, take a good swift kick in the ass, LEARN from this fiasco, blame ONLY themselves & come back with renewed focus, discipline, & determination. No finger pointing...OWN THIS BEATING!
Browns......It's time to MAN UP!
Mike
Disgusted? Yes I am.
I never coached FB, so here is my ignorant POV (and I won't even mention officiating as the entire league has to tolerate & overcome that)
1- Seems like we read our press clippings rather than taking this game seriously.
2- 18 penalties? ATROCIOUS, & it wasn't all the refs.
3- Damn near 70% of our plays were pass plays. We won't win in this league with that kind of imbalance.
4- From Freddie on down, they should ALL bend over, take a good swift kick in the ass, LEARN from this fiasco, blame ONLY themselves & come back with renewed focus, discipline, & determination. No finger pointing...OWN THIS BEATING!
Browns......It's time to MAN UP!
Mike
i just don't think kitchens is going to be around very long...browns spent alot of moola to see this fail because of poor coaching....guys like landry and becham ain't going to put up with this shit very long...they will get their money, start bitching because of the losing and then get out of dodge....probably to new england.....heh heh
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Well, here's my take on it -
the Browns were taken out of their game by the oline, who got run over all too often, and other times lost their composure. Our LT gets shoved well after the play..no call. He puts his foot upside the guys head when the guy seems to be going for another cheap shot at him... he gets called, ejected.
Lamm goes in, and Hubbard moves from RT to LT. Hubbard had a bad game. OBJ gets held on a route, held and held, no call, then OBJ shoves him off him...and HE gets called for offensive interference.
One play, the Tenn olineman actually TACKLES a Browns rusher, no call.
etc etc, and stupid penalties that were all on a few players of the Browns.
to sum it up = the Browns offensive line was not ready for real NFL game time - the offense takes longer
to click.
The defense looks like one of the top defenses in the NFL, but a few players in the secondary got some signals crossed.
Adversity builds character - but the tackles have to play better. Draft new offensive tackles next draft. Baker got frustrated, beat up, had no time.
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My take. We had gotten back in this game until Henry's 75 yd. one play drive and then the panic button got pushed. Once you panic then you just mistake your way into a rout. Browns did exactly that.
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