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    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    There aren't many "do-overs" or Mulligan's in the real world -but- if there were:

    1. Would the BROWNS be 5.5 point favorites?

    2. Could the BROWNS win if they played again?

    And something else to think about will the BROWNS win on the road next week against the Jets?

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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      KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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      we dont look as bad as the steelers do

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        we dont look as bad as the steelers do

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        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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        @kvoethe said:

        we dont look as bad as the steelers do

        So far ........................................

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          There aren't many "do-overs" or Mulligan's in the real world -but- if there were:

          1. Would the BROWNS be 5.5 point favorites?

          2. Could the BROWNS win if they played again?

          And something else to think about will the BROWNS win on the road next week against the Jets?

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          jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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          @mjp28 said:

          There aren't many "do-overs" or Mulligan's in the real world -but- if there were:

          1. Would the BROWNS be 5.5 point favorites?

          2. Could the BROWNS win if they played again?

          And something else to think about will the BROWNS win on the road next week against the Jets?

          I've literally never seen a game like this before, and that team was not 30 points better. I wish to God we somehow get to the playoffs and play them. Please Jesus...one time. 

          18 penalties for 187 yards? I mean... 

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            @kvoethe said:

            we dont look as bad as the steelers do

            So far ........................................

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            mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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            @texasag1969 said:

            So far ........................................

            They still look bad. A Brady beatdown plus the Patriots defense looks good.

            GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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              @texasag1969 said:

              So far ........................................

              They still look bad. A Brady beatdown plus the Patriots defense looks good.

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              @mjp28 said:

              They still look bad. A Brady beatdown plus the Patriots defense looks good.

              Dallas looked pretty scary today too.

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                we dont look as bad as the steelers do

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                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                @kvoethe said:

                we dont look as bad as the steelers do

                The Titans on the road aren't the Patriots at home, though. 

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                  medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
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                  No need to panic til after next week Dawgs, If we put up a good solid fight and WIN against the J E T S then things should be ok, but if next week looks like the shit show we put on Today then you can buy tickets for 2 dollars for the remaining home games. GO BROWNS 

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                    No need to panic til after next week Dawgs, If we put up a good solid fight and WIN against the J E T S then things should be ok, but if next week looks like the shit show we put on Today then you can buy tickets for 2 dollars for the remaining home games. GO BROWNS 

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                    KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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                    @medicineman said:

                    No need to panic til after next week Dawgs, If we put up a good solid fight and WIN against the J E T S then things should be ok, but if next week looks like the shit show we put on Today then you can buy tickets for 2 dollars for the remaining home games. GO BROWNS 

                    So its a win win!!

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                      we dont look as bad as the steelers do

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      @kvoethe said:

                      we dont look as bad as the steelers do

                      Only form the standpoint that much of our pain was self-inflicted...

                      Then again the Steelers weren't playing the Titans... who I'll admit that I am likely still underestimating, but Dear God... the Pats looked awesome last nite...

                      ... and they add AB this week.

                      AB... Gordon... Edelman... Dorsett...with White in a five-WR spread... HTF do you stop that?

                      And then they get Watson back at TE...

                      The only weakness on the Pats is their pass rush... and scheme even managed to put pressure on Ben last nite...

                      BTW my BIG takeaway for our Steeler matchups??? Almost every time Ben had to move off his spot, the play was a dud... and when he runs I can catch him. He looks fat and old.

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                        KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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                        Ok....lets be real...hype got the better of us.

                        Things to change...

                        1.  Baker...quit worry about Giants and other peoples salaries. Shut up and play ball.

                        2.  Coach needs to toughen up..Not sure he was the right hire..gimme a few more games.

                        3.  Endzones were terrible looking.

                        4.  It takes 3 or 4 games to see what kind of team you have..really and truly.

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                          First drive looked as expected... Then they were getting stops,  and then once they started giving Titans 1st downs,  it unraveled fast.  

                          Looked unprepared and sloppy.  They don't look markedly better vs a lesser team like nyj,  it's panic time

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                            For his inaugural game as head coach, Freddie failed miserably in discipline, play calling and personnel. Why pass on 3rd and 1 with Nick Chubb in your backfield and if you're going to be aggressive might as well go for it on 4th down? Why was Genard Avery inactive while Chad Thomas played (didn't see a stat attributed to him or Olivier Vernon). To lose in this fashion with the most talented roster in years is an indictment of the coach and the GM who hired him. Bob Wylie may have been right after all.

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                              For his inaugural game as head coach, Freddie failed miserably in discipline, play calling and personnel. Why pass on 3rd and 1 with Nick Chubb in your backfield and if you're going to be aggressive might as well go for it on 4th down? Why was Genard Avery inactive while Chad Thomas played (didn't see a stat attributed to him or Olivier Vernon). To lose in this fashion with the most talented roster in years is an indictment of the coach and the GM who hired him. Bob Wylie may have been right after all.

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                              KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by Kvoethe
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                              @mddawg said:

                              For his inaugural game as head coach, Freddie failed miserably in discipline, play calling and personnel. Why pass on 3rd and 1 with Nick Chubb in your backfield and if you're going to be aggressive might as well go for it on 4th down? Why was Genard Avery inactive while Chad Thomas played (didn't see a stat attributed to him or Olivier Vernon). To lose in this fashion with the most talented roster in years is an indictment of the coach and the GM who hired him. Bob Wylie may have been right after all.

                              Why did mike tomlin kick a fg from the 1 yd line down 20 with 9 mins left in the 3rd?  All coaches do stupid stuff.

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                                @mddawg said:

                                For his inaugural game as head coach, Freddie failed miserably in discipline, play calling and personnel. Why pass on 3rd and 1 with Nick Chubb in your backfield and if you're going to be aggressive might as well go for it on 4th down? Why was Genard Avery inactive while Chad Thomas played (didn't see a stat attributed to him or Olivier Vernon). To lose in this fashion with the most talented roster in years is an indictment of the coach and the GM who hired him. Bob Wylie may have been right after all.

                                Why did mike tomlin kick a fg from the 1 yd line down 20 with 9 mins left in the 3rd?  All coaches do stupid stuff.

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                                @kvoethe said:

                                Why did mike tomlin kick a fg from the 1 yd line down 20 with 9 mins left in the 3rd?  All coaches do stupid stuff.

                                Stupid stuff versus a stupid gameplan are two different things. Derrick Henry is their only offensive weapon and what did Freddy do to stop him? We score a touchdown, stop the Titans and instead of running the ball and burn clock, start throwing again and give the ball back to the Titans. Mariota falls apart when playing from behind everyone but Freddie seems to know that.

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                                  Tomlin is known for his poor game management.. attacking his choices is shooting fish in a barrel.

                                  My main thought is: Buyer's remorse on Vernon.. I want Zeitler back.

                                  The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                                    Ok....lets be real...hype got the better of us.

                                    Things to change...

                                    1.  Baker...quit worry about Giants and other peoples salaries. Shut up and play ball.

                                    2.  Coach needs to toughen up..Not sure he was the right hire..gimme a few more games.

                                    3.  Endzones were terrible looking.

                                    4.  It takes 3 or 4 games to see what kind of team you have..really and truly.

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                                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                    @kvoethe said:

                                    3.  Endzones were terrible looking.

                                    Not high on my list, but I agree...

                                    @kvoethe said:

                                    Why did mike tomlin kick a fg from the 1 yd line down 20 with 9 mins left in the 3rd?

                                    To avert the shutout he saw coming.

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                                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                      The endzones were weird... Like they started painting them and then fell asleep and ran out of time to complete them.

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                                        @medicineman said:

                                        No need to panic til after next week Dawgs, If we put up a good solid fight and WIN against the J E T S then things should be ok, but if next week looks like the shit show we put on Today then you can buy tickets for 2 dollars for the remaining home games. GO BROWNS 

                                        So its a win win!!

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                                        medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
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                                        @kvoethe said:

                                        So its a win win!!

                                        something like that ya

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