***Browns Vs. Titans Game Day Thread***
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sorry, I'll just repost my post from the "panic mode" thread.
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sorry, I see that as wrong.Kitchens is the PERFECT coach to be Coach of the Browns. The players fought for a half, it was close - but game time is different - timing is different - and the Teets played like they were po'd at the attention and hype the Browns have been getting. and their defense
As far as "over-hyped"...sure...that is what the media does. But the changes to the Browns and their success the last third of last season does deserve some serious attention.
The Kardiac Kids, 1980, lost the first two games of their season. They ended up 11-6. Even week 12, they got hammered by the bungles.
The Browns lost their composure - the defense was being held like crazy, and the offense was being overrun. And don't anybody tell me there weren't non-calls and calls that benefitted the teets. The OPI on OBJ was a huge example. Their oline got away with a lot of crap that should have been called. Not so much on the Browns offensive line. I'm just sayin what I'm seein. Our LT Robinson got shoved down well after the play was over, NO CALL. The teet that shoved him seemed to be going after him again, and Robinson got po'd and put his foot up to his head to stop him, still on the ground, immediate call of UC and ejection of Robinson.
There are different examples the Browns suffer this crap. I believe some other teams see it, and bait the Browns, some of the Browns don't handle it well.
That will change.
Anyways...in 1980, the Browns went 11-6, but lost their first two games. And their first game they got hammered by the Patriots.
It's a long season. We'll see how it goes, but judging by the first game is just not valid. I'm concerned about the oline, but still, the Browns didn't have one of the best olines back then either. They will adapt.
1 September 7, 1980 at New England Patriots L 34–17 49,222 0–1 2 September 15, 1980 Houston Oilers L 16–7 80,243 0–2 3 September 21, 1980 Kansas City Chiefs W 20–13 63,614 1–2 4 September 28, 1980 at Tampa Bay Buccaneers W 34–27 65,540 2–2 5 October 5, 1980 Denver Broncos L 19–16 81,065 2–3 6 October 12, 1980 at Seattle Seahawks W 27–3 61,366 3–3 7 October 19, 1980 Green Bay Packers W 26–21 75,548 4–3 8 October 26, 1980 Pittsburgh Steelers W 27–26 79,095 5–3 9 November 3, 1980 Chicago Bears W 27–21 84,225 6–3 10 November 9, 1980 at Baltimore Colts W 28–27 45,369 7–3 11 November 16, 1980 at Pittsburgh Steelers L 16–13 54,563 7–4 12 November 23, 1980 Cincinnati Bengals W 31–7 79,253 8–4 13 November 30, 1980 at Houston Oilers W 17–14 51,514 9–4 14 December 7, 1980 New York Jets W 17–14 78,454 10–4 15 December 14, 1980 at Minnesota Vikings L 28–23 42,202 10–5 16 December 21, 1980 at Cincinnati Bengals W 27–24 50,058 11–5 -
I get as upset as anyone at the bad officiating in the NFL and the Browns seem to get more than their share of bad calls but it is something all the NFL teams have to deal with and I won't use it as an excuse for losing. The good teams learn to deal with it and overcome it and that is what we must do and not lose our composure when it happens but to stay disciplined and focused.
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As I pointed out way back when I wanted us to take Henry, he has those long strides that fool you into thinking he is slow, but like Eric Dickerson's similar running gait, that just isn't the case. He's very fast when into 6th gear. He fools you into taking wrong angles and that's what we did. Up until that play I was fine with how we had contained him compared to the potential. But he is very dangerous in the second half when you get a little sloppy when tired. Vrabel knows exactly what he has in Henry. His previous HC never understood it.
We didn't take any wrong angles on that play. No one had an angle to get to him because outside of the linebacker who got put on the ground Greedy was the only player on that half of the field and he was blocked. Henry is a solid back, but your infatuation with him is something else lol. I'll take chubb 10 times out of 10. We just need to not get behind the sticks because of penalties and give him the ball some more.
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Calfox said it best, the refs are a lame excuse but it was evident the Tits weren’t getting nearly as fucked on calls as the browns were. 20 penalties is ridiculous when the other team had only 3
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Calfox said it best, the refs are a lame excuse but it was evident the Tits weren’t getting nearly as fucked on calls as the browns were. 20 penalties is ridiculous when the other team had only 3
Calfox said it best, the refs are a lame excuse but it was evident the Tits weren’t getting nearly as fucked on calls as the browns were. 20 penalties is ridiculous when the other team had only 3
Not if your team keeps fucking up badly. And they were.
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Youth and chemistry. We have youth, we don’t have chemistry. It will take some time. New players in a new scheme together. It ain’t that simple.
Lets not all blame Kitchens now ?
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I have to say that what infuriated me the most was Baker holding the ball too long. Some of the sacks were well beyond 3-4 seconds after the snap. I don't know if had to do with the playcalls and the routes being too long (thats a Hueish mistake) or him playing the hero.
I also noticed how he almost exclusively played under center when we ran the ball, and even in some empty backfield formations from the shotgun.
I said it before the game and I still think the same. The more we balance our offense between rushes and passes, the more we will succeed, as we got weapons for both those playing styles and no defense can cover them both simultaneously.
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Calfox said it best, the refs are a lame excuse but it was evident the Tits weren’t getting nearly as fucked on calls as the browns were. 20 penalties is ridiculous when the other team had only 3
Not if your team keeps fucking up badly. And they were.
Not if your team keeps fucking up badly. And they were.
stop blaming the fucking refs....our team deserved a high percentage of those calls.....they sucked....end of story...fucking players kicking the opposition in the head...guess that was a b ad call also....the only call i saw that was bad was the qb sack on baker as he was not nearly in the grasp...they could have even called more penalties on the clowns...i saw them get away with some that were not called.on top of the ones that were....the coaches deserve alot of blame for a hugh lack of discipline...hugh lack of....
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This is about the most apt representation of fans emotions from kickoff until that Henry throwback screen.
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Calfox said it best, the refs are a lame excuse but it was evident the Tits weren’t getting nearly as fucked on calls as the browns were. 20 penalties is ridiculous when the other team had only 3
Calfox said it best, the refs are a lame excuse but it was evident the Tits weren’t getting nearly as fucked on calls as the browns were. 20 penalties is ridiculous when the other team had only 3
One team was prepared.
One team was not.
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Correct Dutch. Kitchens is at fault for that
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Calfox said it best, the refs are a lame excuse but it was evident the Tits weren’t getting nearly as fucked on calls as the browns were. 20 penalties is ridiculous when the other team had only 3
One team was prepared.
One team was not.
One team was prepared.
One team was not.
One team was doing an awful lot of commercials, promotions and online stuff.
I guess we will find out Monday night who is ready to get their heads back into football.
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One team was prepared.
One team was not.
One team was doing an awful lot of commercials, promotions and online stuff.
I guess we will find out Monday night who is ready to get their heads back into football.
One team was doing an awful lot of commercials, promotions and online stuff.
I guess we will find out Monday night who is ready to get their heads back into football.
But BAKER IS THE COOLEST BECAUSE HE SHOTGUNNED A BEER! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ?
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I have to say that what infuriated me the most was Baker holding the ball too long. Some of the sacks were well beyond 3-4 seconds after the snap. I don't know if had to do with the playcalls and the routes being too long (thats a Hueish mistake) or him playing the hero.
I also noticed how he almost exclusively played under center when we ran the ball, and even in some empty backfield formations from the shotgun.
I said it before the game and I still think the same. The more we balance our offense between rushes and passes, the more we will succeed, as we got weapons for both those playing styles and no defense can cover them both simultaneously.
I have to say that what infuriated me the most was Baker holding the ball too long. Some of the sacks were well beyond 3-4 seconds after the snap. I don't know if had to do with the playcalls and the routes being too long (thats a Hueish mistake) or him playing the hero.
I also noticed how he almost exclusively played under center when we ran the ball, and even in some empty backfield formations from the shotgun.
I said it before the game and I still think the same. The more we balance our offense between rushes and passes, the more we will succeed, as we got weapons for both those playing styles and no defense can cover them both simultaneously.
Playing calling and coaching are Baker's best friend but he doesn't always listen
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Two points:
1. TN was much more physical than we were.
2. After Williams took over as HC last year, the stupid penalties decreased dramatically. Not saying that we shouldn't have hired Kitchens---not saying after one game that Kitchens must be fired---just stating a simple fact: under Williams on-field discipline improved and the stupid, constant shoot-yourself-in-the-foot-defense-can't-get-off-the-fucking-field-on-third-down moronic penalties largely went away. Freddie has to get a handle on this---fast.
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