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WEEK 2 - BROWNS 2.5 point early favorite at the NY Jets week 2 & a brief history of MNF!

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  • CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
    #5

    We’re still a 7-9 or 0-1 ball club.

    Must win game vs Jets.

    Reduce mistakes=Win

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    That's absolutely crazy. We looked cataclysmic today in virtually every aspect of the game, and while it's only one game, what makes people think we're actually a decent team? Penalties don't just go away, and we're in total deep shit right now. I can't imagine we'd be favored on the road, but hey, you never know. Jets game can't get here soon enough. 

    Probably helps that the Jets lost to Buffalo...

    At 46 that O/U looks like a lock.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #6

    @tour2ma said:

    Probably helps that the Jets lost to Buffalo...

    At 46 that O/U looks like a lock.

    At 46 a lock which way?

    And I have a feeling that the stars will shine on MNF!  The BROWNS have some stars.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Probably helps that the Jets lost to Buffalo...

    At 46 that O/U looks like a lock.

    At 46 a lock which way?

    And I have a feeling that the stars will shine on MNF!  The BROWNS have some stars.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #7

    @mjp28 said:

    At 46 a lock which way?

    lol... that would help make my point wouldn't it...

    under... of course...

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
    #8

    After that debacle, on the road and favored. The Gods must be insane or the yets are really bad

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #9

    Monday's lines, the first line is the opening line, second is the vi consensus, the following lines are various Vegas books.  http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas

    A few books have the BROWNS at -3 and the O/U is drifting toward 45.......FWIW

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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #10

    I remember the ABC MNF beginning well it was my second year in college and became a national event.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Monday_Night_Football#Cosell,_Jackson,_and_Meredith

    ......An early bid by the league in 1964 to play on Friday nights was soundly defeated, with critics charging that such telecasts would damage the attendance at high school football games. Undaunted, Rozelle decided to experiment with the concept of playing on Monday night, scheduling the Green Bay Packers and Detroit Lions for a game on September 28, 1964. While the game was not televised, it drew a sellout crowd of 59,203 spectators to Tiger Stadium, the largest crowd ever to watch a professional football game in Detroit up to that point.

    Two years later, Rozelle would build on this success as the NFL began a four-year experiment of playing on Monday night, scheduling one game in prime time on CBS during the 1966 and 1967 seasons, and two contests during each of the next two years. NBC followed suit in 1968 and 1969 with games involving American Football League teams.

    Monday Night Football first aired on ABC on September 21, 1970, with a game between the New York Jets and the Browns in Cleveland. Advertisers were charged US$65,000 per minute by ABC during the clash, a cost that proved to be a bargain when the contest collected 33% of the viewing audience. The Browns defeated the Jets, 31-21 in a game which featured a 94-yard kickoff return for a touchdown by the Browns' Homer Jones and was punctuated when Billy Andrews intercepted Joe Namath late in the fourth quarter and returned it 25 yards for the clinching touchdown. However, Cleveland viewers saw different programming on WEWS-TV, because of the NFL's blackout rules of the time (this would apply for all games through the end of the 1972 season; beginning in 1973, home games could be televised if tickets were sold out 72 hours before kickoff)........... continued........

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
    #11

    I think the worry on this game is that GW is going to do what he can to make the Browns lose their composure early and often. He knows the team and what buttons to push. 

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #12

    How many of you remember the very first ABC MNF game verses the Namath led Super Bowl champion NEW YORK JETS and our CLEVELAND BROWNS?

    Namath was starting to show his years and the battered up knees but still hung around for awhile and the BROWNS fans packed the Old Muni with upwards of 80,000 fans and were still considered contenders and a top 5 NFL team.

    It was quite a time in football and American history.

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  • I think the worry on this game is that GW is going to do what he can to make the Browns lose their composure early and often. He knows the team and what buttons to push. 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I think the worry on this game is that GW is going to do what he can to make the Browns lose their composure early and often. He knows the team and what buttons to push. 

    Maybe he'll send in a 3rd string sacrificial lamb to play dirty on Garrett or Robinson to see if he can get them to do something stupid.

  • I think the worry on this game is that GW is going to do what he can to make the Browns lose their composure early and often. He knows the team and what buttons to push. 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I think the worry on this game is that GW is going to do what he can to make the Browns lose their composure early and often. He knows the team and what buttons to push. 

    And Gregg's worry is that CJ got dinged Week 1...

  • That's absolutely crazy. We looked cataclysmic today in virtually every aspect of the game, and while it's only one game, what makes people think we're actually a decent team? Penalties don't just go away, and we're in total deep shit right now. I can't imagine we'd be favored on the road, but hey, you never know. Jets game can't get here soon enough. 

    B browns52 wrote on last edited by
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    @jiggins7919 said:

    That's absolutely crazy. We looked cataclysmic today in virtually every aspect of the game, and while it's only one game, what makes people think we're actually a decent team? Penalties don't just go away, and we're in total deep shit right now. I can't imagine we'd be favored on the road, but hey, you never know. Jets game can't get here soon enough. 

    jets suck too, by 2.5 points....thats why....

  • How many of you remember the very first ABC MNF game verses the Namath led Super Bowl champion NEW YORK JETS and our CLEVELAND BROWNS?

    Namath was starting to show his years and the battered up knees but still hung around for awhile and the BROWNS fans packed the Old Muni with upwards of 80,000 fans and were still considered contenders and a top 5 NFL team.

    It was quite a time in football and American history.

    Screenshot_2019-09-10_072128.jpg

    B browns52 wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @mjp28 said:

    How many of you remember the very first ABC MNF game verses the Namath led Super Bowl champion NEW YORK JETS and our CLEVELAND BROWNS?

    Namath was starting to show his years and the battered up knees but still hung around for awhile and the BROWNS fans packed the Old Muni with upwards of 80,000 fans and were still considered contenders and a top 5 NFL team.

    It was quite a time in football and American history.

    Screenshot_2019-09-10_072128.jpg

    leroy kelly baby....the good ol days....

  • How many of you remember the very first ABC MNF game verses the Namath led Super Bowl champion NEW YORK JETS and our CLEVELAND BROWNS?

    Namath was starting to show his years and the battered up knees but still hung around for awhile and the BROWNS fans packed the Old Muni with upwards of 80,000 fans and were still considered contenders and a top 5 NFL team.

    It was quite a time in football and American history.

    Screenshot_2019-09-10_072128.jpg

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @mjp28 said:

    How many of you remember the very first ABC MNF game verses the Namath led Super Bowl champion NEW YORK JETS and our CLEVELAND BROWNS?

    Namath was starting to show his years and the battered up knees but still hung around for awhile and the BROWNS fans packed the Old Muni with upwards of 80,000 fans and were still considered contenders and a top 5 NFL team.

    It was quite a time in football and American history.

    Screenshot_2019-09-10_072128.jpg

    One of the many historic Browns games I can say I was in the stands for.....  

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #18

    I remember watching the game at home.  I was 16.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    That's absolutely crazy. We looked cataclysmic today in virtually every aspect of the game, and while it's only one game, what makes people think we're actually a decent team? Penalties don't just go away, and we're in total deep shit right now. I can't imagine we'd be favored on the road, but hey, you never know. Jets game can't get here soon enough. 

    jets suck too, by 2.5 points....thats why....

    jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
    #19

    @browns52 said:

    jets suck too, by 2.5 points....thats why....

    The Jets remind me very much of the Titans, but likely a poor man's version. They're going to ugly the game up, create turnovers, and keep it close. Both teams are literally in a must win situation to save their seasons, and our schedule doesn't get much easier. 

    Now, I'm NOT going to be the "sky is falling" fan. Nobody likes that guy (believe me, I know), but I will say that we've got huge problems on our OL, and I don't trust our kicker. We're going to have to win a close game, as I don't see a way to score a bunch of points like so many predicted before the season. The penalties won't go away and we know Greg Robinson is targeted by the officials. We legitimately struggle in pass protection, and we had 3 designed deep shots last game with an open OBJ streaking down the field but Baker didn't have time to cut it loose. 

    Did anybody see the first half of the Raiders' game? THAT'S how you pass block. Our offense won't move the ball if we can't block, and Hubbard is absolutely killing us. Can we turn it all around? Of course, it's ONE game, but damn it all if it didn't feel like more. We royally shit the sheets at HOME and worst of all, we lost our composure and quit. It's very frustrating when it seems like every penalty is going against you, and the Titans got just about every break, but you can't lose it like that. It's unacceptable and they should have apologized to the fans. 

    Obviously I'm not giving up on the team or any crap like that, but we have real problems that need to be fixed quickly. In a way, this loss could be the best thing to happen us. It might completely refocus us and show us just how hard we have to work. It's going to be such a long week, but if we can't figure out how to protect Baker, he's going to get hurt and that's going to be that. 

  • I remember watching the game at home.  I was 16.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I remember watching the game at home.  I was 16.

    One week before my 20th birthday, watched it at Tony's Hideaway bar by the YSU campus at the auxillary bar with TV they set up to watch the game.  Great times.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I remember watching the game at home.  I was 16.

    One week before my 20th birthday, watched it at Tony's Hideaway bar by the YSU campus at the auxillary bar with TV they set up to watch the game.  Great times.

    jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @mjp28 said:

    One week before my 20th birthday, watched it at Tony's Hideaway bar by the YSU campus at the auxillary bar with TV they set up to watch the game.  Great times.

    I love hearing about these old memories. My dad and uncle told me they had to drive out of town to get a hotel room for the Browns last championship game because it was blacked out. Crazy! 

    I kind of think this game being on a Monday doesn't really do us any favors. You KNOW we're chomping at the bit to get back out there, and this also gives two major Jet players time to get healthy. I don't know if you saw their game, but everything changed when star LB CJ Mosley went out. His injury isn't serious, but his availability is up in the air. I would BET he'll play just knowing him, but if he doesn't, that is a crushing blow to them. 

  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
    #22

    Sam Darnold is a surprise "out" against us Monday Night with mono. Spread is sure to move our way a bit more. Trevor Siemian is their back-up.

  • Sam Darnold is a surprise "out" against us Monday Night with mono. Spread is sure to move our way a bit more. Trevor Siemian is their back-up.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #23

    @jrb12711 said:

    Sam Darnold is a surprise "out" against us Monday Night with mono. Spread is sure to move our way a bit more. Trevor Siemian is their back-up.

    Also Le'Veon Bell getting an MRI on his shoulder.

  • Sam Darnold is a surprise "out" against us Monday Night with mono. Spread is sure to move our way a bit more. Trevor Siemian is their back-up.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #24

    @jrb12711 said:

    Sam Darnold is a surprise "out" against us Monday Night with mono. Spread is sure to move our way a bit more. Trevor Siemian is their back-up.

    Just in one book I saw has jumped it to CLE -6.5 and dropped the O/U to 42.5.

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