Panic mode
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^^^ this.
Panic mode starts at 0-4.
Serious question:
If the Browns lose next Monday night and are sitting at 0-2, with the Rams coming into town next, could panic mode start then?
It will be ugly if they lose vs the Jets.
The Jets with Gregg Williams leading their defense. Think he'll be somewhat motivated? ?
Serious question:
If the Browns lose next Monday night and are sitting at 0-2, with the Rams coming into town next, could panic mode start then?
It will be ugly if they lose vs the Jets.
The Jets with Gregg Williams leading their defense. Think he'll be somewhat motivated? ?
OTOH, think the Browns won't be motivated after laying that humongous egg in the opener? I pointed out earlier- it wasn't play that killed the Browns, it was a historic amount of penalty yardage.
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For all you "no hope left" fans. After all, one game DOES a season make!
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
??? some of you guys are more dramatic than soccer players. Panic mode? No wait FULL BLOWN PANIC MODE. Hahaha. Game 1. If you fell for that hype that's on you.
??? some of you guys are more dramatic than soccer players. Panic mode? No wait FULL BLOWN PANIC MODE. Hahaha. Game 1. If you fell for that hype that's on you.
This wasn't just a loss. This was the first impression of the 2019 Cleveland Browns. You know...the new media darlings with all the talent in the world. The new coach, promoted from rb coach, skipping over several steps to become the new HC of the new, improved, playoffs bound Browns. The changing of the losing culture,..blah, blah, blah. We played better with much less talent last season. I don't blame the offense that much. Mayfield was bringing the team back until the 75 yard TD by the Titans. That was the final nail in the coffin. Where was the defense on that play? No where near the action...that's for sure. Buying into the hype of having a winning season for once? Yeah...I'm guilty. Damn I'm gullible!
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The Browns O line was back at practice today trying to rectify things
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The Browns O line was back at practice today trying to rectify things
And therein lies the problem of the Browns. It's not like a few commentators didn't understand that if you are still desperately shopping for a RG that late in preseason, then you just might have a major problem. It did not help at all for Robinson to get himself ejected either.
What we needed in the off-season was the anti-Ghoolie who would have told us how important quality OLs are to have in the NFL. That old saying "lines win football" in plural for a reason.
BTW Houston understood it enough to get get one late in the summer. It paid off despite losing to a record career long FG by NO last night. Now that was one hellofa game. Very worthy of MNF. Here's hoping ours will be this coming week.
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For all you "no hope left" fans. After all, one game DOES a season make!
Mike
For all you "no hope left" fans. After all, one game DOES a season make!
They can call the "Helpline"...
... the number is "BR-549"...
Very worthy of MNF.
Excepting Romeo's D-call on the next to last play. What was up with that?
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For all you "no hope left" fans. After all, one game DOES a season make!
They can call the "Helpline"...
... the number is "BR-549"...
Very worthy of MNF.
Excepting Romeo's D-call on the next to last play. What was up with that?
Excepting Romeo's D-call on the next to last play. What was up with that?
Easy peasy. From the world of physics that would be referred to as Brownian Motion. ( Brownian motion or pedesis (from Ancient Greek: πήδησις /pέːdεːsis/ "leaping") is the random motion of particles suspended in a fluid). So obviously it's fluid on the brain leftover from Cleveland days.??
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Discipline... or lack there of starts at the top... What I saw last Sunday were a bunch of over hyped boys who have none (Discipline).. That starts with Freddie... Gregg Williams had some.... This looks ugly boys.. I like Freddie and all.. But if this shit show keeps up.. He'll be another casualty of ignorance..
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That's where I'm at....full blown panic mode. Our team has been over hyped since last season. After watching that huge implosion yesterday, I can only speculate why this looks so bad. I didn't think we had excessive penalties in preseason. I put most of the blame on Freddie Kitchens. When a team of very good players looks like that, the HC is responsible. I really wanted Greg Williams to be retained as the new HC for this season. Freddie seems like a good guy, with a lot of potential, but to see the players respond this way...well, I have my doubts about him as a good head coach. I know it's only one game, but it was disgusting. Dorsey needs to find a quality LT and put together an o line. If not, Mayfield will never make it to the bye week.
sorry, I see that as wrong.Kitchens is the PERFECT coach to be Coach of the Browns. The players fought for a half, it was close - but game time is different - timing is different - and the Teets played like they were po'd at the attention and hype the Browns have been getting. and their defense
As far as "over-hyped"...sure...that is what the media does. But the changes to the Browns and their success the last third of last season does deserve some serious attention.
The Kardiac Kids, 1980, lost the first two games of their season. They ended up 11-6. Even week 12, they got hammered by the bungles.
The Browns lost their composure - the defense was being held like crazy, and the offense was being overrun. And don't anybody tell me there weren't non-calls and calls that benefitted the teets. The OPI on OBJ was a huge example. Their oline got away with a lot of crap that should have been called. Not so much on the Browns offensive line. I'm just sayin what I'm seein. Our LT Robinson got shoved down well after the play was over, NO CALL. The teet that shoved him seemed to be going after him again, and Robinson got po'd and put his foot up to his head to stop him, still on the ground, immediate call of UC and ejection of Robinson.
There are different examples the Browns suffer this crap. I believe some other teams see it, and bait the Browns, some of the Browns don't handle it well.
That will change.
Anyways...in 1980, the Browns went 11-6, but lost their first two games. And their first game they got hammered by the Patriots.
It's a long season. We'll see how it goes, but judging by the first game is just not valid. I'm concerned about the oline, but still, the Browns didn't have one of the best olines back then either. They will adapt.
1 September 7, 1980 at New England Patriots L 34–17 49,222 0–1 2 September 15, 1980 Houston Oilers L 16–7 80,243 0–2 3 September 21, 1980 Kansas City Chiefs W 20–13 63,614 1–2 4 September 28, 1980 at Tampa Bay Buccaneers W 34–27 65,540 2–2 5 October 5, 1980 Denver Broncos L 19–16 81,065 2–3 6 October 12, 1980 at Seattle Seahawks W 27–3 61,366 3–3 7 October 19, 1980 Green Bay Packers W 26–21 75,548 4–3 8 October 26, 1980 Pittsburgh Steelers W 27–26 79,095 5–3 9 November 3, 1980 Chicago Bears W 27–21 84,225 6–3 10 November 9, 1980 at Baltimore Colts W 28–27 45,369 7–3 11 November 16, 1980 at Pittsburgh Steelers L 16–13 54,563 7–4 12 November 23, 1980 Cincinnati Bengals W 31–7 79,253 8–4 13 November 30, 1980 at Houston Oilers W 17–14 51,514 9–4 14 December 7, 1980 New York Jets W 17–14 78,454 10–4 15 December 14, 1980 at Minnesota Vikings L 28–23 42,202 10–5 16 December 21, 1980 at Cincinnati Bengals W 27–24 50,058 11–5 sorry, I see that as wrong.Kitchens is the PERFECT coach to be Coach of the Browns. The players fought for a half, it was close - but game time is different - timing is different - and the Teets played like they were po'd at the attention and hype the Browns have been getting. and their defense
As far as "over-hyped"...sure...that is what the media does. But the changes to the Browns and their success the last third of last season does deserve some serious attention.
The Kardiac Kids, 1980, lost the first two games of their season. They ended up 11-6. Even week 12, they got hammered by the bungles.
The Browns lost their composure - the defense was being held like crazy, and the offense was being overrun. And don't anybody tell me there weren't non-calls and calls that benefitted the teets. The OPI on OBJ was a huge example. Their oline got away with a lot of crap that should have been called. Not so much on the Browns offensive line. I'm just sayin what I'm seein. Our LT Robinson got shoved down well after the play was over, NO CALL. The teet that shoved him seemed to be going after him again, and Robinson got po'd and put his foot up to his head to stop him, still on the ground, immediate call of UC and ejection of Robinson.
There are different examples the Browns suffer this crap. I believe some other teams see it, and bait the Browns, some of the Browns don't handle it well.
That will change.
Anyways...in 1980, the Browns went 11-6, but lost their first two games. And their first game they got hammered by the Patriots.
It's a long season. We'll see how it goes, but judging by the first game is just not valid. I'm concerned about the oline, but still, the Browns didn't have one of the best olines back then either. They will adapt.
1 September 7, 1980 at New England Patriots L 34–17 49,222 0–1 2 September 15, 1980 Houston Oilers L 16–7 80,243 0–2 3 September 21, 1980 Kansas City Chiefs W 20–13 63,614 1–2 4 September 28, 1980 at Tampa Bay Buccaneers W 34–27 65,540 2–2 5 October 5, 1980 Denver Broncos L 19–16 81,065 2–3 6 October 12, 1980 at Seattle Seahawks W 27–3 61,366 3–3 7 October 19, 1980 Green Bay Packers W 26–21 75,548 4–3 8 October 26, 1980 Pittsburgh Steelers W 27–26 79,095 5–3 9 November 3, 1980 Chicago Bears W 27–21 84,225 6–3 10 November 9, 1980 at Baltimore Colts W 28–27 45,369 7–3 11 November 16, 1980 at Pittsburgh Steelers L 16–13 54,563 7–4 12 November 23, 1980 Cincinnati Bengals W 31–7 79,253 8–4 13 November 30, 1980 at Houston Oilers W 17–14 51,514 9–4 14 December 7, 1980 New York Jets W 17–14 78,454 10–4 15 December 14, 1980 at Minnesota Vikings L 28–23 42,202 10–5 16 December 21, 1980 at Cincinnati Bengals W 27–24 50,058 11–5 i remember that vikings game...i think we lost that one on a hail mary from kramer to rashad....and then we were down 14 zip to the bengals the last game of the season before we came back....i recall ricky feature having a big game and cockfroft kicked the winning fg...
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Kitchens should never have been hired as HC. He should have remained as OC.
Kitchens should never have been hired as HC. He should have remained as OC.
ya you have said that over a 100 times we get it
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Kitchens should never have been hired as HC. He should have remained as OC.
ya you have said that over a 100 times we get it
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Freddie has not done anything yet to show that he should not be a HC.
Would some of us have called a few plays differently? Well, that's true of any game of any team we've ever watched. He wasn't making glaringly bad play-calls. (of course, we have a sample set of one measly game)
Now, did some of our penalty problem stem from that first practice with the Colts? After which Freddie read the team the riot act about not letting anybody impose their will on you. All along Freddie has stressed that he wants the team to be tough. Perhaps now he has to stress the 'being smart' part of the equation.
He's a 1st year HC. I like his mind-set. Let's give him the chance to go to bed this week and reflect on the game and on things that he might do differently next time. In Other Words, let's give him some time to be a 1st year HC. (or at least until he starts calling for 60 yard FG's with Devon Hester waiting in the end zone like Pettine......or calling TO befitting the opponent like Hue)
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Freddie has not done anything yet to show that he should not be a HC.
Would some of us have called a few plays differently? Well, that's true of any game of any team we've ever watched. He wasn't making glaringly bad play-calls. (of course, we have a sample set of one measly game)
Now, did some of our penalty problem stem from that first practice with the Colts? After which Freddie read the team the riot act about not letting anybody impose their will on you. All along Freddie has stressed that he wants the team to be tough. Perhaps now he has to stress the 'being smart' part of the equation.
He's a 1st year HC. I like his mind-set. Let's give him the chance to go to bed this week and reflect on the game and on things that he might do differently next time. In Other Words, let's give him some time to be a 1st year HC. (or at least until he starts calling for 60 yard FG's with Devon Hester waiting in the end zone like Pettine......or calling TO befitting the opponent like Hue)
Freddie has not done anything yet to show that he should not be a HC.
Would some of us have called a few plays differently? Well, that's true of any game of any team we've ever watched. He wasn't making glaringly bad play-calls. (of course, we have a sample set of one measly game)
Now, did some of our penalty problem stem from that first practice with the Colts? After which Freddie read the team the riot act about not letting anybody impose their will on you. All along Freddie has stressed that he wants the team to be tough. Perhaps now he has to stress the 'being smart' part of the equation.
He's a 1st year HC. I like his mind-set. Let's give him the chance to go to bed this week and reflect on the game and on things that he might do differently next time. In Other Words, let's give him some time to be a 1st year HC. (or at least until he starts calling for 60 yard FG's with Devon Hester waiting in the end zone like Pettine......or calling TO befitting the opponent like Hue)
Bullshit.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
??? some of you guys are more dramatic than soccer players. Panic mode? No wait FULL BLOWN PANIC MODE. Hahaha. Game 1. If you fell for that hype that's on you.
This wasn't just a loss. This was the first impression of the 2019 Cleveland Browns. You know...the new media darlings with all the talent in the world. The new coach, promoted from rb coach, skipping over several steps to become the new HC of the new, improved, playoffs bound Browns. The changing of the losing culture,..blah, blah, blah. We played better with much less talent last season. I don't blame the offense that much. Mayfield was bringing the team back until the 75 yard TD by the Titans. That was the final nail in the coffin. Where was the defense on that play? No where near the action...that's for sure. Buying into the hype of having a winning season for once? Yeah...I'm guilty. Damn I'm gullible!
This wasn't just a loss. This was the first impression of the 2019 Cleveland Browns. You know...the new media darlings with all the talent in the world. The new coach, promoted from rb coach, skipping over several steps to become the new HC of the new, improved, playoffs bound Browns. The changing of the losing culture,..blah, blah, blah. We played better with much less talent last season. I don't blame the offense that much. Mayfield was bringing the team back until the 75 yard TD by the Titans. That was the final nail in the coffin. Where was the defense on that play? No where near the action...that's for sure. Buying into the hype of having a winning season for once? Yeah...I'm guilty. Damn I'm gullible!
If you care what the media says then you're absolutely right but the loss is on you. Who gives a shit what the media thinks. It's a loss. Browns fans should already know how to lose. Get over it. Week 2 coming. Nobody told you to set your expectations that high. Put a quarter in your ass... you played yourself.
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Freddie has not done anything yet to show that he should not be a HC.
Would some of us have called a few plays differently? Well, that's true of any game of any team we've ever watched. He wasn't making glaringly bad play-calls. (of course, we have a sample set of one measly game)
Now, did some of our penalty problem stem from that first practice with the Colts? After which Freddie read the team the riot act about not letting anybody impose their will on you. All along Freddie has stressed that he wants the team to be tough. Perhaps now he has to stress the 'being smart' part of the equation.
He's a 1st year HC. I like his mind-set. Let's give him the chance to go to bed this week and reflect on the game and on things that he might do differently next time. In Other Words, let's give him some time to be a 1st year HC. (or at least until he starts calling for 60 yard FG's with Devon Hester waiting in the end zone like Pettine......or calling TO befitting the opponent like Hue)
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
...the stressed out Wall St. business man took off to learn the meaning of life. He heard of an all knowing soothsayer. He traveled to his native land and hired a guide to take him up the mountains and to his cave where he humbly dwelt. The guide was about to go in to listen but the soothsayer was escorting the man out stating, "You're never going to understand the meaning of life until you stop saying BULLSHIT to everything I say".
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Freddie has not done anything yet to show that he should not be a HC.
Would some of us have called a few plays differently? Well, that's true of any game of any team we've ever watched. He wasn't making glaringly bad play-calls. (of course, we have a sample set of one measly game)
Now, did some of our penalty problem stem from that first practice with the Colts? After which Freddie read the team the riot act about not letting anybody impose their will on you. All along Freddie has stressed that he wants the team to be tough. Perhaps now he has to stress the 'being smart' part of the equation.
He's a 1st year HC. I like his mind-set. Let's give him the chance to go to bed this week and reflect on the game and on things that he might do differently next time. In Other Words, let's give him some time to be a 1st year HC. (or at least until he starts calling for 60 yard FG's with Devon Hester waiting in the end zone like Pettine......or calling TO befitting the opponent like Hue)
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
Yup, you're probably one of those fans. I suppose you remember the sign at the old stadium "Jump Art, and land on Bill". Couldn't hardly wait to run Billy out of town, seems he turned into possibly the GOAT of coaches.
It's way premature to label Freddie a bum, unless you have a functional crystal ball.
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