***Jets VS Browns Gameday Thread***
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Lev Bell best back in the NFL the Jets have nothing no line no qb and he’s doing it. I thought the Steeler system and the guys around him made him better.
Squealers were dumb not paying him
Lev Bell best back in the NFL the Jets have nothing no line no qb and he’s doing it. I thought the Steeler system and the guys around him made him better.
Squealers were dumb not paying him
He turned down 70m. They tried to pay him. He got paid less to be a jet after he told the steelers to pound sand. He bet on himself and lost financially but also gave players more power on negotiations. I have no ill will towards bell. Good dude on and off the field. Brown on the other hand can get maimed by a rabid Yorkie.
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Very early impressions.
Oline looked better. Not great but better. Saw Kush as the tip of the spear in the blocking scheme for Chubb’s td run.
Blocking from the rbs in general was admirable.
I see you Kirksey.
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A relatively ugly win. In one of our better looking current uniforms.
Ugly wins are soooo much better than pretty losses.
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Oh, and the quickness to the line to spike the ball at the tail end of the first half was among the most impressive l’ve ever seen.
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What’s going on with Ward? Has he become gunshy?
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I knew it ! BIG WIN.
ok, maybe I'm wrong here but let me try to get this right...
Garrett gets a penalty for landing on the qb with all his weight. ok.
Later, Baker gets landed on with all the defensive guys weight. NO CALL.
ok....
later, Garrett gets another penalty for landing on the qb with all his weight. ok.
later, Baker gets landed on by one, maybe two guys with all their weight. NO CALL.
what the....
earlier on, Browns db gets penalty for leading with helmet.
later on, Jets db ? leads with helmet big time, hitting Landry in the upper back. NO CALL.
OBJ wears tinted visor. Many plays later, on 3rd down, endzone?
they make OBJ leave the field and put on a clear visor.
what kind of safety issue is that?
They even had two retired officials there at one point, talking about referee "mistakes" ?
am I wrong?
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Myles racking up the yards
Myles racking up the yards
Jurassic Myles. Hey, you're a smart guy. After you get a penalty for the first QB crush, I would hope you wouldn't do it again a second time. WRONG.
Also acquired Minkah Fitzpatrick from MIA via 1st rounder
Go figure that one Vag. Sure, you got a great player- but don't tell me he's the one piece that gets you to the Super Bowl this year. Serious upgrade to the Steelers piss poor secondary? Sure. and if Goodell had a ethical bone in his body, he'd block the Dolphins from essentially dismantling their team. Haven't looked, but I'll bet the odds in Vegas are pretty short now for the 'Fins replicating 0-16.
This might possibly be the least exciting win I've seen in a long while. More questions than answers for me. Still 1-1 is a whole lot better than 0-2.
I'll take a relatively ugly win over an artistic loss anytime. Baker was distinctly "off". Wonder if the wrist is bothering him more than he's letting on.... And Williams more than any D- coordinator in the NFL knew exactly how to mess with Baker.
the question was if the Browns could dominate- and they did. case closed, get ready for the Rams....
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Joe Schobert was a beast tonight..lead by tackling everything that moved in the running game..Wilks left no room for Bell slipping out of the backfield without seeing deuces in coverage schemes..We finally tackled Bell well outside.Hope we might see the same next week.Hammer was 5 of 6 inside the 20..Seibert a perfect night 3-3 fg's//2 for 2 Xps... give your ears to some time of the offensive player pressers.. they know it's not perfect, but it's coming.. heck, it took Bake a LAC & KC beating of last season before we gelled into a offensive threat..OL took a nice step to cleanup before Rams/Ravens..nice road win with only 8 flags on Browns.. if ya remember, we were not going to beat the Saints coming into Cleveland either..well here comes the Rams to C-land..we showed not much in Bake's early releases in the short passing game tonight..Bake can now grip it & rip it with Rams D front coming in.. any given football Sunday ?
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And the Steelers lost yesterday!
Also acquired Minkah Fitzpatrick from MIA via 1st rounder
Also acquired Minkah Fitzpatrick from MIA via 1st rounder
Panic move
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Not a pretty win at all but we did cover the spread. Not to often are we picked to win,
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I'll take the W, but we are a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way from the hype !
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Myles racking up the yards
Jurassic Myles. Hey, you're a smart guy. After you get a penalty for the first QB crush, I would hope you wouldn't do it again a second time. WRONG.
Also acquired Minkah Fitzpatrick from MIA via 1st rounder
Go figure that one Vag. Sure, you got a great player- but don't tell me he's the one piece that gets you to the Super Bowl this year. Serious upgrade to the Steelers piss poor secondary? Sure. and if Goodell had a ethical bone in his body, he'd block the Dolphins from essentially dismantling their team. Haven't looked, but I'll bet the odds in Vegas are pretty short now for the 'Fins replicating 0-16.
This might possibly be the least exciting win I've seen in a long while. More questions than answers for me. Still 1-1 is a whole lot better than 0-2.
I'll take a relatively ugly win over an artistic loss anytime. Baker was distinctly "off". Wonder if the wrist is bothering him more than he's letting on.... And Williams more than any D- coordinator in the NFL knew exactly how to mess with Baker.
the question was if the Browns could dominate- and they did. case closed, get ready for the Rams....
I'll take a relatively ugly win over an artistic loss anytime. Baker was distinctly "off". Wonder if the wrist is bothering him more than he's letting on.... And Williams more than any D- coordinator in the NFL knew exactly how to mess with Baker.
Listen, we won and that's ALL we needed. I said before the game that all the media pundits saying we needed to win pretty were totally wrong because winning in the NFL is just so hard. That being said, we've got problems and here's why:
Baker isn't getting the ball out on time and to the open guy. In fact, it looks like he regressed into the same exact guy he was under Hue and Haley. Holding the ball, taking sacks, and missing high. Baker is NOT comfortable, and this is a bigger problem than people are saying.
Is it time to panic? Hell no, but it's definitely time to sack-up and take a long look in the mirror because our offense is hot garbage right now. We didn't do SHIT except have the best receiver in the game, that's it. We couldn't run the ball, we couldn't hit short passes consistently, and we had absolutely no rhythm. What's even more concerning is that Baker does NOT want to throw over the middle, and that's crushing us. He had people open multiple times over the middle throughout the game, but he didn't cut it loose.
How do we fix this? I dunno, I'm not that smart. All I know is we gots to fix some crap right the heck now because our next 5 oppenents are somehow effing 10-0. Also, I'm even MORE concerned about Baker's tendency to take unnecessary risks. He did it before halftime by throwing into double coverage (something he did several times last year) and he forced the ball to OBJ on his pick when he had Chubb WIDE OPEN in the flat for 10 yards! How does he miss that?
Listen, I'm ECSTATIC we won, but I also miss the offense I saw last year. We don't get to play the Jets' offense every week, so we're going to need more 3rd downs and less FG's. It's early, but it's getting late quickly.
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I'll take a relatively ugly win over an artistic loss anytime. Baker was distinctly "off". Wonder if the wrist is bothering him more than he's letting on.... And Williams more than any D- coordinator in the NFL knew exactly how to mess with Baker.
Listen, we won and that's ALL we needed. I said before the game that all the media pundits saying we needed to win pretty were totally wrong because winning in the NFL is just so hard. That being said, we've got problems and here's why:
Baker isn't getting the ball out on time and to the open guy. In fact, it looks like he regressed into the same exact guy he was under Hue and Haley. Holding the ball, taking sacks, and missing high. Baker is NOT comfortable, and this is a bigger problem than people are saying.
Is it time to panic? Hell no, but it's definitely time to sack-up and take a long look in the mirror because our offense is hot garbage right now. We didn't do SHIT except have the best receiver in the game, that's it. We couldn't run the ball, we couldn't hit short passes consistently, and we had absolutely no rhythm. What's even more concerning is that Baker does NOT want to throw over the middle, and that's crushing us. He had people open multiple times over the middle throughout the game, but he didn't cut it loose.
How do we fix this? I dunno, I'm not that smart. All I know is we gots to fix some crap right the heck now because our next 5 oppenents are somehow effing 10-0. Also, I'm even MORE concerned about Baker's tendency to take unnecessary risks. He did it before halftime by throwing into double coverage (something he did several times last year) and he forced the ball to OBJ on his pick when he had Chubb WIDE OPEN in the flat for 10 yards! How does he miss that?
Listen, I'm ECSTATIC we won, but I also miss the offense I saw last year. We don't get to play the Jets' offense every week, so we're going to need more 3rd downs and less FG's. It's early, but it's getting late quickly.
Listen, we won and that's ALL we needed. I said before the game that all the media pundits saying we needed to win pretty were totally wrong because winning in the NFL is just so hard. That being said, we've got problems and here's why:
Baker isn't getting the ball out on time and to the open guy. In fact, it looks like he regressed into the same exact guy he was under Hue and Haley. Holding the ball, taking sacks, and missing high. Baker is NOT comfortable, and this is a bigger problem than people are saying.
Is it time to panic? Hell no, but it's definitely time to sack-up and take a long look in the mirror because our offense is hot garbage right now. We didn't do SHIT except have the best receiver in the game, that's it. We couldn't run the ball, we couldn't hit short passes consistently, and we had absolutely no rhythm. What's even more concerning is that Baker does NOT want to throw over the middle, and that's crushing us. He had people open multiple times over the middle throughout the game, but he didn't cut it loose.
How do we fix this? I dunno, I'm not that smart. All I know is we gots to fix some crap right the heck now because our next 5 oppenents are somehow effing 10-0. Also, I'm even MORE concerned about Baker's tendency to take unnecessary risks. He did it before halftime by throwing into double coverage (something he did several times last year) and he forced the ball to OBJ on his pick when he had Chubb WIDE OPEN in the flat for 10 yards! How does he miss that?
Listen, I'm ECSTATIC we won, but I also miss the offense I saw last year. We don't get to play the Jets' offense every week, so we're going to need more 3rd downs and less FG's. It's early, but it's getting late quickly.
I agree here. It’s fixable and it’s between the ears. You fix this by simplifying things. We set up plays so well last year and took a few shots down the field. This year you can flip the script. It appears they’ve given baker leeway to audible as multiple times he changed plays at the LOS. Do we need to tone this down?
Looks like Baker is a rhythm passer. Get it going early with quick passes. We have one of the best possession WRs in the game and one of the best YAC WR in the game. Get it out early!!!!
You also showcase the run- we don’t do that any longer. It always helps to have that security blanket TE over the Middle but NJoku still drops the ball and is off the field more than he plays.
some of you folks are all over the offensive line and last night especially Baker had all day, and even last week he had plenty of time.
Defense is light years better too.
our kicker doesn’t stink.
things don’t appear as bad as they are-subtle changes and the light goes off and this thing really takes off
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